Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
Why? By the time the March will be of any use, the attack will have already happened or not happened at all (cause the hero Died of old age)
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Illinois
Ouch, that... yeah.
At Econ 1 this is would bring us to -2. That's going to hurt.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
"enraged nomad hero" is recruiting to the north. I'd say we should found a March now so that the March can build up a protected flank.
In which sense? Martial or Economic?
Eh... is it really likely that he'll attack next turn? I might change my mind then, but idk.
Note that they might study our iron if they got some.
Voted for it based on assumed 3 econ, cus that's what the front page was labeled at.
We probably shouldn't do Grand Palace, either.
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Spectrum
Tell me a secret~
- Location
- Behind you~
They can take these kinds of actions anyway with Balanced and we can manage it directly ourselves. The nomad hero may or may not be dead by the time they come around for another swing anyway, same as the Hath hero.
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- Location
- Illinois
That was last turn's stats. We're at 1 econ now, which is going to make things pretty difficult down south.
Pretty sure the Hathatyn are attacking this turn.
Ok, here's what I'm thinking:
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] The Census
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - south-eastern Redhills
We're doing well enough that we can stay on Megaproject Support, but we have no econ to spend on it. That leaves only The Games and The Census... and The Census sounds really useful for admin work and doesn't cost any econ at all.
New Settlement to give us a bit of econ. Enforce to recover lost centralization and stability.
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] The Census
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - south-eastern Redhills
We're doing well enough that we can stay on Megaproject Support, but we have no econ to spend on it. That leaves only The Games and The Census... and The Census sounds really useful for admin work and doesn't cost any econ at all.
New Settlement to give us a bit of econ. Enforce to recover lost centralization and stability.
- Location
- his hidden lair
Yeah no. Building the March is a bad idea right now. With the Hatters being on the absolute opposite side of said March are best option is to get our provinces in offensive, rebuild our Econ and turn our plows into swords.
Honestly, leaving our provinces to rebuild all our econ isn't a bad idea and then relying on the mid-turn policy switch because it get's us economic breathing room and a ton of martial.
Ghostdevil
The Devil of Ghosts
- Location
- United States
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] The Census
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - south-eastern Redhills
Like it
[X] [Main] The Census
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] New Settlement - south-eastern Redhills
Like it
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Edit: Forgot Diff Checkers:
Diff Checker (Actions)
Diff Checker (Civ Sheet)
Econ 4 -> 1...Wait, what? Did we lose 3 econ from the war mission, but only 1 martial??? Even with our new trait?
Econ Expansion 7 -> 9
Hmm...i think that action was technically Main Expand Warriors + secondary expand econ, so:
7 + 1 (Warriors) - 2 (Expand Econ) + 3 (Losses to war) = 9?
Fake edit: AN has clarified: it was just a regular expand warriors, complete with normal -2 econ loss despite not saying it...
So:
Econ 4 - 2 (Warriors) - 1 (War mission econ loss) = 1
Econ Expansion 7 -> 9
7 + 1 (Warriors) + 1 (War mission losses)
Martial 6 {7} -> 9 {9}
6 + 3 (Main warriors) - 1 (War mission losses)
Someone suggested this comes from having 20 prestige?
As expected
Prestige 19 -> 20
From awesome hero kill!
Awesome! Means we need to stay at high econ during war... (Also, surprisingly no change to fluff?)
Diff Checker (Actions)
Diff Checker (Civ Sheet)
Diplo 9 -> 9, the +4 isn't until right after this vote.
Econ Expansion 7 -> 9
Hmm...i think that action was technically Main Expand Warriors + secondary expand econ, so:
7 + 1 (Warriors) - 2 (Expand Econ) + 3 (Losses to war) = 9?
Fake edit: AN has clarified: it was just a regular expand warriors, complete with normal -2 econ loss despite not saying it...
