Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
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:-O
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[] Jii-chan...err, I mean Son Gohan, told me last time I visited him. He's been helping me train since I was little. His hugs are the best! He wants me to help your son.
"Let him out"? Wait, what does she mean? Isn't it impossible to "let" Jaffar out of his masque because it's permanent? That's how the sealing works; it makes the masque permanent.
And it's not like she said "you must have figured out a way" which would imply that we had researched it; instead she spoke as if letting him out of the masque is a thing-you-can-do. So... did she just let slip that there is a "revert back to Saiyan" switch for her spell?
Or is she just speaking colloquially and I'm overreading into things.
I think all it means is that the spell is reversible, which means we could theoretically have used Instant Transmission to grab Jaffur, get him to the Senzu sorcerer and have him undo the spell (of course, we don't know where the Senzu family is, but Lady Vegeta doesn't know that).
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Not going to outright ignore you, but for this one I will say, "no comment." Heh.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
As my day ends, I'd call this one tree well shook up. Let's see what fell out.
Vote to remain open for at least twelve hours, a figure I have selected using a carefully-devised system of throwing darts around my living room, analyzing the patterns they fall in, and then laughing and picking a completely random number of hours to leave it open for.
And then off to...
*vacant stare*
*slump*
*thump*
Zzzzz...
...
*looks around, steps over the body*
Well, that was sudden.
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X] I saw it and figured it out myself.
No. of votes: 2
Walkin' Man, ApocalypticFish
[X] I spent a long time studying all the known styles, and by chance momentarily stumbled into the right mindset in that moment. His style seemed absurdly good and I wanted to know how he invented it.
No. of votes: 5
ChildishChimera, Zuduke, Kairos123, Bakkasama, Chaossama
[X] I figured it out myself. To honor the dead.
No. of votes: 5
Gamerlord, SailorOfMyVessel, veekie, Fastrike, dunk1010
[x] He didn't teach me. I've spent much of the year trying to figure it out myself. I'm not quite there yet, but I'm getting better at it.
No. of votes: 2
Aranfan, Kelirapc
[X] First. Let me be honest with you. I will always be honest with you. What you did last summer? It was a horrible, awful thing, no matter what you tell yourself, no matter your justification, you did a monstrous thing to your son, his screams haunt me. And I will never forgive you. Live with that. To answer the question asked. I figured it out myself. Can't get help from a dead boy. The walking corpse you call Jaron doesn't even know about ki. What would be the point?
No. of votes: 2 (At effective 1 vote due to vote weighting.)
MrGazzer, Ct613hulu
[X] I spent a long time studying all the known styles, and by chance momentarily stumbled into the right mindset in that moment. His style seemed absurdly good and I wanted to know how he invented it.
-[X] Tell her everything you found out about it.
No. of votes: 1
Bommelom
[X] To be blunt? I was trying to figure out what was involved in teaching Jaffur a style that I had never heard or seen of before--and apparently nobody else had either. I'm not entirely sure why you have such a serious problem with this, it's not as though reverse engineering someone's techniques is unheard of.
No. of votes: 8 (Running even further in front, now.)
Alectai, Derkan, Scotchtape27, Yorick's Skull, Icefyre, Terrabrand, KnightDisciple, Nathaniel Wolff
[X] I developed an enhanced version of the Mind Delve technique that can access Jaron's latent, Sealed memories from about a mile away. I've been using it roughly monthly on him and his father. Despite remembering everything about using the style, I can barely scratch the surface. Your son was truly a prodigy in so many areas. It's sad that I'll never get the change to tell him so.
No. of votes: 1
KaintukeeBob
I, um...hm. Okay, so it definitely escalates, but not to outright violence, so no vote weighting and no bonuses. And yeah, that definitely gets Oddball. And trips a Deceit check.
##### 3.21
[X] I saw it and figured it out myself.
No. of votes: 2
Walkin' Man, ApocalypticFish
[X] I spent a long time studying all the known styles, and by chance momentarily stumbled into the right mindset in that moment. His style seemed absurdly good and I wanted to know how he invented it.
No. of votes: 5
ChildishChimera, Zuduke, Kairos123, Bakkasama, Chaossama
[X] I figured it out myself. To honor the dead.
No. of votes: 5
Gamerlord, SailorOfMyVessel, veekie, Fastrike, dunk1010
[x] He didn't teach me. I've spent much of the year trying to figure it out myself. I'm not quite there yet, but I'm getting better at it.
