Remember my idea of just splattering her across the walls and telling everybody that she drew first? We really could get away with it. She's a usurper heratic who already mutilated two super-saiyans- her own family. Her trying to lure the other scion into a private meeting in order to cast a spell on her is something most people would find plausible or even be eager to believe.
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
Okay, so new question.
Why are you people planning to kill her and/or turn her catatonic?
Why are you people planning to kill her and/or turn her catatonic?
- Location
- Australia
She's evil. She was driven to evil by trauma, yes, but so was Vegeta.
- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
Okay, so to avoid having to pick my way through this onion of decisions, I'm just going to skip ahead, so if vegeta was driven to evil by trauma and he was redeemed, why not her? In fact, why Jaffur? He was traumatised, and did bad things, yet we still want to help him.
- Location
- Australia
I'm talking about Vegeta Vegeta, not Vegeta. Vegeta may have been redeemed, but Vegeta Vegeta never was.
He's a kid, so he gets leeway.
Mortifer
Embrace your inner lunatic. Fun times guaranteed.
- Location
- Under a rock.
Ah, yes, All of Jaffur's sins, which include:
-Being a bit violent
-Trying to kill the guy who pretty much everyone, IIRC, was willing to kill if we were playing as Jaffur
-Allegedly trying to kill his own mother, which given that he didn't kill Berra when he had the chance, is either bullshit, or involves something that makes Jaffur more willing to kill his mother than the Super Saiyan several times his powerlevel who he only has a small window to beat.
Such evil, wow.
He didn't even try to kill his father. He could have used the same approach he used to beat Berra then, but didn't.
- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
Meanwhile this lady did something that can likely be easily reversed, considering her wording.
And that's unforgivable.
And that's unforgivable.
I should point out that that special move nearly killed him in the first place, and he had that massive zenkai from his father handing him his ass.
Anyway, my take on the options:
[ ] Paranoia. What is this?
Focus on figuring out WHY she just broke down like that and also why she's making demands of US.
Because she sounds pretty dysfunctional and fishy.
[ ] Guilt. What did I do?
Suggests that we think WE fucked up here, somehow, and hurt her.
Kakara's pacifist roots revealed here, she doesn't want to hurt anyone, even someone like her.
[ ] Distance. Time to leave, this is helping nobody.
Back off at the sight of tears. May help her get time to gain control of herself, and likely figure out that you could manipulate Kakara through weakness.
[ ] Reconciliation. Please let me help.
As had already been stated, we can reconcile only by folding to her and giving in.
Which we could, if you know, anyone felt like giving in to HER here.
[ ] Paranoia. What is this?
Focus on figuring out WHY she just broke down like that and also why she's making demands of US.
Because she sounds pretty dysfunctional and fishy.
[ ] Guilt. What did I do?
Suggests that we think WE fucked up here, somehow, and hurt her.
Kakara's pacifist roots revealed here, she doesn't want to hurt anyone, even someone like her.
[ ] Distance. Time to leave, this is helping nobody.
Back off at the sight of tears. May help her get time to gain control of herself, and likely figure out that you could manipulate Kakara through weakness.
[ ] Reconciliation. Please let me help.
As had already been stated, we can reconcile only by folding to her and giving in.
Which we could, if you know, anyone felt like giving in to HER here.
- Location
- Too Deep in the Midnight Sea
[X] Reconciliation. Please let me help.
Characterization before strategy! We're a good hearted child and should act as such.
Characterization before strategy! We're a good hearted child and should act as such.
- Location
- Somewhere on Earth
What folding? We cannot possibly fold to someone undergoing a PTSD flashback, we literally can't, people having flashbacks exude anti-folding particles that prevent any and all folding because they're not exactly playing their cards, they're sorta trapped inside their own mind, y'know?
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
[X] Paranoia. What is this?
Give in to her demands, calm her tits.
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Are you sure about that?
I mean, don't get me wrong, you are also right in your perspective. But when offered multiple choices by the QM, it is because all of them are in line with the avatar's charácter.
