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But at least Kei's social skills wont matter for a while. Yay spending some XP on combat stats!?
Kei has asked us to power level Deceit for her. If we ignore her wishes, she might just ignore us and make her own (bad) decisions.

That's what she did with the Shadow Element. She randomly decided on her own to buy the Shadow Element and wasted 1000xp on an element and jutsu that she never uses.
 
Assuming Itachi allows an idiot duo.
Difficult never to. Konan and Sasori are both homebodies for practical reasons. Itachi and Kisame are the two Summoners, and we saw them team up on the Seventh Path. That only leaves Hidan and Deidara. We know that Itachi mixes this up at least sometimes- his initial extortion of Leaf had Deidara on hand, for example, but Hidan and Deidara have to be paired up at least some of the time. Importantly, unless Akatsuki breaks their buddy system on the 7th Path and makes themselves a bit more vulnerable, Itachi and Kisame have to pair up whenever either of them wants to do 7th Path business.
 
Kei has asked us to power level Deceit for her. If we ignore her wishes, she might just ignore us and make her own (bad) decisions.

That's what she did with the Shadow Element. She randomly decided on her own to buy the Shadow Element and wasted 1000xp on an element and jutsu that she never uses.
I mean it would be kind of weird to receive Nara training and secrets and not know any of their actual jutsu... in fact I think the players were explicitly asking why she doesn't know any Nara jutsu but I don't recall for certain

She doesn't use the jutsu cuz she barely gets in fights :V

Also we don't want to level it bc we don't know what it does so it's kind of a gamble... the real solution is to convince her (or Snowflake) to reveal the mechanics of the jutsu
 
Itachi and Kisame have to pair up whenever either of them wants to do 7th Path business.

The Crows can probably get to the Ocean. So I am not understanding that part.

Kei has asked us to power level Deceit for her. If we ignore her wishes, she might just ignore us and make her own (bad) decisions.

That's what she did with the Shadow Element. She randomly decided on her own to buy the Shadow Element and wasted 1000xp on an element and jutsu that she never uses.

If Kei thinks that this is going to help us kill Akatsuki, then sure why not.

But I don't think that she will lose sight of the current goal, given to us by Naruto. She also didn't go killing chakra beasts, but accepted to be Hazou's research bodyguard without delay.
 
I think the plan is to immediately boost it to 30-31 and softcap, then pivot to Athletics and whatnot so Hazou isn't smoked in the meantime
Athletics 47 (eff 50) would be nice, and then pivot to Taijutsu 57 (eff 60) would be nice, but I suspect that's probably too much to hope for :(

I mean it would be kind of weird to receive Nara training and secrets and not know any of their actual jutsu... in fact I think the players were explicitly asking why she doesn't know any Nara jutsu but I don't recall for certain

She doesn't use the jutsu cuz she barely gets in fights :V

Also we don't want to level it bc we don't know what it does so it's kind of a gamble... the real solution is to convince her (or Snowflake) to reveal the mechanics of the jutsu

Hm, I don't remember asking about the Nara jutsu, but I can see it.

As for the fights, that's fair. I remember Velorien giving a Word of Kei that certain jutsu synergized especially well with her fighting style, but I can't exactly recall which ones.
 
Nara Clan Ninjutsu

This is a summary of Kei's potential Nara ninjutsu, to be presented to Hazō next time the two meet (unless Hazō dies before then, in which case ignore this post).

Shadow Imitation – You know it, you love it. The user's shadow stretches out to ensnare an opponent's own shadow. If the connection is made, the user can control the opponent's body, making them imitate everything the user does.
Shadow Guardians – A defensive technique that is particularly effective against ranged weapons and in single combat.
Shadow Step – An enhancement to Substitution that hinders enemy movement.
Shadow Betrayal – A moderate debuff that hinders enemy movement.
Shadow Visage – A general-purpose defensive technique.

While she cannot share more details with you (even this much is pushing it), she, as always, defers leveling decisions to you. If you do not give specific instructions, she'll make decisions of her own volition. Please vote in a Kei training plan for this coming cycle spending at least 500 XP into these ninjutsu.

In Kei's opinion, she thinks Shadow Guardians suits her style, Shadow Imitation is generally strong, and Shadow Visage is appealing personally.
 
Exact mechanics would be nice... maybe if we do the QMs a solid and Hazou regularly fights alongside Kei/Snow when they use these, the QMs will be nice and reveal some of the mechanics.

Even knowing something as simple as "shadow imitation has a built-in +2AB" would be enough for me to consider leveling it, since I'm strongly confident we can also buff it (technically she can already buff it with combat frozen Skein). But it's going to be hard to convince players to invest in something they don't know anything about when there are other sure bets that are also strong (Storm Wind, RW, etc.)
 
Not that it would be easy per se but Hidan/Deidara is definitely one of the most favorable matchups for us
Assuming Itachi allows an idiot duo.
Note that a pair is the minimum size of a group of Akatsuki, not the maximum one. If they're sufficiently certain that Hidan is going to lead them to us, I could see them e. g. tripling up. Hidan (tracker) + Deidara (flyer) + Itachi or Kisame (babysitter).

(Alternatively, maybe it'll be Konan + Hidan, if she can drag Hidan along and thinks that Itachi/Kisame can keep things running in Rain for a week.)
 
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I think the plan is to immediately boost it to 30-31 and softcap, then pivot to Athletics and whatnot so Hazou isn't smoked in the meantime
There is an argument that then we raise Sealing to 59 after PS 31 keeping PS softcapped with it to maximize our PS level in the short-medium term.

I don't love this, but Hazou did come through his last combat unstagnation pretty well off even if most of the improvement there was RRBs and Force Blades. If we can research a few more buffs/debuffs before the next combat unstag we might be in business.
 