No. of votes: 2
Aranfan, Kelirapc
[X] First. Let me be honest with you. I will always be honest with you. What you did last summer? It was a horrible, awful thing, no matter what you tell yourself, no matter your justification, you did a monstrous thing to your son, his screams haunt me. And I will never forgive you. Live with that. To answer the question asked. I figured it out myself. Can't get help from a dead boy. The walking corpse you call Jaron doesn't even know about ki. What would be the point?
No. of votes: 2 (At effective 1 vote due to vote weighting.)
MrGazzer, Ct613hulu
[X] I spent a long time studying all the known styles, and by chance momentarily stumbled into the right mindset in that moment. His style seemed absurdly good and I wanted to know how he invented it.
-[X] Tell her everything you found out about it.
No. of votes: 1
Bommelom
[X] To be blunt? I was trying to figure out what was involved in teaching Jaffur a style that I had never heard or seen of before--and apparently nobody else had either. I'm not entirely sure why you have such a serious problem with this, it's not as though reverse engineering someone's techniques is unheard of.
No. of votes: 8 (Running even further in front, now.)
Alectai, Derkan, Scotchtape27, Yorick's Skull, Icefyre, Terrabrand, KnightDisciple, Nathaniel Wolff
[X] I developed an enhanced version of the Mind Delve technique that can access Jaron's latent, Sealed memories from about a mile away. I've been using it roughly monthly on him and his father. Despite remembering everything about using the style, I can barely scratch the surface. Your son was truly a prodigy in so many areas. It's sad that I'll never get the change to tell him so.
No. of votes: 1
KaintukeeBob
I, um...hm. Okay, so it definitely escalates, but not to outright violence, so no vote weighting and no bonuses. And yeah, that definitely gets Oddball. And trips a Deceit check.
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
No. of votes: 13
dunk1010, Walkin' Man, Bommelom, jamie96969, ApocalypticFish, ShadowAngelBeta, Jazzberry, Aranfan, Kairos123, ChildishChimera, Zuduke, adaer, KaintukeeBob
Still out in front, but by less.
[X] Accepting. You have stood in the presence of Son Gohan in the very heart of the Otherworld and experienced the full might of his divine presence. You could do no less than feel at least a smidgen of worship.
No. of votes: 1
Teen Spirit
Lost a vote.
[X] Disinterested. You're not really into religion, overall. It doesn't really matter to you when the real world's right there. As Jiichan said, deal with what's in front of you first. Hokey religions can come later.
No. of votes: 2
Kelirapc, veekie
No change.
[X] Curious. You're not sure what you think yet, but you'd like to learn more.
No. of votes: 7
Thriceboiled, Icefyre, Lailoken, KnightDisciple, Nathaniel Wolff, Terrabrand, Chaossama
Received all of the vote changes/new votes, and thus is now contending.
##### 3.21
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
No. of votes: 13
dunk1010, Walkin' Man, Bommelom, jamie96969, ApocalypticFish, ShadowAngelBeta, Jazzberry, Aranfan, Kairos123, ChildishChimera, Zuduke, adaer, KaintukeeBob
Still out in front, but by less.
[X] Accepting. You have stood in the presence of Son Gohan in the very heart of the Otherworld and experienced the full might of his divine presence. You could do no less than feel at least a smidgen of worship.
No. of votes: 1
Teen Spirit
Lost a vote.
[X] Disinterested. You're not really into religion, overall. It doesn't really matter to you when the real world's right there. As Jiichan said, deal with what's in front of you first. Hokey religions can come later.
No. of votes: 2
Kelirapc, veekie
No change.
[X] Curious. You're not sure what you think yet, but you'd like to learn more.
No. of votes: 7
Thriceboiled, Icefyre, Lailoken, KnightDisciple, Nathaniel Wolff, Terrabrand, Chaossama
Received all of the vote changes/new votes, and thus is now contending.
Vote to remain open for at least twelve hours, a figure I have selected using a carefully-devised system of throwing darts around my living room, analyzing the patterns they fall in, and then laughing and picking a completely random number of hours to leave it open for.
And then off to...
*vacant stare*
*slump*
*thump*
Zzzzz...
...
*looks around, steps over the body*
Well, that was sudden.
[X] I spent a long time studying all the known styles, and by chance momentarily stumbled into the right mindset in that moment. His style seemed absurdly good and I wanted to know how he invented it.
