- Location
- Yes.
...wonder if that blademonster rift's still open?
Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
As exciting as that might be, I'm not sure it's wise to air drop in the results of an interdimensional sealing failure.
- Location
- Yes.
Why would we need to airdrop them?
- Location
- The state of Paranoia
I originally read this as Grass Cannabis Bridge, and had a great many questions. Which also gave me some off the wall ideas.
Can we get the guards high/drunk? Do we have any vermillion sigh from the biosealer capture mission? I know that aerosolizing alcohol didn't get people very drunk, but what if we aerosolize a more potent drug, like vermillion sigh?
Just random ideas.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Don't forget what we should bring. We have carte blanche here, let's not waste it; we have the opportunity to create things for the competition from the seals we get.
e:
Plan 1: Drop explosives from above
Pros: Nearly guaranteed to work. Very fast results, little recon needed.
Cons: Guarantees that people know someone didn't want that bridge there. It's obvious who.
Plan 2: Aburame-bug bound delivery of munitions.
Pros: Nearly guaranteed to work; perhaps better results than above.
Cons: Dependent on Aburame capacities and Kagome going along with it.
Plan 3: Excavation technique, whether human or pangolin-used
Pros: Fairly effective, can mitigate risk with earth clones. [I'ma be real there's not much I can think of that's going for this one.]
Cons: Discovery results in death. Less an issue for pangolin , but them doing it gives away Konoha entirely. Clones are okay.
Plan snippets (may be added to any plan):
- Drive chakra beasts over to take credit for the booms or engage in them themselves.
- Use technique or seal to create earth quakes either light, to counter sensory techniques, or heavy, to either destroy the bridge or fake its destruction, actually destroying it with something less natural.
- Flash seal or technique (for egress)
- Earthquake seal or technique
- Permission for skywalkers
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Jello_Raptor
(Confirmed Jelly)
- Location
- Left of Center
Any reason not to just rods from god them?
We probably don't even have to hit the bridge.
A 100 kg stone from 10km up would be a massive shock. Take a bit over 45s to drop, have an impact velocity of just under 450 m/s, and register somewhere between 1.5 and 2 on the Richter scale.o
So just bring 40 stones, drop 10 in the first volley as close to one end of the bridge as possible. Use the rest to finish the job, and any leftovers can be slammed into granite outcrops to destabilize them.
Mewing and cutting the stones should take 2 hours and a Noburi charge, less with some additional ninja help or more chakra. The seals are already made to use.
Just need to bring:
We have experience with using skywalkers at height, and while 10km is pretty high (1-2 km higher than Everest) we're ninja, have tunnelers friends, only need to activate some seals once we're at that height, and don't need to stay at that height very long.
Edit: I'm pretty sure we can't really match that damage with untargeted explosives, and strategically placed shaped charges require us to get close.
Also Kagome and Hazou make a decent minimal team for this. Add someone with a decent sensory technique that works in mid air, and we're set.
Edit2: Seriously though. This is a great case of KISS (Kagome Implemented Stone Sabotage). We shouldn't get anywhere near the ground. If there's no-one watching at the exact moment it's broadly indistinguishable from an earthquake.
Keep a few backup plans handy. If we can't demolish the bridge from height, we stick a pile of explosives on a rock and drop it from lower down onto the bridge. If we still can't do it, we start wildfires on both sides of the bridge with stupid boxes, back off for a moment to make sure the coast is clear, and nip in close to finish it off.
If there's an enemy camp near the bridge then we start a wildfire somewhere upwind and out of sight. Drop a rock onto it to force somebody to investigate, hole up till they've evacuated, then rocks fall the bridge dies.
If the wind changes, we start more wildfires where needed to drive the ninja out.
We probably don't even have to hit the bridge.
A 100 kg stone from 10km up would be a massive shock. Take a bit over 45s to drop, have an impact velocity of just under 450 m/s, and register somewhere between 1.5 and 2 on the Richter scale.o
So just bring 40 stones, drop 10 in the first volley as close to one end of the bridge as possible. Use the rest to finish the job, and any leftovers can be slammed into granite outcrops to destabilize them.
Mewing and cutting the stones should take 2 hours and a Noburi charge, less with some additional ninja help or more chakra. The seals are already made to use.
Just need to bring:
- skywalkers
- one or two skytowers
- A plumb Bob (ideally about a km long) to help with targeting.
- A telescope for surveying the damage from a distance.
We have experience with using skywalkers at height, and while 10km is pretty high (1-2 km higher than Everest) we're ninja, have tunnelers friends, only need to activate some seals once we're at that height, and don't need to stay at that height very long.
Edit: I'm pretty sure we can't really match that damage with untargeted explosives, and strategically placed shaped charges require us to get close.
Also Kagome and Hazou make a decent minimal team for this. Add someone with a decent sensory technique that works in mid air, and we're set.
