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Ugh, why does thinking someone is pretty immediately have to mean that they have a crush? That just seems like a part of her admiration for Karen and nothing more, gods.
Because we are ten and we have a right to be immature and tease our Friends if we want to!

Oh wait, you are serious. I thought we were joking about the crush. At least that is what I got from the argument.
As yuri being honestly the most irritating that usually happens in things with a female protagonist on SV and SB, I'm sorry if I'll have to ask you to forgive my paranoia.
SB and SV do seem to love the idea of being in lesbians overmuch. Fortunately, it seems like Kakara is going to be at least bi and possibly even straight, going by the visions we've seen thus far.
I can confirm I'm not taking it seriously, and simply think teasing would be fun.
 
I'm mostly wondering why he didn't wish Shenron to move everyone to a safe planet instead
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Thats how they got rid of the filthy slugs Namekians!
"I am the Eternal Dragon! State your wish and... Oh. It's you guys again. What have you done this time?"
"We're in danger here and we want to all move to a new planet that will be safe."
"That is not within my power."
"Bullshit! You made a new planet for the Namekians!"
"Oh, no, that part's fine. I can make you a planet. But you're assuming there is anything such as "safe" to be had. I can make you a planet. I can put you on it. I can fling it into deep space at a huge fraction of lightspeed. Now what would that say about the capabilities of the next race to find you and catch up with you?"
"They'd be... even worse?"
"Bingo. You want to be safe? Fine. I can blow you all up right now and send you to the afterlife. King Yemma does a good job, and if you get killed in Heaven, where you gonna go? Back in line for King Yemma. You wanna die now, mortal?"
"Uh... no, no. Just put us on a good world far away from any powerful enemies so we have time to tech ourselves up?"
"Muuuuch better. Your wish is granted! Next time try taking the dragonballs with you, though. Suckers. BYE! Now I can finally get some sleep!"
 
She probably wouldn't have been upset at the thought of ghost-Grandpa the way she is about 'Super Mechanic Man'!
But Super Mechanic Man is a friend of the children! Except for Jaffur, but he is weird.

Has anyone considered how Maya is going to react when her planet gets invaded by ki users in a few months? Kakara is still a newish friend and it's damned suspicious that she, by Maya's perceptions, showed up only a little bit before.
Aliens look like aliens. Kakara looks like Maya, who also has superpowers. That one worry is a bit out there as is most of the others.

This is not how you do worst case scenarios. Worst case, it turns out that she is part of a hidden cadre of Saiyans not known by Saiyan society at large, and they've targeted the scion for manipulation or subversion
Kind of like Fennella? *Gasp* They must be in cahoots with each other!

Worst case, she's a Saiyan and is going to get an eyefull of powerball or moon during the stressful invasion, regrow her tail, transform, cause people to wonder if Kakara and anybody else knew, and trigger mind delves everywhere
If she were, we would have had no way of knowing and no reason to hide it if we had so it wouldn't trigger mind delve. And if the saiyans were throwing powerballs then they would have bigger things to worry about than Maya.

Worst case, she tries to resist the invasion, which leads to the same conclusion.
That would be a bit more concerning if not for the fact that, if the Garenhulders have to defend themselves then they would see the saiyans and the masquerade would be blowed anyways so it would be a moot point to do mind delves at that point.

Worst case, she freaks out during the invasion and one of the Saiyans hunting for invaders kills her because they don't know any better and Garenhuld humans shouldn't have noticeable power levels.

They are more likely to confuse her with a saiyan and when in doubt, she doesn't have a power level high enough not to be simply knocked out by them. Plus she is obviously a child and would wear no armor or uniform.

Worst case, the ten-year-old gets rash while surrounded by intense monitoring because of Jaron and starts saying things she doesn't even know she shouldn't.
Then we tell her to keep quiet about it unless we are sure we are alone? She is ten, not an idiot.

She's kept her secret for a while, but she's a growing, changing child who clearly wants to share it, and her entire world is about to be rocked

Wants to share it with the other one with powers. She might want to share it with her other Friends now that she did with us but it is now our secret instead of just hers so she wouldn't so it without consulting us first and if she expects us not to tell our dad, who is like us and already knows about us then she should know better than telling about us to others.