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
I want to reiterate the optimality of curiosity. Look at the latest description for it:
Reconciling the discordance is something she really should do, because he is a god. Also, a huge, enduring, clan-and-social-rank-spanning institution in the population she is intended to rule thinks of him as such. A cult which is intimately tied up in the most important event in her life- an event that may well be a serious PR issue for her in the future. A cult which is probably going to force its way into her concerns whether she wants to involve them or not. A cult which may be in possession of some very important knowledge. An institution which is best place to achieve a unification of the clans. We want her to desire to look into it and try to reconcile her prejudices and reality. A vote for curiosity is not an endorsement of or commitment to the religion, just an attempt to figure out how Gohan can be understood as both a grandfather and a god on the personal level.
Reconciling the discordance is something she really should do, because he is a god. Also, a huge, enduring, clan-and-social-rank-spanning institution in the population she is intended to rule thinks of him as such. A cult which is intimately tied up in the most important event in her life- an event that may well be a serious PR issue for her in the future. A cult which is probably going to force its way into her concerns whether she wants to involve them or not. A cult which may be in possession of some very important knowledge. An institution which is best place to achieve a unification of the clans. We want her to desire to look into it and try to reconcile her prejudices and reality. A vote for curiosity is not an endorsement of or commitment to the religion, just an attempt to figure out how Gohan can be understood as both a grandfather and a god on the personal level.
If we wanted to tailor Kakara's beliefs after which would gain most political support, doing away with "Gentle" would be much more useful. There's also nothing wrong with thinking that worshipping Gohan is silly, because it is silly. He can't hear prayers, and even if he did, he couldn't do anything to answer him. In addition, the Ancestor Cult can't be that large, or Kakara would have heard about it before now, so I'm pretty sure that most of the Sayian population either do not believe in it or are just not particularly pious. From how Berra and Kala never told Kakara anything about the Ancestor Cult a (and also from how Kakara's grandmother wanted to burn Dandeer as a heretic) I get the feeling that they and a significant amount of the Saiyan population consider the Ancestor Cult strange fanatics, and honestly I'm willing to agree with them (because, again, Kakara's grandmother wants to burn Dandeer for being a heretic). Being supportive or dismissive of the Ancestor Cult would likely both gain Kakara allies and enemies, but since I don't like religions that want to burn people as heretics, I'd rather have Kakara be dismissive of it.
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Worship doesn't enter into it. Its a question of her internalizing his role as a grandfather at the same time as the objective fact that he is a god. It's entirely possible to believe a god exists without worshiping them. This particular god is working with King Yemma in at least some capacity, so he clearly has some sort of authority. We don't know what his ability to observe the moral realm and intervene in it is.
Again, just figuring out how to process the fact that he is a god does not endorse any particular religion, but flat out rejecting the objective fact of his godhood alienates one. Just not denying a core tenant of their faith, one they are objectively correct about, is not the same as getting on the radio and declaring support for them.
Where are you getting that Kakara was completely ignorant of the ancestor cult? It's certainly quite possible for an eight-year-old with parents who aren't part of it to have not picked up on it, but I don't remember anything about it existing being a major revelation to her.
- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
Well:
She still accepts that he's divine, just not that she should feel any religious awe for him.
- Location
- Australia
[X] "I figured it out myself. To honor the dead."
We already know why she had "such a problem". She didn't, not really. She just suspected that we learned it from Jaffur himself after unsealing him and the idea freaked her out. Asking why she has a problem with it plain doesn't make sense since we know why she "had a problem with it".
As for my vote, the bitch deserves it.
We already know why she had "such a problem". She didn't, not really. She just suspected that we learned it from Jaffur himself after unsealing him and the idea freaked her out. Asking why she has a problem with it plain doesn't make sense since we know why she "had a problem with it".
As for my vote, the bitch deserves it.
Right, more questions.
Does our Pacifist trait make it harder to increase all combat skills, include non-offensive ones such as Instant Transmission and Power Ball, or only fighting skills and Ki Attacks? What about Solar Flare?
Am I right in assuming that there's people here who know the Shin Kikoho, given that it wasn't listed ast a lost technique?
How did Lord Vegeta rule his clan before being sealed away? Did he rule any differently than Yammar, and was he generally viewed as better or worse than his predecessor? Does Dandeer rule differently than Lord Vegeta?
What about Clan Goku? What are the differences between Lady Apra's rulership and Lord Berra's? How is Berra viewed in comparison to Apra?
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Oh, and how old are Kakara's siblings?
