It has been mentioned several time already, yes. That's part of the reason why Saltern is doing so well.
Paths of Civilization
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redzonejoe
Vaguely Pastafarian
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Can econ even get that high? wasn't there a limit? I probably missed something.
[X] [CA] Attempt to take control of adjacent villages (-2 Stability, chance of further loss, -2 Diplomacy, unknowable chance of war with the Hathatyn, +8-10 Econ, +4 Econ Expansion)
[X] [Boats] Size
[X] [Infra] Main Saltern Construction
So, not that I want to do this at all, but, if we were to take the econ expanding options for the boats and the infrastructure votes, would we enter the war with the Hathatyn with over 20 martial? Because that would be kind of hilarious.
[X] [Boats] Size
[X] [Infra] Main Saltern Construction
So, not that I want to do this at all, but, if we were to take the econ expanding options for the boats and the infrastructure votes, would we enter the war with the Hathatyn with over 20 martial? Because that would be kind of hilarious.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
It'll overflow into other stats, and when those stats max, it'll eventually overflow into Martial.
Carrnage
Human
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Is it incredibly rare for a shaman to become king or heir?
BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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It can technically go that high for a second. Then overflow drains it out into other stats, but more than likely we are going to get +1 or +3 overflow.
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We don't really need more portable boats. The current ones do just fine in getting to the settlements. Bigger boats can carry more people and resources.
River is large near the Stallions.
For the provinces, more boats work. They don't need to be smaller.
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We can't go above 14 Econ. The 1 to 3 Econ above 14 will overflow into Diplomacy (which will be at 12 due to the cost of eating the villages) and then, if we get the full econ benefits of said eating, the last 1 Econ will overflow into Mysticism, which is at 12 and would therefore go to 13. We'd be EXTREMELY close to overflow on ALL of our resources, which would then overflow into Martial, but we wouldn't be there yet. Thus a high cost plan for next turn (if we get a choice next turn) makes sense, to give us a little more breathing room.
We need bigger boats in order to transport warriors and supplies to our marches better. Currently our people struggle to bring all the things needed to supply them because our ships are too small to carry everything at once.
BungieONI
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Basically what I meant, wasn't deliberately marking the overflow things so yeah...
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I figured that out from your later post, but I hadn't read it at the time I posted
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- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
AH HAH!!! I finally figured out how the Spirit Talkers figured out that there would be a drought in advance!
OUR ENTIRE CIVILIZATION(and the lowlands too!!!) is in the weather system created by this volcano!
They had been taking Study Stars continuously for a really long time and had figured out that there was an entirely regular disruption to the regional weather patterns, presumably timed with somewhat regular volcanic eruptions.(or they knew it was timed to a certain amount after they got word of the smoke from the ground, or earth shaking)
With this new knowledge we should place a higher priority on the dam and colonizing the northern river, as both of those things would help with the food disruption caused by that kind of weather system.(though the north river would also get raided en mass during that time)
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BungieONI
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This is why I always click the "there are more posts" thing that crops up when you are typing if someone posts more. Let's me keep up while typing.I figured that out from your later post, but I hadn't read it at the time I posted
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- United States
Since the saltern would bring us to 4/6 for its completion, it would only need a secondary action to finish it. I don't think we can afford it however, as it gives bonus diplo when it finishes.
I suggest we establish a trading post (costing 5 diplo, 2 econ, and 2 martial) so we can get some breathing room from our maxed stats.
I suggest we establish a trading post (costing 5 diplo, 2 econ, and 2 martial) so we can get some breathing room from our maxed stats.
Ancient Scholar
Amateur Editor/Beta
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I'm wondering if we will get another interlude again or maybe a sort of in depth infodump on the state of our lands and culture.
Like how are the Sacred Forests after all this time?
How easily to people integrate and are we bilingual?
From the perspective of our neighbors we seem mysterious and rich and most of our people enjoy safety and comfort aside from social issues.
When will we invent soap?
Like how are the Sacred Forests after all this time?
How easily to people integrate and are we bilingual?
From the perspective of our neighbors we seem mysterious and rich and most of our people enjoy safety and comfort aside from social issues.
When will we invent soap?
BungieONI
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We need niter(saltpeter) first. Or come up with ash based soaps I think.
E: If you want more info on how we live and stuff go look at the Informational tab of Threadmarks.
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- USA
If we have control of the turn, and we aren't at war, my idea would be to do
Main Trading Post
Secondary Switch Megaproject Support
Secondary Saltern
This is because the Law would be wasted on Balanced; we don't want, need, or have the Econ slots for Expand Econ right now. We would generate something like 6 or 7 Econ slots, and spend (assuming the provinces do 3 Main Grand Temple actions) 7 Econ, 3 Art, and 5 Diplo, giving us the breathing room as you say, as well as spend 2 Martial, so we don't have to worry about high econ getting us over the cap anymore. We'd still have 7 (-1) Econ, 11 Art, 8 or 9 (+1) Diplo, and 12 or 13 (-1) Mysticism, so it's not like we'd be paupers either. Our Martial would be 8{10}, still rather high.
