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Academia Nut said:
And this appears to be the option we are going for!

[x][CA] Xohyssiri
[x][Clan] Roll back, institute occupational administration within Valleyhome (Possibility of stability loss)
[x][Main] Great Temple
[x][Secondary] Build Vineyard
[x][Secondary] Enforce Justice
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Wow, the clan vote is one of the closer ones i can remember recently; 41 to 38 if i read the tally right
 
ctulhuslp said:
My bad, thanks for pointing it out.
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Thank you for the consideration.

As I've said, it's possible to keep True City up for a turn of pure megaproject focus, and I'd like to actually do that, but it requires some prep work, and it's only practical for one turn at a time for econ-expending megaprojects and may commit our free secondary action to Expand Econ (or possibly Expand Forest, depending). It's trying to force-chain several megaprojects in a row that's ticking me off.

Academia Nut said:
Black Soil - Production is now regular and huge amounts of trash are turned to black soil every year, but there's always room for more production [Shapers] [King]
* S: -1 Econ, +1 Econ next turn, additional effects
* M: +1 Econ, additional effects
* used 2 times
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Academia Nut said:
Expand Forests - The People have knowledge of how to regrow and repair forests, which extends to bringing them to places they have never been, with considerable effort. With charcoal now in higher demand, can also provide a sustainable supply (3/4 currently locked up)
* S: -1 Econ, -1 Econ Expansion, grows forest, +1 Econ next turn if in settled territory and controlled
* M: -1 Econ, -1 Econ Expansion, grows forest, +2 Econ next turn if in settled and controlled territory
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Quick check here, Academia Nut - am I correct in assuming that sources of Econ only cost Econ Expansion when they say they do?
So Expand Forest only uses one slot no matter how much econ we get out of it, and Black Soil doesn't use up a slot at all?
 
ctulhuslp said:
I would say I am scared, but, well, it's pretty much normal here; especially now with possibly ending up on -1 Stability after the current vote, which would be...bad.

Also, why no love for the Megaproject Support? :( We need 3, maybe up to 5 Wonders as soon as we can. Without this policy, it will take literally....up to 500 years to do all of them, assuming no emergency happens?
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I'm totally on board with switching to Megaproject Support at some point soon, but right now too many other things need to get done. This turn, for example, it makes sense to let the provinces do Study Stars - it's at 3/4 uses in a row, and remember it's gotten us some very good things before. And as others have said, we just don't have the econ to do all megaprojects in a row. I'd possibly support going to Megaproject support next turn if our stability is back to non-negative, but I'd probably only want to be on there to finish the Grand Temple and then the Library. Past that, too many things will probably need to be done.

BungieONI said:
Oh. Well in that case provinces on Megasupport will still do Expand Econ if we start getting low. So something like Expand Econ (Main via Law), Megaproject Main(2 Secondaries), Secondary to do something else with.
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The Law will ONLY double Megaproject things during Megaproject support. The only way to have the Law double Expand Econ is to be on Balanced Support.
 
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BungieONI said:
Definition of fatalism
  1. : a doctrine that events are fixed in advance so that human beings are powerless to change them; also : a belief in or attitude determined by this doctrine fatalism that regards social problems as simply inevitable
fatalist

play\ˈfā-tə-list\ noun
fatalistic

play\ˌfā-tə-ˈli-stik\ adjective
fatalistically

play\ˌfā-tə-ˈli-sti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb

What I see that out look DocMatoi has is anti-nihilist.

nihilism

noun
1.
total rejection of established laws and institutions.
2.
anarchy, terrorism, or other revolutionary activity.
3.
total and absolute destructiveness, especially toward the world at largeand including oneself:
the power-mad nihilism that marked Hitler's last years.

