- Location
- United States
@Academia Nut do the libraries we build trigger the canal bonus?
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
They never take into account incoming, only outgoing due to the riskiness of admin rolls. Same thing as the Baby Boom on the last turn of the Tax Crisis.
maximillian
Civilised Sheep
- Location
- Ranch
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] Black Soil
[X] [Secondary] Black Soil
[X] [Secondary] Black Soil x2
[X] [Main] Black Soil
[X] [Secondary] Black Soil
[X] [Secondary] Black Soil x2
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
@Academia Nut Does Temple provide mysticism in addition to religious authority?
If it doesn't their only choices for mysticism gain are study stars and a Main settlement action which will found a new holy site. In such a case they will not increase econ. Well, 1 secondary might, which is still 2 Econ.
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keenscythe
No longer NEET
- Location
- WA, USA
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] Grand Palace
[X] [Secondary] New Trails
[X] [Secondary] New Trails x2
[X] [Main] Grand Palace
[X] [Secondary] New Trails
[X] [Secondary] New Trails x2
[X] [Value] Do not spread
[X] [Main] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - South-Eastern Redhills
[X] [Main] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - South-Eastern Redhills
- Location
- Illinois
They'll take a stability and legitimacy hit if they don't try to retake hatriver, so that would be pretty unlikely.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
deps on martial
- Location
- Huezil
[x] [Value] Do not spread
[X] [Main] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
I'm drunk so trusting @BungieONI
[X] [Main] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
I'm drunk so trusting @BungieONI
- Location
- his hidden lair
It's not happening. We need to horribly murder him and then proceed to maim the corpse so badly the Hatters collapse again.
And then we simultaneously have to ensure the Hatters can't threaten the HK's western while ensuring we gobble up them up while the HK's bogged down against the Xoh.
In other words- it's time to militarily expand whether the thread likes it or not.
[X] [Value] Do not spread
[X] [Main] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - South-Eastern Redhills
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] The Census
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - South-eastern Redhills
[X] [Main] The Census
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - South-eastern Redhills
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Economy 4 [-1+4]->1 [-1+4]
-Main Expand Warriors -2
-Military losses -1
Econ Expansion 7 [+1-4]->9 [+1-4]
-Main Expand Warriors +1
-Military losses +1
Pretty much expected
Martial 6 (+1) {7}->9 (+1) {9}
-Expand Warriors +3
-Military losses -1
-War Mission cashout +1
Looks about right?
Religious Authority 1->2
-??? +1
Library boosted Religious Authority? Or does it just climb over time from the Temple?
Mysticism 5 (+1) [+1]->6 [+1]
-Library cashout +1
Nothing to see here
Prestige 19->20
-Hero Kill +1
Woo! New Periphery slot.
Hathatyn are back in the Dye, Wine, Gold and Silver games.
No change otherwise.
Proto-phalanx unlocked.
We're basically reenacting the Viking strategy. Ship in large numbers of dudes, form shieldwall, then unleash the chariots to do an hammer and anvil.
Probably not make the associations even MORE factionalized. Heroes are nice but the system is better
At 3 libraries, Blackbirds and Carrion Eaters are basically free.
Very useful for managing our increased population all around, and we can finish it by next turn.
We cannot currently afford any other megaprojects.
-Main Expand Warriors -2
-Military losses -1
Econ Expansion 7 [+1-4]->9 [+1-4]
-Main Expand Warriors +1
-Military losses +1
Pretty much expected
Martial 6 (+1) {7}->9 (+1) {9}
-Expand Warriors +3
-Military losses -1
-War Mission cashout +1
Looks about right?
Religious Authority 1->2
-??? +1
Library boosted Religious Authority? Or does it just climb over time from the Temple?
Mysticism 5 (+1) [+1]->6 [+1]
-Library cashout +1
Nothing to see here
Prestige 19->20
-Hero Kill +1
Woo! New Periphery slot.
