- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
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Dragon Ball: After the End
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
That is very clever, and might work as the base for some kind of sorcery, but on its own would just result in Jaron learning the Multiform. And if you did that, it would be an endgame move, because it would then be readily apparent that you were teaching restricted techniques to humans. Unless you convinced him to keep it secret.
It is multiplicative, yes. As for what makes it so damaging, it's like the aftermath of an adrenaline burst, in that the effects are similar enough to make the metaphor work. After you come down from an adrenaline high having exerted far in excess of the force you usually do, you may find that:
- Your muscles have torn
- Your bones have broken
- You have a sufficient buildup of lactic acid to make moving in any way excruciatingly painful
- You muscles have liquefied under the strain
- You muscles have torn away from your bones entirely
- Your heart has suffered damage or strain from overuse
Now Kaio-Ken not only removes that limiter, but lets you burst your limits in multiplicative fashion. So it starts by giving you all the lovely effects of adrenaline overuse, but several times moreso. And then we get into the mess that that kind of ki rush can cause, which is also a factor.
It's not tiring or damaging, but is very difficult. To be honest, the only reason you learned it in one year is because of your passive bonus from being a prodigy and your newly-Exceptional ki control. As it is, it's not really practical for you to use in combat unless your opponent quite obligingly waits a few seconds for you to do it. Not that that will never happen, this is Dragon Ball, but...well. Your pool of ki is split between as many copies as you can make. At your current, one-copy level, each has half.
Some Sorcery techniques can accomplish it, and if you're strong enough, powering up enough to give them a headache can make it not worth the effort to look.
- Location
- Too Deep in the Midnight Sea
Wait... Jaron is legally human? Wouldn't his status be "Sayan permanently in disguise"?
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
It would be if he knew about Saiyans. But he doesn't. He thinks that Garenhuld is alone in the universe. So he presents a security risk.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
So we let him "discover" that there are saiyans and, as tradition, we find a suitable saiyan girl his age for him to marry in order to introduce him to our society before that. Got it.
The Fourth Monado
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- Away
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Acceptably. I was hit with a surprise funeral that has slowed down everything. I've gotten some things done, but not as much as I'd like.
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The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
@PoptartProdigy
So we can't grind skills after we reach exceptional right? What if we do something like hold a tournament or give an open challenge to people in our age group to test themselves against us.
To make it even, we can also fight them at their own power levels. That should challenge us in pure skill.
Though it would probably be politically bad if we lost.... unless it was with kids handpicked from Clan Goku or something. Though if we win. That'll be one hell of a political statement.
So we can't grind skills after we reach exceptional right? What if we do something like hold a tournament or give an open challenge to people in our age group to test themselves against us.
To make it even, we can also fight them at their own power levels. That should challenge us in pure skill.
Though it would probably be politically bad if we lost.... unless it was with kids handpicked from Clan Goku or something. Though if we win. That'll be one hell of a political statement.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
That would be one way to do it, but if it proceeded with any DRAMA! it wouldn't make you advance. The rule of drama is very much in effect for Elite+ skills.
And the politics would be interesting, yes.
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The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
I presume you mean if it proceeded without any drama?
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Oh shit. You have my condolences. Take as much time as you need.
I think this would be pretty out of character for Kakara to do, since she doesn't like fighting.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Quite. I mean, if you wanted her to fight with other saiyan children you could use training in Crowd Fighting and Mask Affinity as an excuse but I doubt Kakara would fight for fun or go out of her way to fight more.
By the way, don't do what I said above. Going out of our way to defeat Saiyans while human sends the wrong kind of message.
By the way, don't do what I said above. Going out of our way to defeat Saiyans while human sends the wrong kind of message.
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The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
While this is true, she's also Driven. I can see her doing this once she hits a ceiling in her skill.
- Location
- USA
It might have been buried somewhere in the thread but has it been explained why not only having more Supers Saiyans around other than the Scions is illegal but they aren't even even allowed to get stronger and go past SS1? Where there strength is hard capped? They're going to get slaughtered when an enemy around Cell's strength shows up. Can't swarm them and can't overpower them, who thought this was a good Idea? Apologies if it's been asked before if I missed it in the story posts but I don't want to trawl through every comment.
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- Away
They're trying to hide. They think that if they don't show large amounts of power, no-one that strong will be drawn to their little backwater planet.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Stronger ki signature=detectable from farther out, apparently. There's a concern that a SSJ2 or higher would effectively broadcast our position systems and systems out from here.
The Fourth Monado
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- Location
- Away
Though that doesn't explain why people haven't tried for Godhood.
I mean, culturally I can see why, but Divine Ki is functionally undetectable.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
We dunno what the enemy is or can do, though. They might be able to detect it.
- Location
- USA
Don't they already have the wards to hide that? It's why they aren't scared of training to a power level of 1 billion in the first place. If the current wards aren't enough then how come they haven't been continually improving those since they set foot on the planet? They have to know they can't hide forever.
That too.
The Fourth Monado
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- Location
- Away
Personally, I doubt that.
I think the Enemy was drawn to the fame of Earth's defenders, not their ki.
If she feels a need to she probably could, yes, but IC-ly Kakara doesn't know that holding a tournament would give her greater chances of increasing her skill than merely training, and since she's as good at Hand-To-Hand Combat (dueling) as any person known to the Saiyans after the end of the Z fighters, I doubt she'd feel like she had to increase her close combat skills either.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
That was just an idea. The skills we have aren't just for fighting.
Throw a party to up communication, play poker to up deception, a race/obstacle course for flight and instant transmission, and whatever we can think of. Make Kakara someone who appreciates skill.