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Dragon Ball: After the End

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anailater said:
But then you get into the moral issue of killing someone for a crime they haven't committed yet.
I'd be down for trying to change history for the kid so they don't become the enemy, but of course with time travel rules in dragon ball either way it won't help cause it would just create a new timeline and our one would still be fucked.
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Morally, it's a grey area as to whether or not they deserve it. Also morally, it's the right thing to do if it results in less net suffering / greater net happiness. It would be an absolute nightmare of a philosophical decision in real life, though.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
Morally, it's a grey area as to whether or not they deserve it. Also morally, it's the right thing to do if it results in less net suffering / greater net happiness. It would be an absolute nightmare of a philosophical decision in real life, though.
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I certainly agree that if we know doing nothing would lead to the enemy that doing nothing is a horrible choice, I just don't necessarily agree that murder is the right choice.
Perhaps it's as simple as putting them in a different environment, or getting them therapy, or cultivating a love of baking instead of super murder.

Or maybe it's a created machine to end all life, then it becomes both more and less morally gray.

Really like most things it depends on the context that we just don't know
 
anailater said:
I certainly agree that if we know doing nothing would lead to the enemy that doing nothing is a horrible choice, I just don't necessarily agree that murder is the right choice.
Perhaps it's as simple as putting them in a different environment, or getting them therapy, or cultivating a love of baking instead of super murder.

Or maybe it's a created machine to end all life, then it becomes both more and less morally gray.

Really like most things it depends on the context that we just don't know
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Oh yeah, given the ability to Butterfly away pretty much everything if you try hard enough, I doubt you'd have to kill anyone unless it turns out some people are just born evil - which whilst certainly not the case in real life, might be in some fictional settings.
 
All this reminds me that one very important future step is that Kakara reaches out to the real higher-ups of the DBZ universe. Aka, the Supreme Kais, the Gods of Destruction, and the folks up in Heaven that somehow have no problems with containing two of the most powerful warriors in existence. The Enemy doesn't sound like someone that a lot of them would want to be around, and the entire benefit of our Communication is networking.

Also, I need to read the scene of Future!Kakara mind projecting or something into Heaven and getting to meet Tien in person. Her fangirling a bit over meeting the person she has studied and emulated for so many years, him meeting the powerful and respected Lady Goku who chose his style of all possible choices to emulate.

Also want to see her meeting Goku and Vegeta themselves.
 
Okay, I'm setting this aside for the night. I'm going to end up putting more time and brainspace into the update commentary than I am the update itself at this rate. Although I suspect that investment may be needed, for this one.

See you tomorrow, folks.
 
Sucal said:
The enemy also assimilates things it considers useful.

One miss and the enemy becomes even more invincible.
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Okay, but if you don't have a weapon capable of putting an end to the Enemy, ultimately it won't matter whether you have failed to make it invincible or not. It's "vincible," in that it can be conquered somehow... but you don't have the means to conquer it with.

Ultimately, if you're trying to confront an enemy rather than hide from them, your first priority must always be intelligence as to the nature of the enemy, and your second priority must always be a weapon capable of harming them.

If all you want to do is hide, you can skip number two.
 
So we fuse the enemy with something useless. Curse one kami earring to attach it self to the enemy and attach the other to something extremely useless.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Okay, but if you don't have a weapon capable of putting an end to the Enemy, ultimately it won't matter whether you have failed to make it invincible or not. It's "vincible," in that it can be conquered somehow... but you don't have the means to conquer it with.

Ultimately, if you're trying to confront an enemy rather than hide from them, your first priority must always be intelligence as to the nature of the enemy, and your second priority must always be a weapon capable of harming them.

If all you want to do is hide, you can skip number two.
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Thing is, these guys always have some secret silly weakness that they can't really overcome. Achilles being a prime example. Lance through the heart? He laughs while he kills you. Cut off his head? He puts it back on, then laughs and kills you. Arrow to the heel? Falls. Over. Dead. Seriously, WTF?
 
Speaking of the enemy, has anyone mentioned the possibility of it being
Monaka
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