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Also, can the clones from the Multi-Form technique act independently if they're not near each other, and is there a time limit for how long you can keep them up? Wondering if we could learn the technique and use the clones to fool Lord Berra while we go looking for the Senzus.
Also, if we had chosen Jaffur, would we have gotten his overpowered style? Was that his hidden bonus? Also wondering about whether or not Dandeer's plan to seal Vegeta and possibly Jaffur away was his hidden detriment.
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Also, I think I found a mistake in the Yamcha Style.
Does our Pacifist trait make it harder to increase all combat skills, include non-offensive ones such as Instant Transmission and Power Ball, or only fighting skills and Ki Attacks? What about Solar Flare?
Am I right in assuming that there's people here who know the Shin Kikoho, given that it wasn't listed ast a lost technique?
How did Lord Vegeta rule his clan before being sealed away? Did he rule any differently than Yammar, and was he generally viewed as better or worse than his predecessor? Does Dandeer rule differently than Lord Vegeta?
What about Clan Goku? What are the differences between Lady Apra's rulership and Lord Berra's? How is Berra viewed in comparison to Apra?
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Oh, and how old are Kakara's siblings?
Doubleedit:
Also, can the clones from the Multi-Form technique act independently if they're not near each other, and is there a time limit for how long you can keep them up? Wondering if we could learn the technique and use the clones to fool Lord Berra while we go looking for the Senzus.
Also, if we had chosen Jaffur, would we have gotten his overpowered style? Was that his hidden bonus? Also wondering about whether or not Dandeer's plan to seal Vegeta and possibly Jaffur away was his hidden detriment.
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Also, I think I found a mistake in the Yamcha Style.
Is it supposed to give a bonus or a penalty to flight?
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- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
Her son nearly killed her, man, her actions were a bit over the top, but justifiable in an extreme situation, considering the viewpoint we get of Jaffur when we went SS, he he is wrong in the head (From a human standpoint, he's violent and battle-crazy) from years of trauma, this whole conversation needs to be tread carefully or we make a real enemy of someone who could make our attempts to help Jaffur very hellish.
[X] To be blunt? I was trying to figure out what was involved in teaching Jaffur a style that I had never heard or seen of before--and apparently nobody else had either. I'm not entirely sure why you have such a serious problem with this, it's not as though reverse engineering someone's techniques is unheard of.
I'd still rather try to de-escalate and I'm still afraid this vote might anger Dandeer, but the "I figured it out myself to honor the dead" vote is getting dangerously close to winning, so I'll shift. Bah.
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
I'd still rather try to de-escalate and I'm still afraid this vote might anger Dandeer, but the "I figured it out myself to honor the dead" vote is getting dangerously close to winning, so I'll shift. Bah.
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
In order:
The more offensive it is, the more trouble you'll have with it. The Kienzan will kick your ass; grinding Solar Flare will be easy.
You are correct.
You'll need to investigate Clan Vegeta to learn about those.
Berra's reign had been marked by a heightened separation from Clan Vegeta. Given Lord Vegeta's instability, that was generally seen as a good thing. Otherwise there is little difference in opinion. In order to learn about the current view on him, you'll need to investigate Clan Goku.
Mato is seven, Fasha is six, Endivan is four.
They can, although they do have the reduced power level.
Jaffur's style was one of several different flavors of overpowered you could have chosen between in chargen, each of which signified different things.
His hidden attributes are still unknown to you.
Whoops. Should be an involved technique only.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
How does the various super modes stand in that?
Does controlling great ape get a bonus?
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
They aren't intrinsically linked to violence and thus aren't a huge problem. They even benefit because the entire secret to controlling them is actually self-control and calmness.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
About as badly as most combat skills, and on top of that it is a legitimately difficult technique to learn.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Zzzzzzzztallywhuzatzzzzzz...
Poptart.
votetallyzuzuwuzzzzzzz-
Poptart!
Vvvvvvote Tally, everybody!
*blinks* Huh.
Anyway, things have more or less completely died down, so both votes are now closed. And the results, you ask?
Let's all give a rousing round of applause for
[X] To be blunt? I was trying to figure out what was involved in teaching Jaffur a style that I had never heard or seen of before--and apparently nobody else had either. I'm not entirely sure why you have such a serious problem with this, it's not as though reverse engineering someone's techniques is unheard of.
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
Update incoming!
Poptart.
votetallyzuzuwuzzzzzzz-
Poptart!
Vvvvvvote Tally, everybody!
*blinks* Huh.
Anyway, things have more or less completely died down, so both votes are now closed. And the results, you ask?
