- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Gore, I am going to need you to step that back.
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Somewhere
Hey @PoptartProdigy , do the bonuses Gore won still apply in a future conversation?
Or in this conversation with Valentine?
Or in this conversation with Valentine?
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
It is a shame that the Omake bonuses are likely to be wasted. They only way I see them coming into play is if the winning plan goes wrong.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
Decent chance Valentine is the kind of person (who was made to love dandeer above all else) that would consult with his wife.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
That is what I call the plan going wrong. In that case we would have been better off just talking to Dandeer.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Or both parents at once.
Sorry. It was smash my screen and other stuff in a rage, kill myself or write that post. I chose option 3.
I've put it in spoilers until I can actually bring myself to actually delete it.
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
I am proud I remembered to check this thread and actually vote. I am proud to have been the Tie Breaker Vote.
Carrnage
Human
- Location
- New Zealand
dude, look up coping mechanisms online and possibly see a therapist, reactions that extreme over fiction are not healthy.
This was my coping method. As in, both this quest, and that post.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
When this inevitably goes wrong, we can probably get away with framing it less as "going behind Dandeer's back" and more "trying to avoid interacting with Dandeer in the first place." I mean, how were we to know Dandeer's idea of a "happy" Valentine is one where he doesn't get to make any of his own decisions? Etc.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
The update will be coming tomorrow. Possibly Tuesday.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Happy Valentine and Jaron more like. Or that's the alarming possibility here, anyway.
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I have literally zero sympathy for Lord Vegeta; even if he were experiencing the same locked-in syndrome as Jaffur I'd have no desire to pull him out of it. He's lying in the bed he made for himself when he started beating his wife and son.
But Valentine, as a distinct personality- well, suffice to say that he is very much what Dandeer made him to be. That person deserves some autonomy, and a great deal of sympathy if he's being puppeteered.
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- Actually pretty lost
Hey @PoptartProdigy , if we come out of this smelling like roses, will that be impressive enough to qualify for Elite communications? Something along the lines of "gain a huge bonus for talking your way out of trouble"?
I mean, I suspect that's going to be a hell of a DC to pass...
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I doubt that Poptart would want to promise anything. I suspect that having a breakthrough moment that leads to Elite rank requires booming success, i.e. a 'critical hit,' not just passing a very high-DC check after stacking up a wealth of modifiers.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
No.Hey @PoptartProdigy , if we come out of this smelling like roses, will that be impressive enough to qualify for Elite communications? Something along the lines of "gain a huge bonus for talking your way out of trouble"?
I mean, I suspect that's going to be a hell of a DC to pass...
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Well we can stop panicking then - it can't be a huge deal if it goes wrong, to the point of actually threatening anything beyond Dandeer's opinion of us and being allowed train Jaron!
Then why didn't you?I can just tell this is going to end fantastically...
More seriously I can't really see any plan that doesn't backfire barring lotsa luck.
Still if I were to vote it would be for Gore's plan...
Just my two cents...
...Seriously, what the fuck?
Not talking in private defeats the whole point, and I think you're underestimating Kakara. We know that convincing her to reverse her position on the Sealing was possible by the end of Year 2: convincing her of this would have been significantly easier.
Even if it goes "right" it's going to spoil, or at least make even harder attempting to resolve this situation diplomatically. And it's going to draw attention to us, because now we've openly moved against Dandeer, which will threaten the conspiracy.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
It's not ideal, and it's certainly not what I voted for, but I'm taking Pop's answer as indirect confirmation that the stakes really aren't all that high, and I suggest you do the same.
There's a vast gulf between "would unlock Elite level" and "stakes aren't high". Also between it and "things going well".
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Okay. I'm going to be away from the thread for a little bit, folks. Will not be available to answer questions. See you tomorrow or the day after.
- Location
- Australia
@PoptartProdigy, what was your initial reaction to the Valentine vote when it appeared? Did you expect it or were you surprised by it? Also, will the bonuses generated by this thread's diligent omake writers apply to the Valentine vote or are they completely worthless?
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Well... I didn't expect for that to actually win. I mean, I was one of the first to vote for it and I promoted it but the main reason I was against it was taken away a bit after that and there are those omake bonus...
I feel a bit conflicted about it. It is just the fact that I would feel the same had I switched the vote... well, at this point either of the options were good results for me but the salt generated takes away the taste of victory. This is a game, people should not have to feel upset like that from our choices.
The important thing here was getting Jaffur training, at least for me. While I usually don't like the confrontational aproach... I can't feel that guilty about it here. Not for hate of the character or because of her role in the sealing but for her reaction when we stopped the missiles. That is the indication of how far gone she is: That she doesn't care about lives as long as it doesn't endanger her family versus the values she supposedly imparted on Jaron, who thinks she would be disappointed if he didn't help people.
It is not a good excuse to vote for it but it at least should explain why the anger generated is the reason I feel bad about it.
Edit: By the way, wasn't the second omake written by Jester, who also voted for vegeta? And it had a bit about talking to valentine at the end? That one should still applt, I think?
Edit^2: Nope, it was a greater bonus toward convinving Dandeer.
Ok, I think this is about to get ugly in thread Not my intention at all.
I feel a bit conflicted about it. It is just the fact that I would feel the same had I switched the vote... well, at this point either of the options were good results for me but the salt generated takes away the taste of victory. This is a game, people should not have to feel upset like that from our choices.
The important thing here was getting Jaffur training, at least for me. While I usually don't like the confrontational aproach... I can't feel that guilty about it here. Not for hate of the character or because of her role in the sealing but for her reaction when we stopped the missiles. That is the indication of how far gone she is: That she doesn't care about lives as long as it doesn't endanger her family versus the values she supposedly imparted on Jaron, who thinks she would be disappointed if he didn't help people.
It is not a good excuse to vote for it but it at least should explain why the anger generated is the reason I feel bad about it.
Edit: By the way, wasn't the second omake written by Jester, who also voted for vegeta? And it had a bit about talking to valentine at the end? That one should still applt, I think?
Edit^2: Nope, it was a greater bonus toward convinving Dandeer.
Ok, I think this is about to get ugly in thread
Not my intention at all.
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- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Let's just leave it until the update arrives, this isn't constructive. We've just had a Staff communication, we don't need another one.
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