There is an argument that then we raise Sealing to 59 after PS 31 keeping PS softcapped with it to maximize our PS level in the short-medium term.

I don't love this, but Hazou did come through his last combat unstagnation pretty well off even if most of the improvement there was RRBs and Force Blades. If we can research a few more buffs/debuffs before the next combat unstag we might be in business.
OTOH we also need to research wide-AOE runes in order to effectively combat Akatsuki, which cuts into our research time.
 
There is an argument that then we raise Sealing to 59 after PS 31 keeping PS softcapped with it to maximize our PS level in the short-medium term.
This is a large amount of XP, even ignoring the PS portion there.

Note that we could just unlock Minatosealing with this amount of XP and invest enough XP into it to get the base level to 19.

If we get to PS 31 and whatever we're cooking up still doesn't cut it then we're fucked on that front and we need to see if MS can bail us out IMO.
 
I don't love this, but Hazou did come through his last combat unstagnation pretty well off even if most of the improvement there was RRBs and Force Blades. If we can research a few more buffs/debuffs before the next combat unstag we might be in business.
Debuffs are almost certainly off the table. QMs don't want them becoming the new infinite buffstack. Flash seals for example are now evidently buffs.

As for buffs, we'd have to spend xp on combat anyways to buy the buff combo stunts. Given how expensive getting the triple is, I think it's cheaper to just buy the skills directly.
 
Note that a pair is the minimum size of a group of Akatsuki, not the maximum one. If they're sufficiently certain that Hidan is going to lead them to us, I could see them e. g. tripling up. Hidan (tracker) + Deidara (flyer) + Itachi or Kisame (babysitter).

(Alternatively, maybe it'll be Konan + Hidan, if she can drag Hidan along and thinks that Itachi/Kisame can keep things running in Rain for a week.)
I strongly doubt it will be Konan, especially since there's really no telling that it will only take a week. My expectation is Itachi/Hidan, though I'm unsure how much patience Itachi has to run around after us. I'll bet Hidan finds it fun though
 
This is a large amount of XP, even ignoring the PS portion there.

Note that we could just unlock Minatosealing with this amount of XP and invest enough XP into it to get the base level to 19.

If we get to PS 31 and whatever we're cooking up still doesn't cut it then we're fucked on that front and we need to see if MS can bail us out IMO.
Fair enough I guess. We have note XP to spend, so Sealing 53 is as far as we'll go then.

We could go to 55 for the extra crossover bonus, but that's of questionable usefulness. 58 would put us up the AB in PS, moderately useful. It is almost 1000 XP.

I do want that before we buy Lightning element, let me be clear. So I think it's going, PS 31ish, Ath/Tai 49, Unlock MS, then probably more combat stats/MS levels.
 
I strongly doubt it will be Konan, especially since there's really no telling that it will only take a week
I'm inclined to agree, but we don't actually know that she's completely tied down in Rain, nor how much importance she'd assign to ensuring that the interlopers are squished. (As an example, perhaps demanding Hazou's death was their original plan for Leaf's reparations, but Itachi deviated from it, and now she won't trust Itachi with handling Hazou again. That's probably not the case, but it's the kind of invisible-to-us underlying dynamic that could end up making her go after us.)
 
We could go to 55 for the extra crossover bonus, but that's of questionable usefulness.
I would rather we just buy FP instead of buying levels of Sealing to get a +1 to PS rolls, if we're maxing rolls there. We need the good shit sooner than we need the number to be optimal.
 
I'm inclined to agree, but we don't actually know that she's completely tied down in Rain, nor how much importance she'd assign to ensuring that the interlopers are squished. (As an example, perhaps demanding Hazou's death was their original plan for Leaf's reparations, but Itachi deviated from it, and now she won't trust Itachi with handling Hazou again. That's probably not the case, but it's the kind of invisible-to-us underlying dynamic that could end up making her go after us.)
It's true that you could probably drum up a reason for any of them to come after us, just based on information we don't have. Tbf though she also isn't just tied down from kage duties, she's needed to assist Sasori in research as required too.
 
They don't go solo and only two of them can access the 7th Path. I'm not sure what you mean about crows and the ocean, whether their summon clans can interact is irrelevant to the Akatsuki buddy system.
Itachi and Kisame have to pair up whenever either of them wants to do 7th Path business.

Are you're talking about them only acting as a duo on the 7th Path? Because I really doubt that. Kisame showed up alone at Kumokogo's place and the buddy system is just their usual way to deal with things.

But assuming that this a hard rule even enforced on the 7th Path,
Sure.

Note that a pair is the minimum size of a group of Akatsuki

Likely, but I don't think they never acted alone. Probably changed after Kakuzu's death and them being the global police.
 
I would rather we just buy FP instead of buying levels of Sealing to get a +1 to PS rolls, if we're maxing rolls there. We need the good shit sooner than we need the number to be optimal.
Doesn't our SOP already include a reasonable amount of FP? Might as well be buying levels on top if we're doing it anyway, I remember people had calcs of how many rolls we'd need to make for a level to pay for itself in FP saved.
 
Are you're talking about them only acting as a duo on the 7th Path?
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Likely, but I don't think they never acted alone.
For your question, no. If my original post was unclear, I'm saying that them having to be a duo when they go on the 7th Path has implications for what the other duos can be, whenever relevant. If you want to add nuance, I suggest reading my original post to ensure I didn't already consider that nuance. For the second bit, Akatsuki was noted to be ultra-paranoid by ninja standards even before Kakuzu died. I do think that Akatsuki SOP has been, since their resurrection at least, to never have your partner need more than a round or two to be relevant to a fight if at all possible.
 
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