Let's all give a rousing round of applause for
[X] To be blunt? I was trying to figure out what was involved in teaching Jaffur a style that I had never heard or seen of before--and apparently nobody else had either. I'm not entirely sure why you have such a serious problem with this, it's not as though reverse engineering someone's techniques is unheard of.
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
Update incoming!
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
I am shocked, SHOCKED, that my late write-in didn't gain support.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
I am shocked, SHOCKED, that my late write-in didn't gain support.
Well, of course it didn't. You didn't rub in Dandeer's face the fact that she is wrong about her religion and her own god disapproved of her actions.
Such pettiness and childishness is expected by this point if we wish to be consistent. So next time, do try to keep wording and diplomacy to a level of maturity closer to the other players and you will have a greater success!
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- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
Well, of course it didn't. You didn't rub in Dandeer's face the fact that she is wrong about her religion and her own god disapproved of her actions.
Such pettiness and childishness is expected by this point if we wish to be consistent. So next time, do try to keep wording and diplomacy to a level of maturity closer to the other players and you will have a greater success!
So, tugging my eyelid and sticking out my tongue?
Gotcha.
Provocations
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] To be blunt? I was trying to figure out what was involved in teaching Jaffur a style that I had never heard or seen of before--and apparently nobody else had either. I'm not entirely sure why you have such a serious problem with this, it's not as though reverse engineering someone's techniques is unheard of.
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
[X] Skeptical. Worship...Jiichan? He's...he's Jiichan. That's just weird. Gods don't give hugs on-demand.
Provocations
You straighten, feeling a flicker of annoyance at her demand. "To be blunt?" you say, tilting your head slightly back.
She bristles at your tone.
"I was trying to figure out what was involved in teaching Jaffur a style that I had never heard of or seen before -- and apparently, nobody else had either," you say, muttering the last almost to yourself. Those were frustrating hours of research. You shake your head and look at her again. "I'm not entirely sure why you have such a serious problem with this; it's not as though reverse-engineering someone's techniques is unheard of."
By the time you finish your speech, her face is red with pent-up fury. "Why you little, arrogant, self-important-" she takes a deep breath, calming down. "...impudent child." She gives you an unpleasant smirk. "I think you'll soon find out that children who speak to their elders and betters like that tend not to make many friends, Kakara."
You flush in anger, opening your mouth-
"But that's besides the point," she says, standing and crossing her arms. "You didn't learn it directly from my son? Good. I'd feared you'd found a way around the Seal, despite my efforts to make it indestructible. It is, but for a moment I was afraid I'd messed up." She sighs. "But no. You merely discovered how to perform my son's style. The style I never thought I'd have to see again..." She drifts off, and you're left choking on fury at the reminder of what she did.
She turns to you. "You don't like me very much, do you Kakara?" she asks, cocking her head. "You fought against the Sealing, no matter what rumor says. You don't understand, do you? You don't really know why I did it. You would have fought with me, instead, if you had."
You shake your head; she doesn't know you overheard her, and it's best to keep it that way.
"Well, it's not for young ears to hear," she says, fingers digging into her biceps, and you want to scream.
"How am I supposed to agree with you if you won't tell me why?" you ask through gritted teeth.
She gives you a pitying look, and again you feel a surge of anger, tightly controlled.
"Oh, Kakara," she says, "I'm an adult. I'm the Lady Vegeta. Just because I'm that and you're a child, you need to listen to me. I know better, and you do not. I am forty-two years old, and you are nine. I don't know what your parents have been teaching you, if you don't know this-"
["Hot-Blooded" triggered]
You leap to your feet. "Shut up!" you scream, red in the face. "You don't talk about them! You never talk about them! They're great!" You might be angry with them, but they're your parents, and she has no right.
She stiffens. "Sit down, girl," she says. "And don't you dare speak to an adult in that tone of voice ever again." She sighs, shaking her head. "You are a spoiled little brat. I'm disappointed. I thought you would be a worthy successor to the gods. I thought you might be the person the Clans needed, as turmoil grows in our society. I thought that maybe you could be Holy Goku come again, but clearly you are an undisciplined little girl whose parents have failed to teach her anything at all of respect or-"
"Shut UP!"
BOOM
Golden light flares around the room as you transform out of sheer fury.
