Glory and grudges
I'll point out this very update proved that's an incredibly stupid line of thought. Because the more we depopulate the steppe around us the more nomad tribes are going to be curious and come to check out the locale. They were peaceful traders this time, but mass nomad genocide is just as likely to bring a distant khan down on our heads as anything else. Until you can outright exterminate the nomads and chase them down into the steppe- it's just not viable. Foreign tribes will come knocking, the tribes fleeing will replenish and turn their exodus into a legend, and when they return- the steppes will still be shitty, hard to defend marginal pastoral land because we're not made of Terra Preta and the action economy involved in landscaping steppes is utterly obscene.
@Academia Nut Does this mean we successfully scarred the entire nomadic culture for millenia? Or are we gonna have to do better?
is 'radius of 1000 km' accurate and precise?
Directly East, rather.Wrong direction for the Caspian. That's directly west, and it's close enough that we'd have heard of it before.
It's probably a new sea AN created while he was chillin.
Even our own memory lasts only a few centuries at most. For the nomads it's just about three generations at most.
Yeah, but the original hero was most likely a admin/martial hero. He came into this hoping to profit off the trade routes by destroying our access to the MWs, but he seems to have lost sight of that by the time of the second invasion, since he completely ignored the stallions and the coastal settlements to get the loot from the softer north provinces. There was, as far as I can tell, no real strategic damage done, to the point where we literally shrugged off all the damage within one turn. He gained nothing except a bit of prestige from the fact that he was able to wound us ever so slightly.
He only died last turn, he was still in charge at the time of the second invasion. And the second invasion accomplished literally none of his original goals.
They just broke their teeth on the Osmium Will of the People.
Perhaps they have an Exploration value or divinity.
Perfection of society is stagnation. A 'perfect' society is one that can't be improved. Perfection of society is that odd medieval status that pops up in fiction all the time. Perfection is good for engineering. Perfection of society is all about purity. Societies obsessed with purity take the engineering definition. Basically, 'Perfection is when there is nothing else can be taken away and the desired function remains intact'. I have yet to see that end well.
The People are Marxist Communalists. That is one where private property isn't a thing and everyone works for the betterment of the society.
...AN outright said we would have crushed them if not for literally the perfect storm of 2 heroes + 2 crits. Getting a pyrrhic victory out of that shows just how well we really did in that fight. A pyrrhic victory was our best case scenario with that in mind, so I wouldn't use this as an example of what will happen in the future.
Yeah, GS Secondary is actually at 2 actions/stability, which is bad but not that bad. Main is 1.75, and RoO is 1.52
Hurray someone who also thinks the east is good for expansion plans. It's really good in fact. We can push east and turtle along as we go, good luck digging us out. We can even fortify "under fire" so to speak with our policies and such. We only need a secondary War Mission really in support of our provinces and we can spend the rest on Econ, tech, and Forting everything to Crow's Beak and back.
I wouldn't mind a North East March, actually - serious expansion in that direction might be a non-starter, but if we set that up we'd be fully protected from bullshit nomad invasions in the future.
I've always been suspicious of the belief we'd figured out exactly where we are - I half expect that AN made our local area like Georgia, but the World Map isn't going to look anything like Earth at all.
Yeah, I'm not sure why East hasn't been mentioned as viable - the map makes it look like it's unclaimed.
