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Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest

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Adhoc vote count started by Velorien on Jan 1, 2020 at 8:18 AM, finished with 284 posts and 17 votes.
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    [X] Action Plan: Discussing The Contest
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : The Missing-nin Travels of Gasai Yuno and Satsuko
    [X] Lore Update
    [X] Action Plan: Contest Discussions
    [X] Lore Update: Keiko Attempts To Tell Us How Shadow Clone Works Before Cariyaga Has An Aneurysm But Is Distracted By Ami
    [X] Action Plan: Biological, Political, and Military Science
    [X] Training Akane: Double Trouble
    [x] Dept. of Committees Committee
    [X] Lore Update: Keiko Tells Us How Shadow Clone Works Before Cariyaga Has An Aneurysm
    [X] Action Plan: Lifty Uplift
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : Saving Private Noburi (from Kakashi's Perspective)
    [x] Action Plan: Kagome forbidden lore
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : Haru POV of Hazou asking to feel his Killing Intent
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : Keiko POV of Hazou asking to feel her Killing Intent
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : Hana POV of Hazou asking to feel her Jounin Aura
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : Mari POV of Hazou asking to feel her Jounin Aura
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : Ami POV of Hazou asking to feel her Jounin Aura
    [X] Lore Update: Keiko Attempts To Tell Us How Shadow Clone Works Before Cariyaga Has An Aneurysm But Is Distracted By Ami; Cariyaga subsequently has an aneurysm
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : Saving Private Noburi
    [x] Action Plan: Ask Keiko How Shadow Clone Works
    [x] Action Plan: fun with ninja in our estate
    [x] Action Plan: Give response to Oro before he loses patience
    [x] Action Plan: Check up on Mari
    [x] Action Plan: ask for compensation for oro estate from Asuma
    [X] Lore Update Suggestion : Ami Flashbacks
    [X] Join ANBU
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faflec said:
Hmm...

[X] Action Plan: Discussing The Contest
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  • Discuss the contest with the clan.
    • Questions:
      • How hard should we go for rewards? Should we go for just one?
      • Should we work with other ninjas/ninja clans?
    • Contribution ideas:
      • Jiraiya's sealing/spy notes: The former is apparently really valuable; the latter is also critical given our shredded spy network.
        • We also have some of Jiraiya's old contacts and could re-establish contact if Asuma gives us leave.
      • 2SB-Skywalkers: Experiment with 5SB to see if the central seal + 1 supporting seal supports our weight, then ask Kagome if developing a 1-support-seal 5SB which activates via chakra adhesion and a shorter central-support seal distance is producable in 2 months.
      • Skysliders: Work on them IFF Kagome deems them viable. Use wall-walking to test many designs quickly and improve on the most viable models.
      • Semaphores: Test using faraway lamps, mirrors, and telescopes to gauge distance needed for clear messages. Work with Kagome or a cryptographer and develop a Wabun code.
      • Aito's mine: There's a good chance we could clear the land and make it productive.
      • Elemental Mastery: Indirectly stack EM to liquify airand produce hurricanes, use this as leverage in future negotiations.
        • Is Akane OK with sharing EM?
      • Isan: Does this count since it's a joint mission? Would we have to do it within 2 months?
        • Noburi: Where is your relationship with Yuno at? What do you think of making a serious proposal to her?
      • Capybara Scroll: We have information on where they've gone; we could hunt the thieves down and gain support over the clan in Tea.
      • Nagi Island: If the bijuu reform in the same location where they died, we should investigate and try to capture them.
        • For that matter, what was Pein up to; what, exactly did their seal array do? Ask Kagome, see if information survived the Tower.
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We really should had ranked the proposals by what we think will produce the most value for the least amount of effort, and explain the value proposition for each project.

Now our poor QM will have to do the work themselves.
 
Cariyaga said:
It seems to me that our predicted Asuma's-Ranking is more relevant than our personal ranking.
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They're linked, and it'll decrease computation time to compile the latter first and then ask the former. Given that any proposition will probably be accepted with at least an elevator pitch worth of "Why this is useful", anything we decide is super useful is probably something Asuma decides is super useful. So once we have our list, one can ask the question "Which of these would a dictator of ninjaland whose village just got nuked and is low on manpower etc etc deem the most useful?" and do some shuffling.
 
Oneiros said:
Fair. I think my ranking pretty much will match up with what Asuma will appreciate. The things that I didn't rank won't get us much credit
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You don't think Skysliders or Chadar seals would get us much credit? The former means that skywalkers become an effective tool for strategic movement rather than tactical only as they are now (for clans that aren't 33%+ sealmasters, anyway), and the latter significantly improves the combat abilities of every ninja equipped with them.

There's also just giving over Macerators, which are something usable by every taijutsu spec without a substantial amount of training.
 
Cariyaga said:
You don't think Skysliders or Chadar seals would get us much credit? The former means that skywalkers become an effective tool for strategic movement rather than tactical only as they are now (for clans that aren't 33%+ sealmasters, anyway), and the latter significantly improves the combat abilities of every ninja equipped with them.

There's also just giving over Macerators, which are something usable by every taijutsu spec without a substantial amount of training.
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Yeah these are mostly marginal gains that won't stack up to the tons of stuff huge clans with decades of secrets can bring to the table. As a clan of 6 people with no long term secrets to offer we need to go for big moves if we want any chance of winning
 
Oneiros said:
Yeah these are mostly marginal gains that won't stack up to the tons of stuff huge clans with decades of secrets can bring to the table. As a clan of 6 people with no long term secrets to offer we need to go for big moves if we want any chance of winning
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I really don't think Skysliders are marginal gains. They basically end about 90% of deaths to chakra beasts (excepting airborne ones) to Leaf ninja, and vastly improve logistics and strategic level movement.

