pbluekan
Somethin's Fucky ...
- Location
- Trumpistan
Yeah. PhD is short for Doctor of Philosophy.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- United States
[X] [Temple] Sacred Forest
[X] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of geographically linked administration
[X] [Law] Restrict access points (Main Build Wall)
[X] [Diplo] Look around for more reasonable people (Main Sailing Mission)
Anyone have any idea what occupationally-linked administration does?
[X] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of geographically linked administration
[X] [Law] Restrict access points (Main Build Wall)
[X] [Diplo] Look around for more reasonable people (Main Sailing Mission)
Anyone have any idea what occupationally-linked administration does?
VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
[X] [Temple] Sacred Forest
Either this or rainbow trail.
[X] [Law] Recruit more peacekeepers (Main More Blackbirds)
[X] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of geographically linked administration
Test case before more widespread use of Blackbird.
[X] [Diplo] Look around for more reasonable people (Main Sailing Mission)
Screw all those jokers, we will go out and find people like us.
Either this or rainbow trail.
[X] [Law] Recruit more peacekeepers (Main More Blackbirds)
[X] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of geographically linked administration
Test case before more widespread use of Blackbird.
[X] [Diplo] Look around for more reasonable people (Main Sailing Mission)
Screw all those jokers, we will go out and find people like us.
We've never actually seen what going over Centralization or Hierarchy does, though we know it's bad. However, all of our stats that have hit red have 2 points of Golden: 12 and 13. (over that causes problems) As such, going one point into golden isn't likely to make us hit danger red.
In addition it has "greater odds" to give stability.
edit: fix claim that 14 is golden, that's the red limit.
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[X] [Temple] Sacred Forest
[X] [Clan] Rework clan foundation and dissolution laws to be more adaptive
[X] [Law] Crackdown on all this crime (Main Enforce Law)
[X] [Diplo] Look around for more reasonable people (Main Sailing Mission)
Going for this at the moment. Probably change it later depending on the arguements. The only one I'm certain of is building the temple in the Sacred Forest. It fits Ymaryn culture the best, I think.
[X] [Clan] Rework clan foundation and dissolution laws to be more adaptive
[X] [Law] Crackdown on all this crime (Main Enforce Law)
[X] [Diplo] Look around for more reasonable people (Main Sailing Mission)
Going for this at the moment. Probably change it later depending on the arguements. The only one I'm certain of is building the temple in the Sacred Forest. It fits Ymaryn culture the best, I think.
- Location
- Canada
[x] [Temple] Upper Valleyhome
[X] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of geographically linked administration
[x] [Law] Recruit more peacekeepers (Main More Blackbirds)
[x] [Diplo] Send missions to the west (Secondary Trade missions to Hathatyn and Metal Workers)
[X] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of geographically linked administration
[x] [Law] Recruit more peacekeepers (Main More Blackbirds)
[x] [Diplo] Send missions to the west (Secondary Trade missions to Hathatyn and Metal Workers)
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Civ Sheet: Diff Checker
12 +2 (diplo missions last turn) + 1 (saltern) + 1 (trails) + 3 (mine) = 14 Diplo + 5 Art overflow
Econ 12 [-1] -> 10 [-1]
12 - 1 (temple) - 1 (true city) - 1 (trails) -3 mine + 4 expand econ = 10
11 + 3 (mine) + 5 (art overflow) = 14 + 5 mysticism overflow
Mysticism 2 [-1] -> 6 [-1]
2 -1 (temple) -1 (Love of Wisdom) +1 study stars + 5 overflow = 6. Yay for mine
Prestige 13 -> 14
Turns out having 2 iron-fueled marches mulching nomads is very prestigious =D
Diplo 12 (+2) [+1] -> 14 [+1]
12 +2 (diplo missions last turn) + 1 (saltern) + 1 (trails) + 3 (mine) = 14 Diplo + 5 Art overflow
Econ 12 [-1] -> 10 [-1]
12 - 1 (temple) - 1 (true city) - 1 (trails) -3 mine + 4 expand econ = 10
Stability thankfully stayed at 0, so the city issues haven't hit stab yet...
Centralization 2->3 as expected from trails
Art 11 -> 14
11 + 3 (mine) + 5 (art overflow) = 14 + 5 mysticism overflow
Mysticism 2 [-1] -> 6 [-1]
2 -1 (temple) -1 (Love of Wisdom) +1 study stars + 5 overflow = 6. Yay for mine
Prestige 13 -> 14
Turns out having 2 iron-fueled marches mulching nomads is very prestigious =D
New techs! Previously "Groomed Trails" and "Plank Wheel Carts"
Is this different than "expand forests"?
