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Dragon Ball: After the End

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Bakkasama said:
Eh, we can do a fighting style around not hurting others. Just use ki blocking for melee and heavy focus on telekinesis to grab the opponents without hurting them and to move their arms so that they miss their ki attacks. Telekinesis also has the advantage that if its strenght depends on power level then it can be used with oozaru and since it is not limited by physical speed it negates the agility malus of that form while taking advantage of the increased power level. Add ki sensing to use it across all the battlefield and some techniques to manouvre and distract so that you can actually catch your opponent and you are Golden. Maybe Four Witches both for ki blocking and grapples.
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...Are you suggesting that the best way for us to design a fighting style that doesn't hurt anyone is to turn into the ultra-super-duper form of the giant monkey form that for most saiyans is uncontrollable and berserk?

Each individual piece of your reasoning sounds pretty good, but the conclusion is just... o_O

It's like "Wait... you turned into the giant monkey form... because you didn't want to hurt anybody. And it worked."
 
Simon_Jester said:
...Are you suggesting that the best way for us to design a fighting style that doesn't hurt anyone is to turn into the ultra-super-duper form of the giant monkey form that for most saiyans is uncontrollable and berserk?

Each individual piece of your reasoning sounds pretty good, but the conclusion is just... o_O

It's like "Wait... you turned into the giant monkey form... because you didn't want to hurt anybody. And it worked."
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If it Works it ain´t stupid and this allow us to use it against stronger opponents.

Also, we are an oddball for a reason.
 
I just like the idea that Kakara's ultimate strategy for defeating super-saiyan level opponents is to turn into a giant ragemonster ape that every saiyan associates with unbridled insanity and ferocity, the saiyan equivalent of a werewolf... And then very placidly plucking them out of the air in an unbreakable telekinetic ape-grip.

:D
 
[X] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
 
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[X] Full Disclosure
[X] Switch my vote to Broad Disclosure if Full Disclosure loses.​
I'm tired of keeping secrets. Crack the egg and spill it all. No more games. Unite the planet, mount a defense.
 
rkyeun said:
[X] Full Disclosure
[X] Switch my vote to Broad Disclosure if Full Disclosure loses.​
I'm tired of keeping secrets. Crack the egg and spill it all. No more games. Unite the planet, mount a defense.
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You know, nested voting is usually frowned upon. In this case it is also unnecesary since those are the leading options so Broad disclosure would probably win if Full disclosure lost even without your vote.
 
[X] Broad disclosure. Give her a filtered version of the events as you know them. You had a Vision a while ago, saying aliens were coming and that they were hostile. Tell her everything through the lens of human ki users being the active parties.
 
So, @Aranfan and @Gore17 IIRC (which I probably am not) one was interested in a pacifist style and the other I know was interested in keeping pacifism but I can't recall if acepted a way to subdue opponents without hurting as non-violent enough or if it broke the spirit of the thing. Any comments on the idea of making a style around Telekinesis, Ki blocking and grappling to get around that?
 
Bakkasama said:
So, @Aranfan and @Gore17 IIRC (which I probably am not) one was interested in a pacifist style and the other I know was interested in keeping pacifism but I can't recall if acepted a way to subdue opponents without hurting as non-violent enough or if it broke the spirit of the thing. Any comments on the idea of making a style around Telekinesis, Ki blocking and grappling to get around that?
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Tien Style First
 
Bakkasama said:
So, @Aranfan and @Gore17 IIRC (which I probably am not) one was interested in a pacifist style and the other I know was interested in keeping pacifism but I can't recall if acepted a way to subdue opponents without hurting as non-violent enough or if it broke the spirit of the thing. Any comments on the idea of making a style around Telekinesis, Ki blocking and grappling to get around that?
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I'm fine with that. Always have a backup plan and all that.

Also, work on Solar Flare.
Krillins new variation is incredibly useful, if apparently a bit draining on the reserves.
 
Sucal said:
Tien Style First
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Actually, it is probably best to work on that at the same time as the Telekinesis, which we would need to do before making the pacifist style. Tien seems useful in that not only has no stylistic weaknesses on hand to hand (which would be useful for ki blocking) but it help on techniques that are worth adding like Four Witches, Multiform and Taioken. The problema is that it doesn't particularly help with the fact that Kakara doesn't like hurting others which is why we should try to get the techniques that allow us to disable without hurting ASAP.

Gore17 said:
I'm fine with that. Always have a backup plan and all that.

Also, work on Solar Flare.
Krillins new variation is incredibly useful, if apparently a bit draining on the reserves.
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KaintukeeBob said:
Ki-ko-blind?

I haven't watched but like, 2 episodes of Super.
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A variant of solar flare that remains in the place you cast it, so you can actually attack or hide while the technique is still active and blinding your opponent.

When I first saw it I was a bit peeved since it was so simple in concept yet so much better than anything I could come up with.
 
Bakkasama said:
Actually, it is probably best to work on that at the same time as the Telekinesis, which we would need to do before making the pacifist style. Tien seems useful in that not only has no stylistic weaknesses on hand to hand (which would be useful for ki blocking) but it help on techniques that are worth adding like Four Witches, Multiform and Taioken. The problema is that it doesn't particularly help with the fact that Kakara doesn't like hurting others which is why we should try to get the techniques that allow us to disable without hurting ASAP.
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Hm. Well, if nothing else, we use Tien Style as the stylistic base, while incorporating the individual techniques we want to learn to give us a groundwork to then create Pacifist Style?

(Though honestly, the talk of how ki-blocking works makes me think that, in and of itself, Piccolo/Demon Style would fit a tad better, but it's pretty clear many people want Tien style as our base due to other techniques and benefits.)
 
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