"I'm not a baby!" you yell, getting in her face as she rears back in sudden fear. She topples over and crawls back as you continue to shout at her, chasing her into a corner. "I'm strong and smart, and what you did was wrong! And I don't need a stupid, fearful hag like you to tell me what to do! You Sealed away your own kid! And you're telling me that I should listen to you just because you're older? Maybe that's how it should be, but that's not how it is! Maybe I don't listen to you because I don't think you've earned it!"
Lady Vegeta curls up in her corner, hiding her face away from you. "Vegeta, please..."
You flinch, leaning away. What?
* * *
Thing is...I didn't mean for Kakara to explode like this. The write-in didn't include it in letter or in spirit, and I feel iffy taking the character beyond the bonds of the players' choices. But then I realized that no matter what the players voted for, Lady Vegeta is not the kind of person to take criticism from a child with any level of restraint or equanimity, nor to assign a child even the capacity to shoulder responsibility or blame save in the context of their parents. Children are to be seen and obedient, not heard and questioning, and she does not recognize Kakara's capacity to be right in a contradictory context to her. It simply does not compute. And so she interprets the write-in, which takes a very equal-to-equal tone and questions the sense of the very action of asking the question Lady Vegeta asked, as Kakara acting with appalling and unpardonable rudeness. And given that children are incapable of holding responsibility, it must be the direct fault of their parents. And of course, Kakara is a mere child and thus incapable of contradicting adults once put in her place, so may be freely told this without fear of the consequences.
And one of the triggers for "Hot-Blooded" that I've identified is that Kakara loves her parents very dearly, and takes perceived assaults on them very poorly. She transformed over it. She only just now pulled the situation with Dad out of an outright freefall, hasn't resolved it completely, and is still emotionally tender about it. I had to look at things and say, realistically, that one: if I broke for a vote right there I'd have an update that didn't even cover a full text box, and two: I'd have to assign so much weighting to the "explode" option that if (inevitably) one person did vote for it, it'd win anyway. We'd be right back here, and I'd be posting an update of two hundred words before breaking again for the (in the grand scheme of things) far more important vote of what to do now.
And finally...at some point I just have to run with the previously-established traits and write the character as you all have set her to think.
GENERALIZATIONS INBOUND. THE FOLLOWING TWO PARAGRAPHS CONTAIN AN ANALYSIS OF A VERY NUANCED TOPIC, REDUCED TO SLIGHTLY INACCURATE TERMINOLOGY FOR THE SAKE OF BREVITY. YOU MAY PRESUME THAT SOME SEMANTIC ACCURACY HAS BEEN LOST IN FAVOR OF THE GENERAL SENTIMENT.
Crazy thing is, Dandeer's viewpoint on the role of children isn't even that unusual. I mean, it hits hard because it's presently being directed at the avatar for an audience of teenagers and adults, but to be honest, how many of us haven't treated a child at least a little like this at least once in our lives? We might not believe in the ethos as a general rule, but at some point we all find ourselves falling back on, "because I'm an adult." Why? Because children aren't susceptible to logic. "Fair" is "I got what I want," and "Good" is "It makes me happy." A good part of this is cultural in nature and has only evolved over the last century, but it is the cultural mindset children are inculcated with -- even though they are, as we're all aware, capable of being rational, thinking beings to a limited extent once they stop being toddlers, they are encouraged not to be in the name of innocence. The whole Garden of Eden scenario, writ large -- a big part of the tragedy of Kakara's relationship with her parents is that, as I've noted on her character sheet, she is no longer capable of seeing them as her idols, having experienced the traumatizing sensation of disillusionment far earlier than, culturally, we're comfortable with. But generally, children may be safely assumed to have not experienced such awakenings, and be incapable of applying that kind of thought. So, "I'm right because I'm an adult," really means, "You're wrong because you're immersed in the cultural role of a child and thus not thinking rationally," and that is usually right. But children don't understand that, and instead need, "Because I said so."
But Dandeer takes the ethos a step further, and thus believes that when she is an adult addressing a child, she in literally incapable of being wrong. And she extends that to all cases of a greater authority addressing a lesser. And given that she is the Lady Vegeta, that is a whole lot of right.
That said...
Lady Vegeta is curled up in a corner, in what appears to be a sobbing ball of trauma that you've triggered. What do?
[ ] Paranoia. What is this?
[ ] Guilt. What did I do? (Trips "A Cause," requiring a DC 40 Willpower check)
[ ] Distance. Time to leave, this is helping nobody.
[ ] Reconciliation. Please let me help. (Trips "A Cause," requiring a DC 40 Willpower check)
[ ] Write-In.
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