I'm sure someone asked when we found out about their grand city, but does the DP's true city tell us for sure that they have aqueducts, or are there other ways to manage that, like having a slum system and not needing to care about order and nature and death?
Ouch...many murders :/
Also issues with administration still
I... really don't have any idea how the clan system should work, or how any of these would change things... D=
Yay provinces
Sweet!
Also not sure on the temple...i remember skimming through discussions of where to put it, but i didn't read them
Hmm...I kind of want the west, just to get more info on them...sailing mission would also be nice...too many options D=
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- Location
- Hell
Actually Rainbow Trail is our first Holy Site.
To note, we just saw in the update that we have new trails and will be required to do more New Trails to upgrade existing trails. As is, only some of our Northern Territories have Gravel Trails.
If we take Enforce Law, we'll have no Centralization space to take such projects.
UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Only now?
pblur
Reminiscing over the halcyon days of Ymaryn
- Location
- Lawrence's Wagon
[X] [Temple] Redshore
[X] [Clan] Rework clan foundation and dissolution laws to be more adaptive
[X] [Law] Crackdown on all this crime (Main Enforce Law)
[X] [Diplo] Send missions to the east (Secondary Trade missions to Highlanders and Thunder Horse)
[X] [Clan] Rework clan foundation and dissolution laws to be more adaptive
[X] [Law] Crackdown on all this crime (Main Enforce Law)
[X] [Diplo] Send missions to the east (Secondary Trade missions to Highlanders and Thunder Horse)
- Location
- United States
We either get 2 centralization, or 3 as it's a main action. That's a large chance of going into the red. Also, we have no issues right now with centralization that we need to fix immediately.
What happened to us wanting to build roads last turn? If we do the enforcement, we'll have to wait for us to drop centralization again (maybe 2 times) before we can improve logistics again.
Sites:
-Valleyhome - More dedicated to politics. Unpopular choice IC
-Sacred Forest - More dedicated to spirituality. Links to Sacred Forest and Grand Canal upkeep.
-Rainbow Trail - More dedicated to spirituality. Waterfall will have Issues with erosion in the future, despite the view.
-Redshore - More dedicated to politics.
[] [Clan] Rework clan foundation and dissolution laws to be more adaptive
Currently we have some laws in place to prevent vote stuffing by splintering families madly, which will be put at some risk.
Potential for corruption and likely to lead to some Stability losses.
Somewhat premature.
[] [Clan] Make clan adoption rules better able to handle situations
Continue present state with a patch job.
Unlikely to cost stability. May boosst it if the admin roll is good.
[] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of geographically linked administration
This leads to de-facto hereditary land, but it's easy to manage.
Also encourages gerrymandering later on, as districting is a major issue.
No predicted stability loss
[] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of occupationally linked administration
This leads to caste politics, very hard.
Some risk of stability loss
[] [Clan] Leave things be
"lets wait for a better time to do this"
Defers the problem for later
[] [Law] Restrict access points (Main Build Wall)
Costs 2 Econ, which we can afford easily.
Helps manage crime through making it easier to investigate where the bastards went. Basically a force multiplier on police effectiveness.
[] [Law] Recruit more peacekeepers (Main More Blackbirds)
Costs 1 Econ, which we can afford easily, and 1 Mysticism, which we ALSO can currently afford, since we're at 6.
More police, less crime. Potential to spin off a full police force. Will cause Martial overflow
[] [Law] Crackdown on all this crime (Main Enforce Law)
Free, and boosts Stability but eats up Centralization we need to finish roading everything.
[X] [Temple] Sacred Forest
[X] [Clan] Make clan adoption rules better able to handle situations
[X] [Law] Restrict access points (Main Build Wall)
[X] [Diplo] Send missions to the west (Secondary Trade missions to Hathatyn and Metal Workers)
Also checking on the West. See what the hell they are up to. It's too quiet.
-Valleyhome - More dedicated to politics. Unpopular choice IC
-Sacred Forest - More dedicated to spirituality. Links to Sacred Forest and Grand Canal upkeep.
-Rainbow Trail - More dedicated to spirituality. Waterfall will have Issues with erosion in the future, despite the view.
-Redshore - More dedicated to politics.