So:
Econ 4 - 2 (Warriors) - 1 (War mission econ loss) = 1
Econ Expansion 7 -> 9
7 + 1 (Warriors) + 1 (War mission losses)
Martial 6 {7} -> 9 {9}
6 + 3 (Main warriors) - 1 (War mission losses)
Religious Authority 1 -> 2:
Someone suggested this comes from having 20 prestige?
Mysticism 5 (+1) -> 6
As expected
Prestige 19 -> 20
From awesome hero kill!
Only change: Gold Minor Trading -> Lesser Trading, presumably from increased MW ties.
New military tech!
New admin tech, from the library
Prestige 20 gives another periphery slot...we're building quite a lot of slots here...
Awesome! Means we need to stay at high econ during war... (Also, surprisingly no change to fluff?)
Not quite spear wall yet, but "Close Formation"!
Fuck yeah! Was this a crit success, or "just" a good success?
Huh...heroes are good, and trait evolution is good, and increased ties with the marches is good, but...will this make nepotism worse? Is this one of those times AN is going to be shocked we didn't take a good option?
Hmm...
Eeesh, let's hope the highlander hero king is good at his job...
New megaproject!!! Damn i want to do this, why must we have other priorities...
New extended project. Not as good as i'd hoped, but having three of them would be nice in the long run...
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- Location
- Australia
I'm not drunk.
FUCK THE NOMADS!
- Location
- Illinois
New megaproject.
AKA "we know where you all live, so pay your taxes"
- Location
- his hidden lair
Again, what part of two front war that's liable to escalate indicates we can afford to burn our already damaged economy and important actions away right now?
We already established the bad precedent that wonder whoring is at least as important as fighting off nomad invasions- let's not play with the idiot ball too much.
We need to crush the Hatters here, because otherwise the only thing that keeps the Xoh empire from eyeing the advanced and wealthy state of the Ymaryn is locked into two-fronts.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
- Location
- ꙮ
Link is in here. Econ @ 4; idr last turn's econ, was it 4? Yeah, RA @ 1 probably outdated
mbIt says "eventually" and they're now a strong collective with a name (HR, fancy), so they can probably afford to take longer if they can't break through the HK easily.
Census costs 2 mysticism per action, we have... 6.
1 core action, 2 main province actions (1 law main, 1 true main) = 3 x 2 = 6 = 0. This still leaves us with 1 secondary which probably goes to a mysticism gaining action, most likely study stars.
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- Location
- Simi Valley, CA, United States
[X] [Value] Spread value (+Hero Generation)
[X] [Main] Integrate March - Stallion Tribes
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy
We need Econ and Stability.
As for the Integrate March I figured it was about time we did that - I figured there'd be some synergy with spreading values and it may boost the Census megaproject if we do it later.
[X] [Main] Integrate March - Stallion Tribes
[X] [Secondary] Enforce Justice
[X] [Secondary] Expand Economy
We need Econ and Stability.
As for the Integrate March I figured it was about time we did that - I figured there'd be some synergy with spreading values and it may boost the Census megaproject if we do it later.
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Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
We'd need a second library even after that; its like the salterns, only ever 2 extra libraries gives us an extra.
- Location
- Illinois
It all depends on whether the HK has to pull back or not. I'm not willing to bet on the HK being able to fight a 2 front war, even with a heroic king.
- Location
- Australia
You need to specify which March you're integrating. We have two.
- Pronouns
- They/Them
So, no actions above 1 econ.
First of all, we need to restore our stability. It may prove necessary to kick a few war actions in our immediate future.
I'm thinking Main Restore Order, Secondary Proclaim Glory, Policy Change - Balanced. If we get hit again, we should get the chance to swap to offense, and this time we take it because we're not in the middle of a megaproject?
First of all, we need to restore our stability. It may prove necessary to kick a few war actions in our immediate future.
I'm thinking Main Restore Order, Secondary Proclaim Glory, Policy Change - Balanced. If we get hit again, we should get the chance to swap to offense, and this time we take it because we're not in the middle of a megaproject?