Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
Aren't dragons in dbz benevolent, relatively tame, wish-granting artifacts often directly created by mortals?
I mean, it's a nice quote. But doesn't really fit dragons in dragon ball.
Dragon Ball: After the End
I mean, it's a nice quote. But doesn't really fit dragons in dragon ball.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Oh certainly, we might as well call it a dragon for lack of a better descriptor. Although given that the only dragons I know of in DBZ are related to the dragonballs, it would have interesting implications if it was a dragon of some kind.[smiles glassily with fixed, thousand yard stare]
No comment at this time.
Well said. "Dragon" may well be a spectacularly inaccurate description of the creature. On the other hand, it's a good working title until something better comes along. I'm reminded of a passage from Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light.
While Yama has a very good comeback to this, there's a certain insight in Tak's comment.
It makes little difference whether the creature that assails us be, strictly speaking, a dragon or not. Not so long as it is malefic, possesses great powers and ferocity, and operates on a level above and beyond the comprehension of normal mortals. 'Dragon' adequately conveys the spirit of the thing as a working title, if not the actuality of thing from the standpoint of taxonomy.
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As to the rest, well, if I had to pick one hypothesis above all others, it would be for the creature we're about to encounter to be some variation on the great magical dragons that give Dragonball its name. But there are so many other possibilities that I agree with you- there's no reason to get married to any one hypothesis, even if we use "the dragon" as a working title that adequately conveys the being's great power and menace.
The Shadow Dragon from GT disagrees!
Also I suspect he was thinking more from our perspective, as it really only matters in the context of the thread's discussions.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
But can't go super saiyan under it. This is the hypothetical scenario of being in a warzone dangerous enoughthat we should be attentive and able to go super at any moment notice. Not something aplicable in the near future (or any future, hopefully) but it is a potential use for it. Not something worth expending actions over to develope but if we are increasing it anyways at no action cost...
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Our Masqued maximum is pretty powerful.
A situation where three hundred million is too weak a power level for "standby" purposes until we can 'wake up' and go super-saiyan is possible, I guess. But given the kind of power levels we're talking about, I'd expect any environment like that to be one where the crisis gets resolved one way or another long before we get sleepy. If only because the planet we'd be standing on wouldn't last that long.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
GT never happened here.The Shadow Dragon from GT disagrees!
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
Reminder that Hildugarn is a dragon.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Select GT concepts still exist in-universe though.GT never happened here.
Shadow Dragon may or may not have made it in in some form, but it's a possibility, and that's all we need for considering possibilities.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
...where is that written?
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
His movie is called "Wrath of the Dragon". On a related note, the wiki says he was beaten by Goku's "Dragon Fist", which got used in a few other things like GT. Is that a lost technique, or is it entirely non-canon? It looks a little like a way better Wolf fang fist...
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
It's said in movie.
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- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
As, "Wrath of the Dragon," (which I actually take to be in reference to the Dragon Fist) is not canon in my continuity, and GT (also non-canon) was the only other place in which it was used, I hold that it was never invented.
Huh. Good to know. I mean, it's non-canon anyway, but thanks for clarifying.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
The update popped 24 pages ago. I knew that Jaffur/Jaron/Dandeer votes got contested, but damn. We've even had another staff visit!
This is the tally post-vote-managing; i.e., how it looks once I resolve the various splits. FYI, somebody under the, "circumvent Dandeer entirely and speak with Valentine instead," block has a sub-vote specifying that Dandeer must be in the room; this is trivial enough that I'm not going to split the vote over it, but if the main vote it's under wins and that sub-vote has more than half of the main vote's voters, I'm going to go with that.
However, that is presently academic, as Gore's vote is presently leading by six.
Three hours until I close, folks! Make your final arguments now!
Vote Tally : Sci-Fi - Dragon Ball: After the End | Page 636 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 15911-16460]
##### NetTally 1.9.8
[X] The time has finally come. You need to talk to Dandeer again.
-[X] Ask Dad and Grandma for advice. Doubles as insurance as they know what's happening.
-[X] Also, double-check that Jaron actually got permission for the training. If he didn't, you'll offer a formal apology to Dandeer, because whatever your feelings for her are, it was genuinely negligent on your part.
-[X] Talk to Dandeer in private about Jaron and his wish to fight.