[] [Clan] Rework clan foundation and dissolution laws to be more adaptive
Currently we have some laws in place to prevent vote stuffing by splintering families madly, which will be put at some risk.
Potential for corruption and likely to lead to some Stability losses.
Somewhat premature.
[] [Clan] Make clan adoption rules better able to handle situations
Continue present state with a patch job.
Unlikely to cost stability. May boosst it if the admin roll is good.
[] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of geographically linked administration
This leads to de-facto hereditary land, but it's easy to manage.
Also encourages gerrymandering later on, as districting is a major issue.
No predicted stability loss
[] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of occupationally linked administration
This leads to caste politics, very hard.
Some risk of stability loss
[] [Clan] Leave things be
"lets wait for a better time to do this"
Defers the problem for later
[] [Law] Restrict access points (Main Build Wall)
Costs 2 Econ, which we can afford easily.
Helps manage crime through making it easier to investigate where the bastards went. Basically a force multiplier on police effectiveness.
[] [Law] Recruit more peacekeepers (Main More Blackbirds)
Costs 1 Econ, which we can afford easily, and 1 Mysticism, which we ALSO can currently afford, since we're at 6.
More police, less crime. Potential to spin off a full police force. Will cause Martial overflow
[] [Law] Crackdown on all this crime (Main Enforce Law)
Free, and boosts Stability but eats up Centralization we need to finish roading everything.
[X] [Temple] Sacred Forest
[X] [Clan] Make clan adoption rules better able to handle situations
[X] [Law] Restrict access points (Main Build Wall)
[X] [Diplo] Send missions to the west (Secondary Trade missions to Hathatyn and Metal Workers)
Also checking on the West. See what the hell they are up to. It's too quiet.
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- Location
- Illinois
[X] [Temple] Sacred Forest
[X] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of occupationally linked administration
[X] [Law] Recruit more peacekeepers (Main More Blackbirds)
[X] [Diplo] Send missions to the west (Secondary Trade missions to Hathatyn and Metal Workers)
[X] [Clan] Dissolve clans within the city in favour of occupationally linked administration
[X] [Law] Recruit more peacekeepers (Main More Blackbirds)
[X] [Diplo] Send missions to the west (Secondary Trade missions to Hathatyn and Metal Workers)
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Good catch, switching to Walls
- Location
- Hell
What about upgrading the trails in our Southern Territories? We also need to create Trails to our Western Wall March.
We're already at our Martial Limit and we are already seeing warriors getting rowdy per word of AN.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
One is where you live, one is what you do.
Generally if a clan becomes too small to warrant getting its own representation it will be folded into another clan, ideally another small one, but sometimes geographic restrictions involve folding the smaller one into a larger one and then potentially splitting them into two medium sized clans.
Currently clan adoption outside of marriage is complicated and generally doesn't cover people who are still in contact with their original clan.
Someone asked how to accelerate building the temple but it got eaten, but anyway, the only accelerant is to throw more actions at it.
Having multiple layers of walls and a lack of concern for human life may also be a path to attaining True City status.
We also got 1 Mysticism from the Study Stars our provinces did, so we should have 7 Mysticism. I think.
EDIT: just remembered that Great Temple construction actions also consume 1 Art, so we should only have 4 overflow into Mysticism and 6 Mysticism in total
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VoidZero
Passing Flan 布丁魔王
- Location
- Anywhere but RL
We could somehow turn martial points into stability if the Blackbird policing test case went well.
I'm not too worried about martial going over cap as we have option to transfer our points to Marchs.
- Location
- Australia
[X] [Temple] Sacred Forest
[X] [Law] Restrict access points (Main Build Wall)
[X] [Diplo] Send missions to the west (Secondary Trade missions to Hathatyn and Metal Workers)
I'm hoping we can establish some sort of peace with the Hathatyn so we don't have to worry about them pulling any shit in the future.
[X] [Law] Restrict access points (Main Build Wall)
[X] [Diplo] Send missions to the west (Secondary Trade missions to Hathatyn and Metal Workers)
I'm hoping we can establish some sort of peace with the Hathatyn so we don't have to worry about them pulling any shit in the future.
Our first Golden value of Centralization is 5. We are currently at 3. All our other stats have 2 golden numbers, so it's reasonably likely that going to 6 still leaves it at golden.
And we still have the incompetent lower-level administrators which we need to resolve, which is dealt with by raising Centralization.