4.
Philosophy.
  1. an extreme form of skepticism: the denial of all real existence orthe possibility of an objective basis for truth.
  2. nothingness or nonexistence.
5.
(sometimes initial capital letter) the principles of a Russianrevolutionary group, active in the latter half of the 19th century,holding that existing social and political institutions must be destroyedin order to clear the way for a new state of society and employingextreme measures, including terrorism and assassination.
6.
annihilation of the self, or the individual consciousness, especially as anaspect of mystical experience.

Antinihilism I see as taking this and say if it has no meaning why not make it all around better?
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...........
Am not a spokesman for the Oxford dictionary. Literal dictionary use of words is hell for me. (where am from language has become quite flexible, or in the words of my language teacher in elementary:
"we butcherd the language ")
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As for nihilism and Fatalism, both are the death of self.

To believe that man does not have a measure of control over his fate, is to justify or surrender to anything and everything.

To believe that all that is, is but arbitrary suffering and horror , is to also to justify and surrender to anything and everything.
 
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tryrar said:
.......we did what now? When did this happen?!
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Here. The start of the stupid silliness.

Omegahugger said:
Which logically means that if an Ymaryn wrote Naruto, NarutoXSasuke would be canon.

That is the only possible conclusion and I refuse to entertain other ideas.


Actually, if Crow is closest to a Demon, wouldn't he then also be capable of doing stuff like inhabiting empty corpses and parading them around to spread wisdom.

Oh, won't that be fun if it ever happens. Or if we just think it does, that has the same effect.
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Of course @Omegahugger started it.
 
maximillian said:
As for nihilism and Fatalism, both are the death of self.

To believe that man does not have a measure of control of his fate, is to justify or surrender to anything and everything.

To believe that all that is, is but arbitrary suffering and horror , is to also to justify and surrender to anything and everything.
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I actually totally agree about these, and was not disputing your correct comment that Fatalism is the death of self. :p

I was simply clarifying on what I thought DocMactoi's comment fit as, which was antinihilist, instead of fatalism.
 
tryrar said:
..........why am I surprised that I'm surprised at that? Also, NaruHina for life!(Was pretty smug at the ending of the manga :p )
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I honestly wanted Sasuke and Naruto to die together or something, NaruHina and SasuSaku are cute and the children are even cuter! OT3 was SasuSakuNaru though. Team 7 a great! Best girl! -cough- hinata my waifu hands off -cough-
 
Lilithium said:
Shit I so occupied by talking and rp stuff that I fucking FORGOT TO VOTE
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ᚤ̴̵̺̗͎̝͈͜͞ᚤᚡ҉͏̜̻̪͓̥̫̳͉̯̮̯̹̮̮͚̪͕̥͘ᚡᚤ͏̧̡̖̪̯͈͙̹̼̤̯̫͍̫̝̠̮̯̠̠̺ᚥ҉҉̦̹̝͔̞͙̱̯͉̬̥̰͡ᚤ​ᚥ ̵̴̭͚̜̞̖́͜͠ᚮ̵̡͎̩̬̫̲̳̻͍͉̰̫̩̮͎͟͡ͅᚮ ᚮ ̵̨̛̘̤͚̫͎̀ᚯ̶̸͔͚̩͈̥̫͉̼͉͓̙̹̻̤̀͜ᚯ​ᚫ ᚫ̛̩̹͚̗͓̣̗͚͕̟͔̙͓̣̳̹̱͜͝ ᚤ̧͎̙̖̠̮̜̖̤͚̮̮̯̼̯̩͎ͦ͆̊̊ͣͪ̃͗͊ͮ́͘̕͟ͅͅᚡ̧̫̗͈̮̣͇̖̻ͬ̔ͣͫ͂͋͐̾̏̄͜͟͡ᚯ​ᚫᚤ̶̷̬̳̜̩͇̖̹̟̮̯̩͔ͬͤ̋́̍̓ͣ̏ͦ̓͊ͪͅͅᚥ̱̜̣̹̝͈̯̣̾͋ͩ̽ͫ̎̇͊ͫͩ͌͌ͨ͋̂͂̿͢ ̝͚͙̘̬̥̱̫͈̭̏̋ͣ͛͗͜͝ᚮ̳͎̭͙̟͙̦̜͙͚͔̼ͤ́͂̒ͯ̿ͬ̂ͫ̊ͮ̏̌͂́̚̕ ̴̸̛͎̞̫̣̜̝͍̪̱̻͔͗̈͂̀ͪ͗͛ͥ̍̓ͧ̀ͩ͆̆̚ᚥ҉҉̦̹̝͔̞͙̱̯͉̬̥̰͡ᚤ​ᚥᚯ̓͊ͭ̿̌ͤ͗ͨ̊͛̀҉̷̢̰̳̹̤̤͙̪̺̰͙͓̠͓̲̪̫͘ᚫ̵ͮ̅͆ͯ̓̈́̐͗͌͋͊͊͋̅͘҉̧̼̤͙̟̻̙̘̫̘͉̘̼̻̼̝̟͓͓̮
 
