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I'm taking it as a good right now.
Paths of Civilization
- Thread starter Academia Nut
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Bad thing. Very bad thing. Whether it's a bad thing to us or someone else remains to be seen.
BungieONI
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Only the dice know now.
I'm gonna sit here and enjoy the fireworks. *puts on sunglasses, sets up beachfront viewing*
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No. We have max Mysticism boi!
E: More seriously, if that southwestern superpower joins that could explain it. If that power vassalizes the Highland Kingdom we won't have a choice anymore except surrender to one of the two powers. Depending on how far away their powerbase is I'm not sure that our state can survive the vassalization to either, but at least their tax ministers will be crying tears of joy about our state. (if they aren't corrupt, in which case we're fucked with a leaking lead pipe)
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DocMatoi
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Big pit, bury us in the communist dwarf fashion- from earth we came, to earth we go.
BungieONI
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With Magma.
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BungieONI
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Damn you have good choice in music. *bobs head*
...Yeah, I'm guessing somebody got a Martial hero, and it probably was NOT us. 
DocMatoi
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Yay, Highlanders!...Yeah, I'm guessing somebody got a Martial hero, and it probably was NOT us.
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Better crops, more resiliency agains climate shenanigans, improved soil quality, the possibility of turning poor soil into good soil.
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boss fight? boss fight...Yeah, I'm guessing somebody got a Martial hero, and it probably was NOT us.
Umi-san
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k but how would rando traders know/notice any of this? We take people in, not lose them. They'd just think we're good at farming.
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Read Kiba post, he says that as the knowledge has already spread why would people do it if they already have good farmland, my response is for that.
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Spliting forces was even worse, and doing a total retreat would leave the space open for reaguard attack from the Thunder Speakers to smash us agains the nomads, so or we kill the Crazy Horses or we would die.
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I doubt we will be forced to surrender. We are honestly not worth attacking, and while they may not know it at first once they get stuck in inside our hills their soldiers will learn it pretty quick.
Remember that any such vassalization of the HK weakens the attacking force before they get to us. In addition mountains and hills are not easy to move an army across.
I'm of the opinion that they will only get to vassalize us if they can actually walk into Valleyhome.
Really though I think a Warboss spawned for the Nomads. That should be interesting.
All you panicking buggers, I am not concerned that we are fucked. If we do not cease to exist we will overthrow our rulers, or they will simply fuck up hard enough we escape.
Honestly my current feelings are <Amusement> with a dash of <Anticipation>.
Umi-san
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Ah, k. I disagree that it would have alrdy spread, but given this assumption your response is logical.
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Do you see our econ? At the very lease we're worth tributing, and holy hell do we hold some defensible ground. Since both superpowers want to have a go, they'll both be sending messages of send stuff over including your warriors or we'll be taking all of that by the wagonload, minus a lot of bodies.
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They are welcome to try.
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When you have one problem, it's rather tricky to deal with.
When you have two problems, then they tend to solve themselves.
Also, why would the southwestern super power even know of our existence? They are really really far away. Like farther away than the Thunder Horse. And the Thunder Horse already have difficulty attacking us directly.
Basically what lies between us and the southwestern super power is:
The Southern Hill People and their rough terrain.
The Mountains separating the HK and the SHP.
The HK themselves and their hills.
The Badlands.
Our defensive terrain and ability to play the numbers game.
That is a ridiculous Logistics train that would have stumped the Romans for at least a century. Plus we have had no word that the power is actually even remotely interested in our part of the world.
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I'm not really sure that the TH are as strong as we believe, actually. When they arrived they brought cholera, then the whooping cough showed up 2ish turns later, and then the blue plague.
While they are a strong polity, the 3 major diseases that their enemies were hit by probably made it significantly easier.
While they are a strong polity, the 3 major diseases that their enemies were hit by probably made it significantly easier.
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Blue plague = Cholera. Because apparently you turn blue when you die from it. But yeah.
Plus the take over of the TS happened after a prolonged, multi turn beat'em up. Where it sounded like at a few points the TS might actually pull through.
Following this was the combined beat up on the Xoh, who were not as powerful as they could have been.
This all took something like 5 to 7 turns. More than a century. And it involved quite a bit of luck to.
It's the city state thing that is letting them be so strong. They are certainly nothing to sneeze at but they do not seem overwhelming. E: Certainly not a superpower. At least not anymore of one than the Xohyssiri were during their height a couple centuries ago.
Also @aceraptor, @huhYeahGoodPoint I point you to this passage from the last update
The Thunder Horse who vassalized the TS and Xoh is not interested in helping them. So this tells me it would take a much more extreme thing to happen before the ETH comes to fight us.
For the next bit I think we have to deal with the Xoh and the Nomads as we finish cowing the TS.
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Umi-san
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Yeah, they would maybe know of our existence but aren't likely to know where we are or really much of anything. They're so far that to us they're the rumor of a rumor, and due to the lessened distance they're more likely to attack the SHP than us, even if we do somehow manage to absorb the HK and expand all along the northern coast.
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