Edit2: Seriously though. This is a great case of KISS (Kagome Implemented Stone Sabotage). We shouldn't get anywhere near the ground. If there's no-one watching at the exact moment it's broadly indistinguishable from an earthquake.
Keep a few backup plans handy. If we can't demolish the bridge from height, we stick a pile of explosives on a rock and drop it from lower down onto the bridge. If we still can't do it, we start wildfires on both sides of the bridge with stupid boxes, back off for a moment to make sure the coast is clear, and nip in close to finish it off.
If there's an enemy camp near the bridge then we start a wildfire somewhere upwind and out of sight. Drop a rock onto it to force somebody to investigate, hole up till they've evacuated, then rocks fall the bridge dies.
If the wind changes, we start more wildfires where needed to drive the ninja out.
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
About that one... I don't actually think that's necessarily the case if we've got Aburame on board.
And re: the second, Hazou's not really helpful. He's midway between genin and chuunin in skill due to his consequence, and not allowed to do sealing right now. I haven't seen anything that suggests he would be a better option than Akane would be.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Cari, bugs can't actually carry paper. Physics doesn't allow it - their wings beat onto the paper so they get dragged down as much as they get pulled up.
I'm amazed no one has mentioned this yet.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Flying bugs are not the only bugs the Aburame used. And why should it be necessary for them to fly it in? It's paper. All they have to do is direct its path as it falls within a given margin of error and be able to destroy it, which is something insects are certainly capable of.
Jello_Raptor
(Confirmed Jelly)
- Location
- Left of Center
Hazou would be mildly better at calibration of the drop, but Akane has more versatility.
It's arguable which to send, but mostly I want to see things go boom and set fires IC rather than just hearing about it.
Edit: Also even if we have an Aburame whose bugs can get close, dropping rocks to start an earthquake is still great cover. (Also it's fun :>)
Edit 2: I'm a little giggly about how the most !FUN! plan, might actually be the most reasonable. Or it might just be the sleep dep, but still💥🔥💥🔥💥🔥
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Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
I'm sure eaglejarl would be happy to write the results of plan regardless if he's half as eager for the booms as you areHazou would be mildly better at calibration of the drop, but Akane has more versatility.
It's arguable which to send, but mostly I want to see things go boom and set fires IC rather than just hearing about it.
Edit: Also even if we have an Aburame whose bugs can get close, dropping rocks to start an earthquake is still great cover. (Also it's fun :>)
Edit 2: I'm a little giggly about how the most !FUN! plan, might actually be the most reasonable. Or it might just be the sleep dep, but still💥🔥💥🔥💥🔥
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Silver.
The canyon is dry.
She's a grifter, not a thief. She does have stealth skills, but she generally feels no need to get all sweaty and dirty out in the grass and such.
Thank you, glad you liked them. Chapters 309 and 310 were basically @Velorien throwing down the gauntlet and me picking it up.
Velorien: Beat that, EJ!
Me: Hold my over-marshmallowed hot chocolate.
Velorien: Dude, breaking it into two separate chapters forty minutes apart is cheating.
Me:
Velorien: Hmmmm... I'll get you, my pretty. You and your little hopeful players, too.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Ninja'd
EDIT:
He's willing to give you up to 8 sets, meaning about 30 minutes of flight time for each of 4 people.
I was as well.
EDIT:
Followed a link from a "reacted" alert back to the Arikada arc, saw this. Was amused.
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- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Yes. Wingbeats form an eddy that gets disrupted by the paper they are carrying, dragging them downwards. This eddy is why a plane the size of a bumblebee can't fly but a bumblebee can, so it's... important.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
You certainly appear to know more about flight than I do, so I'll cede to your judgement. Is there anything stopping us from having bugs deliver seals by ground, then?
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
As long as they are sufficiently smudge resistant, no.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
Great, thanks! It's salvageable then. Just get dyed-for-camo seal quality paper.
- Location
- uk
in theory if the paper is low enough below / offset enough at an angle to the bug it wouldn't disturb the flight? Other than the weight / catching air.
Basically what I'm saying is we get tiny string and tie each piece of paper to the legs of many bugs.
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I say this without having spoken to the other QMs, but I'm pretty confident in the answer so you should take it as WOG unless you hear otherwise:
Bully for him, but MfD Aburame insects can't do that.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
How does one make a Bridge collapse look like 'An Accident'? Anything well-built enough to last any amount of time is not going down to 'An Accident'.
Anyway, I like the idea of applying chakra acid animals and then adding some demolitions work which makes it look like an infestation. Damned chakra-animals, they're everywhere these days!
Anyway, I like the idea of applying chakra acid animals and then adding some demolitions work which makes it look like an infestation. Damned chakra-animals, they're everywhere these days!
- Location
- Yes.
- Location
- America
We should be able to blow up a bridge without breaking OpSec on novel explosives like orbital mass drops and Kagome's implosion seals. In front of the Aburame and/or Rock+Grass. Unless this bridge is a jonin in disguise, we can limit ourselves to the weapons of regular destruction.