[x] Guilt. What did I do?
For example, I don't think that reconciliation is viable yet and scaring people out of their wits and making them suffer with the threat of violence doesn't seem much in line with the pacifist option, since it still relies on who is strongest to determine who is right and we have seen how that went so far. Both are equally valid, as are paranoia and disinterest.
- Location
- somewhere over there.
- Pronouns
- They/It
No, she's an abused woman who ended up mostly killing her husband to escape from him. When her son found out and nearly beat her to death, she panicked and did the same to him. That is the worst interpretation of what happened. It could easily be argued that she just sealed away the causes of her family's insanity. She is by no means evil.
Mostly though, if we want Karaka to be the type of character who listens to sympathetic characters, and looks past initial impressions? This choice lets us cement that. We can still hate what she did without hating her, and learning to separate that sort of thing is a very good skill for a future leader.
[X] Reconciliation. Please let me help.
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- Location
- Australia
Sealing away her son meant effectively wiping his memories and personality, essentially killing him and replacing him with some other kid. What she did to Vegeta is more than justified, but even in a "panicked state" (she certainly had enough time to plan things out, including deceiving Berra) what she did to Jaffur is unforgivable. You don't kill kids.
That said, I want Karaka to be pure of heart but I don't want her reconciling with her. The unintentional threat of violence would be against her pacifism so I think this is the most IC option of them all.
[X] Guilt. What did I do?
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
[X] Reconciliation. Please let me help.
What would Jii-chan want us to do? What would Goku, the founder of our house, do?
When Goku stood above Frieze on a planet about to die, staring down at the monster which had slaughtered million, had tried to destroy him, and who had killed his best friend, he showed mercy.
Even in the midst of his first transformation, where he truly felt the Saiyan rage the first time, he gave of his own ki to save Frieza's life.
We aren't Goku, but our House is founded on his principles. Can we, Scion Goku, do any less?
How can we call ourselves Gokun if we see someone, even our worst and most dangerous foe, sobbing on the floor and say anything but, "How can I help?"
Besides, if we can just talk Lady Vegeta around, we can get her to undo the Sealing. Then we can have Jaffur back, and get Vegeta Vegeta into some serious therapy, and we can all be friends again!
What would Jii-chan want us to do? What would Goku, the founder of our house, do?
When Goku stood above Frieze on a planet about to die, staring down at the monster which had slaughtered million, had tried to destroy him, and who had killed his best friend, he showed mercy.
Even in the midst of his first transformation, where he truly felt the Saiyan rage the first time, he gave of his own ki to save Frieza's life.
We aren't Goku, but our House is founded on his principles. Can we, Scion Goku, do any less?
How can we call ourselves Gokun if we see someone, even our worst and most dangerous foe, sobbing on the floor and say anything but, "How can I help?"
Besides, if we can just talk Lady Vegeta around, we can get her to undo the Sealing. Then we can have Jaffur back, and get Vegeta Vegeta into some serious therapy, and we can all be friends again!
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- Location
- Netherlands
[x] Guilt. What did I do?
There's a chance she's manipulating us. However, her tells give me the impression that isn't the case.
She made a horrible, horrible mistake. But punishing her with her own traumas isn't something we should be doing. Long stoy short, perhaps it's time to be less confronting towards her? She's the current antagonist.. but maybe she doesn't have to be.
There's a chance she's manipulating us. However, her tells give me the impression that isn't the case.
She made a horrible, horrible mistake. But punishing her with her own traumas isn't something we should be doing. Long stoy short, perhaps it's time to be less confronting towards her? She's the current antagonist.. but maybe she doesn't have to be.
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KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
[] Guilt. What did I do?
EDIT: Vote changed.
EDIT: Vote changed.
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- Location
- London
[X] Reconciliation. Please let me help.
I was going to go for Paranoia but @KaintukeeBob convinced me. WWGD?
I was going to go for Paranoia but @KaintukeeBob convinced me. WWGD?