It would also play well to our new Hero's strengths, Admin and Diplomacy.
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If we end up at war and smack them around enough wouldn't they be the periphery state? That is what happened to the TS and DP from my understanding.
Umi-san
Procrastinating.
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If we smack all of the hathatyn around yes; if we just intake these newbies, no. Which might let us make a March or Colony after. But yeah, I was basically thinking they'd eventually become a peripheral state.
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- United States
IIRC the hero is still just an heir, so we have about 1 turn before a midturn election.
I doubt the Hathatyn war (if it happens) will be anywhere near an issue, as we've been rebuffing their attacks without a single dedicated action. There's also the fact that they're in total unadulterated chaos and have just lost a fuck ton of their people (from our refugee suction), so they'll be even more disorganized and weak than normal.
Definitely supporting the action plan, though i'm concerned nobody will switch policies.
Had a large number of posts I was going to respond to. Then as I read others beat me to it, so...
[X] [CA] Accept those who come to the People (Chance of Stability loss, +2 Econ)
[X] [Law] Attempt to close off both practices
[X] [Boats] Portability
[X] [Infra] Main Saltern Construction
We're effectively getting an extra action every mid turn now, interestingly enough. I wonder if this is AN slowly sneaking in shorter turns?
As for the vote, I just want that golden age now. Though, since war seems possible, I'm voting for portability. It's not like we aren't going to build more docks in the future.
Also, I really hope that our admin hero will take over next turn, because I do not want to deal with all of this fall out. I also hope the 'chance of stability loss' is considered an admin roll as we re-organize things to stop stability from dropping too fast. It would also be nice if our diplo hero accidentally vassalizes some of our neighbors with this action. Anyways, speaking of which...
@Academia Nut Please carry the voice of this spirit to the heir! "Hey, looks like a potential war is going to happen soon, but if you work at it you can head it off and maybe even gain some more territory than otherwise would, perhaps make the guys tributaries or fall under the people's protection. Don't overextend yourself though. Also, try increasing the confidence of the people, if you can manage it some good things will probably come from it. Also keep an eye on the warriors, getting to be a lot of them and when that happens they tend to want to solve problems, so they'll look for problems that might not exist to try and solve. Gaining some dominance in trade would probably be good too, and if you can try to keep the study stars thing going. It might take awhile, like beyond your lifetime, but there are some interesting secrets you'll get if you study them carefully enough without stopping. It's not urgent though, we'll try to guide the people to get those things anyways. Side Note: The real story behind Crow is hilarious, and we're constantly laughing at how you all have interpreted it."
[X] [CA] Accept those who come to the People (Chance of Stability loss, +2 Econ)
[X] [Law] Attempt to close off both practices
[X] [Boats] Portability
[X] [Infra] Main Saltern Construction
We're effectively getting an extra action every mid turn now, interestingly enough. I wonder if this is AN slowly sneaking in shorter turns?
As for the vote, I just want that golden age now.
Though, since war seems possible, I'm voting for portability. It's not like we aren't going to build more docks in the future.Also, I really hope that our admin hero will take over next turn, because I do not want to deal with all of this fall out. I also hope the 'chance of stability loss' is considered an admin roll as we re-organize things to stop stability from dropping too fast. It would also be nice if our diplo hero accidentally vassalizes some of our neighbors with this action. Anyways, speaking of which...
@Academia Nut Please carry the voice of this spirit to the heir! "Hey, looks like a potential war is going to happen soon, but if you work at it you can head it off and maybe even gain some more territory than otherwise would, perhaps make the guys tributaries or fall under the people's protection. Don't overextend yourself though. Also, try increasing the confidence of the people, if you can manage it some good things will probably come from it. Also keep an eye on the warriors, getting to be a lot of them and when that happens they tend to want to solve problems, so they'll look for problems that might not exist to try and solve. Gaining some dominance in trade would probably be good too, and if you can try to keep the study stars thing going. It might take awhile, like beyond your lifetime, but there are some interesting secrets you'll get if you study them carefully enough without stopping. It's not urgent though, we'll try to guide the people to get those things anyways. Side Note: The real story behind Crow is hilarious, and we're constantly laughing at how you all have interpreted it."
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I am pretty sure we get immigrants constantly and have a lot of experience and patience in integrating them. So we would have a supply of foreign language speakers who can speak the immigrant's language.
The Ymaryn language is also stealing words from the surrounding region for centuries if not thousand of years. So, it's like Super English.
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@Academia Nut Is it just an error, or do our Trading Posts no produce econ even though we have iron tools?
Leaving a saltern at 4/6 doesn't seem like the People to me. Leaving a job half done is awful.