Big moves don't necessarily mean big gains for Konoha. Sometimes the boring stuff is the most effective. That said, I'll give you my sorted list for impactfulness and effort on our part:

Macerators
J's notes
PTJ
Merchant Council
Spy network
Skysliders
Nagi Island [if not already known]
Chadar Seal
Isan
Capybara scroll
Everything else

Macerators are at the top because we already have them. so they're an easy gimme. Merchant Council similarly, but J's notes take precedence because J.
 
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Cariyaga said:
I really don't think Skysliders are marginal gains. They basically end about 90% of deaths to chakra beasts (excepting airborne ones) to Leaf ninja, and vastly improve logistics and strategic level movement.

Big moves don't necessarily mean big gains for Konoha. Sometimes the boring stuff is the most effective. That said, I'll give you my sorted list for impactfulness and effort on our part:

Macerators
J's notes
Merchant Council
Spy network
Skysliders
Nagi Island [if not already known]
Chadar Seal
Isan
Capybara scroll
Everything else

Macerators are at the top because we already have them. so they're an easy gimme. Merchant Council similarly, but J's notes take precedence because J.
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I feel like:

"Hi, we're a group of former missing-nin! Many people in Konoha think we're traitors and would say so explicitly! We subverted one of your fundamental institutions for our own convenience, something which other ninja must surely have thought about subverting and decided not to. Now we're offering to let you all share in this subversion of your ideals, so long as you give us some goodies!"

isn't going to go over too well.
 
Paperclipped said:
I feel like:

"Hi, we're a group of former missing-nin! Many people in Konoha think we're traitors and would say so explicitly! We subverted one of your fundamental institutions for our own convenience, something which other ninja must surely have thought about subverting and decided not to. Now we're offering to let you all share in this subversion of your ideals, so long as you give us some goodies!"

isn't going to go over too well.
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Yeah, if Kagome put it to them, sure. On the other hand, we don't tell Mari to do sealing or Akane to do technique hacking, so I don't know why we'd have anyone express it like that.
 
So, Thought. If the QMs don't want to model every single contribution, how Asuma sees it, and whether Hazou gets its hands on it, I'd propose the following:

For every non gouketsu contribution the thread comes up with, Leaf as a whole (including us) gets an xp boost. The quality and availability of the contributions increase the xp, but make it harder for the thread to win 1 or more prizes. Then the overall amount affects how the event was perceived. A 5 xp boost? Man the Hokages stealing our secrets and we get nothing!
50? Makes our cannon fodder less useless... I guess... grumble grumble.

2000 over the course of 2 months? Holy hell we need an Asuma day!

This incentivises all contributions from the thread, and ideally preserves some qm spoons. Thoughts?
 
Long time lurker here. Just taking the opportunity to thank the QMs and players for an incredibly entertaining four years. Great writing and discussions.

Also a random thought: has anyone considered taking the opportunity to dust off the old blimp plans? They would work well with skysliders (basing, getting them up into the air, longer-distance travel, think aircraft carrier), and their main combat weaknesses may be solvable with paint and a well timed 5SB.

Anyway, thanks everyone! Excited to see what 2020 brings the quest.
 
Twinnstars said:
So, Thought. If the QMs don't want to model every single contribution, how Asuma sees it, and whether Hazou gets its hands on it, I'd propose the following:

For every non gouketsu contribution the thread comes up with, Leaf as a whole (including us) gets an xp boost. The quality and availability of the contributions increase the xp, but make it harder for the thread to win 1 or more prizes. Then the overall amount affects how the event was perceived. A 5 xp boost? Man the Hokages stealing our secrets and we get nothing!
50? Makes our cannon fodder less useless... I guess... grumble grumble.

2000 over the course of 2 months? Holy hell we need an Asuma day!

This incentivises all contributions from the thread, and ideally preserves some qm spoons. Thoughts?
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I've contributed around 12-14 so far already :p
 
cegluf said:
Long time lurker here. Just taking the opportunity to thank the QMs and players for an incredibly entertaining four years. Great writing and discussions.

Also a random thought: has anyone considered taking the opportunity to dust off the old blimp plans? They would work well with skysliders (basing, getting them up into the air, longer-distance travel, think aircraft carrier), and their main combat weaknesses may be solvable with paint and a well timed 5SB.

Anyway, thanks everyone! Excited to see what 2020 brings the quest.
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Much more labor intensive project than skyslider. I expect it to cost us a pretty sum.
 
Cariyaga said:
I really don't think Skysliders are marginal gains. They basically end about 90% of deaths to chakra beasts (excepting airborne ones) to Leaf ninja, and vastly improve logistics and strategic level movement.

Big moves don't necessarily mean big gains for Konoha. Sometimes the boring stuff is the most effective. That said, I'll give you my sorted list for impactfulness and effort on our part:

Macerators
J's notes
PTJ
Merchant Council
Spy network
Skysliders
Nagi Island [if not already known]
Chadar Seal
Isan
Capybara scroll
Everything else

Macerators are at the top because we already have them. so they're an easy gimme. Merchant Council similarly, but J's notes take precedence because J.
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Added in PTJ.
 
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