tryrar said:
I'm pretty sure plenty voting for occupational wouldn't have minded if geographical had won instead.
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Speaking as someone who voted for geographical, I don't think getting guilds is a disaster. Our civ would have had to find out about them and the trouble they cause sooner or later regardless.

I just think they'll be a distraction when there's a bunch of stuff we'd really rather be doing.
 
Lailoken said:
ᚤ̴̵̺̗͎̝͈͜͞ᚤᚡ҉͏̜̻̪͓̥̫̳͉̯̮̯̹̮̮͚̪͕̥͘ᚡᚤ͏̧̡̖̪̯͈͙̹̼̤̯̫͍̫̝̠̮̯̠̠̺ᚥ҉҉̦̹̝͔̞͙̱̯͉̬̥̰͡ᚤ​ᚥ ̵̴̭͚̜̞̖́͜͠ᚮ̵̡͎̩̬̫̲̳̻͍͉̰̫̩̮͎͟͡ͅᚮ ᚮ ̵̨̛̘̤͚̫͎̀ᚯ̶̸͔͚̩͈̥̫͉̼͉͓̙̹̻̤̀͜ᚯ​ᚫ ᚫ̛̩̹͚̗͓̣̗͚͕̟͔̙͓̣̳̹̱͜͝ ᚤ̧͎̙̖̠̮̜̖̤͚̮̮̯̼̯̩͎ͦ͆̊̊ͣͪ̃͗͊ͮ́͘̕͟ͅͅᚡ̧̫̗͈̮̣͇̖̻ͬ̔ͣͫ͂͋͐̾̏̄͜͟͡ᚯ​ᚫᚤ̶̷̬̳̜̩͇̖̹̟̮̯̩͔ͬͤ̋́̍̓ͣ̏ͦ̓͊ͪͅͅᚥ̱̜̣̹̝͈̯̣̾͋ͩ̽ͫ̎̇͊ͫͩ͌͌ͨ͋̂͂̿͢ ̝͚͙̘̬̥̱̫͈̭̏̋ͣ͛͗͜͝ᚮ̳͎̭͙̟͙̦̜͙͚͔̼ͤ́͂̒ͯ̿ͬ̂ͫ̊ͮ̏̌͂́̚̕ ̴̸̛͎̞̫̣̜̝͍̪̱̻͔͗̈͂̀ͪ͗͛ͥ̍̓ͧ̀ͩ͆̆̚ᚥ҉҉̦̹̝͔̞͙̱̯͉̬̥̰͡ᚤ​ᚥᚯ̓͊ͭ̿̌ͤ͗ͨ̊͛̀҉̷̢̰̳̹̤̤͙̪̺̰͙͓̠͓̲̪̫͘ᚫ̵ͮ̅͆ͯ̓̈́̐͗͌͋͊͊͋̅͘҉̧̼̤͙̟̻̙̘̫̘͉̘̼̻̼̝̟͓͓̮
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Oh wow.
That's preeetttyyy...

I shall attempt to translate!
 
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