--[X] Also ask her about her long term plan. The current situation does not seem tenable long term. Jaron can't be kept in an infantile state of dependency forever, and the Vegetans obviously aren't happy with him not being allowed to train.
No. of Votes: 20
[X] Actually, Lord Vegeta has the authority to say whether his son can fight or not, even sealed. And with the secret of Ki out, we can simply talk directly to him. Ask Valentine Somerlad for permission to train his son in how to fight.
No. of Votes: 14
[X] Fuck. Dandeer. You've tiptoed around her for long enough. Her son has ki, and he's on-camera as somebody who helped take Murk down. You have all the justification you need to teach him how to fight with ki. Teach Jaron, and damn Dandeer's expressed feelings on the matter.
No. of Votes: 3
[X] *Take a long, deep breath* You hate Dandeer, Dandeer hates you. Surprisingly (not) You know that she hates you and she knows that you hate her. But her son wants to learn how to fight. Not her first born son, but her second son. And as much as you want to make that decision... you really can't not without putting everything that you have been working towards in danger. Which means that you are being put in a terrible, horrible position. You need to talk to Dandeer about this. Both in the Masque and out of it. You hate this idea, but this is the best way to handle things because she does not handle even the image of things not being run by her. And the worst part, if we refuse to do this... Jaron will go off and do this on his own. Dandeer has to understand that... Right? He is doing this because he wants to be a good son. So either she has to convince him not to do this... or she has to let him do this. The other option is to reveal that she knows about Ki and Magic, because Jaron is figuring it out on his own, and if he decides that he is going to do this... then he is going to do this unless she actually stops him.
No. of Votes: 2
Total No. of Voters: 39
##### NetTally 1.9.8
[X] The time has finally come. You need to talk to Dandeer again.
-[X] Ask Dad and Grandma for advice. Doubles as insurance as they know what's happening.
-[X] Also, double-check that Jaron actually got permission for the training. If he didn't, you'll offer a formal apology to Dandeer, because whatever your feelings for her are, it was genuinely negligent on your part.
-[X] Talk to Dandeer in private about Jaron and his wish to fight.
--[X] Also ask her about her long term plan. The current situation does not seem tenable long term. Jaron can't be kept in an infantile state of dependency forever, and the Vegetans obviously aren't happy with him not being allowed to train.
No. of Votes: 20
[X] Actually, Lord Vegeta has the authority to say whether his son can fight or not, even sealed. And with the secret of Ki out, we can simply talk directly to him. Ask Valentine Somerlad for permission to train his son in how to fight.
No. of Votes: 14
[X] Fuck. Dandeer. You've tiptoed around her for long enough. Her son has ki, and he's on-camera as somebody who helped take Murk down. You have all the justification you need to teach him how to fight with ki. Teach Jaron, and damn Dandeer's expressed feelings on the matter.
No. of Votes: 3
[X] *Take a long, deep breath* You hate Dandeer, Dandeer hates you. Surprisingly (not) You know that she hates you and she knows that you hate her. But her son wants to learn how to fight. Not her first born son, but her second son. And as much as you want to make that decision... you really can't not without putting everything that you have been working towards in danger. Which means that you are being put in a terrible, horrible position. You need to talk to Dandeer about this. Both in the Masque and out of it. You hate this idea, but this is the best way to handle things because she does not handle even the image of things not being run by her. And the worst part, if we refuse to do this... Jaron will go off and do this on his own. Dandeer has to understand that... Right? He is doing this because he wants to be a good son. So either she has to convince him not to do this... or she has to let him do this. The other option is to reveal that she knows about Ki and Magic, because Jaron is figuring it out on his own, and if he decides that he is going to do this... then he is going to do this unless she actually stops him.
No. of Votes: 2
Total No. of Voters: 39
This is the tally post-vote-managing; i.e., how it looks once I resolve the various splits. FYI, somebody under the, "circumvent Dandeer entirely and speak with Valentine instead," block has a sub-vote specifying that Dandeer must be in the room; this is trivial enough that I'm not going to split the vote over it, but if the main vote it's under wins and that sub-vote has more than half of the main vote's voters, I'm going to go with that.
However, that is presently academic, as Gore's vote is presently leading by six.
Three hours until I close, folks! Make your final arguments now!