Trade Status
| Resource | Status | Rivals |
| Luxuries | ||
| Fine Pottery | Minor | Xohyssiri |
| Fine Dye | Dominating | Hathatyn |
| Fine Textiles | None | Xohyssiri, Swamp Folk |
| Glass | Marginal | Xohyssiri |
| Gold | Lesser trading | Hathatyn, Metal Workers |
| Silver | Leading | Hath, MW, Xoh |
| Salt | Dominating | None |
| Wine | Leading | Hath |
| Strategic | ||
| Copper | Significant | Hath, Highlanders, Thunder Horse, MW |
| Bronze | None | Non-traded |
| Tin | None | MW (in), TH (in), Hath (in), HK (in) |
| Iron | Non-traded dominant | None |
| Cultural | ||
| Pilgrimage | Significant | Thunder Speakers, Xoh |
No change otherwise.
Basically makes things more stable, but we're going to want to keep Econ high...which is basically impossible since Econ goes ups and downs all the time.
Census! Most excellent for managing people!
And we have formation fighting and shieldwalls! Those are nasty as hell.
Proto-phalanx unlocked.
Nomads: "Wtf hax, how did they get here?!"
We're basically reenacting the Viking strategy. Ship in large numbers of dudes, form shieldwall, then unleash the chariots to do an hammer and anvil.
Die Forgotten!
We noticed this value in the Stallion Tribes some time ago. It was contributing to the nepotism and noble family problems.
Probably not make the associations even MORE factionalized. Heroes are nice but the system is better
Great they'll be back.
With bronze. They have copperworkers to the north.
Ah yeah, THAT is the chokepoint for bronze. There just isn't much Tin around.
Highlanders maintained the tarpit for now. Lets hope it sticks.
We'd need this to refuel the slots now. Getting kind of tight with the baby boom.
Desired, but this king isn't very good at it.
Libraries grant Mysticism now, and they stack for Mysticism refund!
At 3 libraries, Blackbirds and Carrion Eaters are basically free.
Under current Policy + Main, the Census will cost 6 Mysticism(taking us temporarily to 0), and refund 3 Mysticism next turn, The Provinces will then expand economy/Study Stars to make up.
Very useful for managing our increased population all around, and we can finish it by next turn.
Under current Policy, we'd spend 4 Art and 4 Mysticism, refunding 4 Mysticism next turn. No actions wasted.
We cannot currently afford any other megaprojects.
That's a good point, they might combine with the [Secondary] New Settlement to make it into a [Main]. Still leaves an Expand Economy.
Not under my plan unless it gives +7 econ slots (previous ones gave ~+4 IIRC)
Currently at:
Econ Expansion 9
-4 from Baby Boom
-2 from province actions (minimum)
+1 from True City
Leaves it at 5, and lets us have up to +6 econ slots and still keep the city.
[Main] The Census
[Secondary] Enforce Justice
[Secondary] New Settlement - south-eastern Redhills
Provinces:
[Main] Megaproject (The Law)
[Secondary] Study Stars
[Secondary] Combine with king's New Settlement
[Secondary] Expand Economy
- Location
- Austria
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
I am not sure it will encourage nepotism to a significant degree, so it's probably worth it.
Plus, Honourable Death is Tier 1 value, so it's worth evolving.
As for other actions...well, we need Stability and to recover economy.
@Academia Nut , would sending Salt Gift to Metal Workers help them recover?
Would sending it to Highlanders help them in their war?
[X] [Main] Restore Order
[X] [Secondary] Proclaim Glory
[X] [Secondary] Change Policy - Balanced
I am not sure it will encourage nepotism to a significant degree, so it's probably worth it.
Plus, Honourable Death is Tier 1 value, so it's worth evolving.
As for other actions...well, we need Stability and to recover economy.
@Academia Nut , would sending Salt Gift to Metal Workers help them recover?
Would sending it to Highlanders help them in their war?
NewAgeOfPower
Engineering Pornagrapher Extraordinaire
- Location
- An Certain Hive of Scum & Villainy, known as NYC
Holy shit. It's time to go full Soviet Russia, boys.
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
While it has some non-trivial downsides, I am getting the feeling we're approaching the point where any lack of a Heroic leader will condemn us to a spiral of collapse.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
My calculus is like this: 4 province actions: 1 main via law = 3, 1 main settlement = 1, 1 action = study stars.
For later reference, our potential mysticism-gaining actions:
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