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
I can just tell this is going to end fantastically ...
More seriously I can't really see any plan that doesn't backfire barring lotsa luck.
Still if I were to vote it would be for Gore's plan...
Just my two cents...
...More seriously I can't really see any plan that doesn't backfire barring lotsa luck.
Still if I were to vote it would be for Gore's plan...
Just my two cents...
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
[X] Actually, Lord Vegeta has the authority to say whether his son can fight or not, even sealed. And with the secret of Ki out, we can simply talk directly to him. Ask Valentine Somerlad for permission to train his son in how to fight.
ElleonXan
Self-Proclaimed King of the Dumpster Fires
- Location
- USA
@PoptartProdigy, any chance that while we're on the subject of movie and GT continuity, we could get rulings on the canonicity of several of the other things that appeared in said mediums? I mean obviously, except for the first movie and the anime filler arc tying together, most of the movies really don't fit together in the timeline... but speaking strictly as abstract concepts that may or may not have but had the possibility of having occurred:
Is the Gogeta fusion form canon? Android 13's proto-cell android fusing and the "absorb the spirit bomb" thing that came in response to it? Bojack's gang and him being trapped inside King Kai's planet? Freeza's Brother CoolerTM? Brolly? Actually...
Is the Gogeta fusion form canon? Android 13's proto-cell android fusing and the "absorb the spirit bomb" thing that came in response to it? Bojack's gang and him being trapped inside King Kai's planet? Freeza's Brother CoolerTM? Brolly? Actually...
Despite my attempts not to spoil Super for myself, (which I'm failing at pretty hard, to be honest) I've managed to pick up that... apparently in an alternate universe there is a female version of Brolly or something? So even if Brolly himself is noncanon, (something entirely likely, seeing as how the movie doesn't really fit in the timeline... anywhere,) is the whole Legendary SuperSaiyan concept itself canon or non-canon?
- Location
- Yes.
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAA THIS WILL BE HILARIOUS
[X] Actually, Lord Vegeta has the authority to say whether his son can fight or not, even sealed. And with the secret of Ki out, we can simply talk directly to him. Ask Valentine Somerlad for permission to train his son in how to fight.
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
Super Saiyan Berserk is not LSSJ. They come from two different sources.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Yes to all.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Huh, sudden surge of voters there. While you're here @PoptartProdigy , could you maybe remind me how the three forms of hand-to-hand interact? And maybe put it on the front page? I can't remember whether Duelling is mutually exclusive with everything, or just with Team Fighting, i.e. does 1 vs 100 use Crowd Fighting and Duelling because you're fighting on your own, or is Duelling purely for 1v1s? I remember from the last time I asked that 100 vs 100 would use both Team Fighting and Crowd Fighting.
- Location
- USA
[X] Actually, Lord Vegeta has the authority to say whether his son can fight or not, even sealed. And with the secret of Ki out, we can simply talk directly to him. Ask Valentine Somerlad for permission to train his son in how to fight.
Throwing this out there while I work through my backlog of alerts. Every time I get close to getting to catch up on this thread more stuff pops up. Le'sigh
Throwing this out there while I work through my backlog of alerts. Every time I get close to getting to catch up on this thread more stuff pops up. Le'sigh
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Team Fighting is, as detailed on the character sheet, the art of fighting alongside others.
Crowd Fighting is, as detailed on the character sheet, the art of fighting multiple people.
Dueling is, as detailed on the character sheet, the art of single combat -- 1v1 exclusively, otherwise it isn't single combat.
Use all which describe the situation.
Artanis Prime
Knight of the Fallen Dream
- Location
- Matrix of Leadership
[X] Actually, Lord Vegeta has the authority to say whether his son can fight or not, even sealed. And with the secret of Ki out, we can simply talk directly to him. Ask Valentine Somerlad for permission to train his son in how to fight
I honestly don't know how I feel about this, but...
[X] Actually, Lord Vegeta has the authority to say whether his son can fight or not, even sealed. And with the secret of Ki out, we can simply talk directly to him. Ask Valentine Somerlad for permission to train his son in how to fight.
[X] Actually, Lord Vegeta has the authority to say whether his son can fight or not, even sealed. And with the secret of Ki out, we can simply talk directly to him. Ask Valentine Somerlad for permission to train his son in how to fight.