This kid doesn't even know about ki sensing and may give herself away while thinking she's safely isolated.
This is pretty much the one that worries me the most. I mean, Kakara is a ki sensing Prodigy so she should notice before anyone else and help keep that in check but she can't always be with her. Fortunately, it seems that to most saiyans the low hundreds doesn't really register to them unless she is glowing right in front of them

@PoptartProdigy does the ki of masqued saiyan feel like the one of humans since the masque turns them into them? Because if so, they are more likely to think she is a saiyan child playing in the Woods until she is right in front of them. That is actually how she went about undetected until now.

Zeus and Hades, the girl is about to hit puberty. Saying, "She's had a handle on it so far," really isn't compelling.

While it does make you more impulsive and prone to bouts of idiocy, it doesn't completely overwrites your personality and Maya is not inclined to being the center of attention since she associates that with her stutter and embarrasment.

Really, those are kind of weak worse case scenarios. If you want to worry about unlikely events, worry about her noticing that Jaron is stronger than a normal kid his age and testing him like she did us.
 
But Super Mechanic Man is a friend of the children! Except for Jaffur, but he is weird.


Aliens look like aliens. Kakara looks like Maya, who also has superpowers. That one worry is a bit out there as is most of the others.


Kind of like Fennella? *Gasp* They must be in cahoots with each other!


If she were, we would have had no way of knowing and no reason to hide it if we had so it wouldn't trigger mind delve. And if the saiyans were throwing powerballs then they would have bigger things to worry about than Maya.


That would be a bit more concerning if not for the fact that, if the Garenhulders have to defend themselves then they would see the saiyans and the masquerade would be blowed anyways so it would be a moot point to do mind delves at that point.



They are more likely to confuse her with a saiyan and when in doubt, she doesn't have a power level high enough not to be simply knocked out by them. Plus she is obviously a child and would wear no armor or uniform.


Then we tell her to keep quiet about it unless we are sure we are alone? She is ten, not an idiot.



Wants to share it with the other one with powers. She might want to share it with her other Friends now that she did with us but it is now our secret instead of just hers so she wouldn't so it without consulting us first and if she expects us not to tell our dad, who is like us and already knows about us then she should know better than telling about us to others.


This is pretty much the one that worries me the most. I mean, Kakara is a ki sensing Prodigy so she should notice before anyone else and help keep that in check but she can't always be with her. Fortunately, it seems that to most saiyans the low hundreds doesn't really register to them unless she is glowing right in front of them

@PoptartProdigy does the ki of masqued saiyan feel like the one of humans since the masque turns them into them? Because if so, they are more likely to think she is a saiyan child playing in the Woods until she is right in front of them. That is actually how she went about undetected until now.



While it does make you more impulsive and prone to bouts of idiocy, it doesn't completely overwrites your personality and Maya is not inclined to being the center of attention since she associates that with her stutter and embarrasment.

Really, those are kind of weak worse case scenarios. If you want to worry about unlikely events, worry about her noticing that Jaron is stronger than a normal kid his age and testing him like she did us.

We know that there is at least one human among the invasion force. If news gets out among the the Garenhulders Maya may well start asking questions. If it becomes clear that there were ki-users already on the planet and in some way related to the invasion Maya may start talking to people, which gets back to the wrong people, which makes the wrong people start asking questions.

Fennella is a known Saiyan. Maya is an unknown Saiyan. If there is indeed a population of such Saiyans it means that they are keeping their very existence secret. So, no, not like Fennella.

"Bigger things to worry about," doesn't mean, "never investigate," especially if it ends up being the acute cause of the breakdown of the masquerade. Maya has direct connections to both scions. If what she is gets out the very first thing that happens is a mind-delve because,"who is this kid, where did she come from, and what the hell just happened?", which tells everybody that Kakara knew and kept it secret, which in this hypothetical means that Kakara is responsible for the destruction of the masquerade.

The Garenhulders learning that aliens exist doesn't inherently mean the end of the masquerade. The issue is whether or not they learn that there have been Saiyans living among them. Maya is known to both the Saiyans and the Garenhuldian humans. If she reveals herself she lets both sides know that there is something more going on. Nevermind that Maya thinks of herself as invincible and abilities as superpowers, much less that ten-year-olds tend to get unpredictable when the bombs start dropping.

Likely isn't certain, especially if they're following the most basic security procedures and using an IFF signal she hasn't been told about. We don't know if the invaders even have uniforms, and it's hardly unreasonable to expect them to have some infiltration units.

She's ten. That means she's an idiot. Most adults can't be safely assumed not to be idiots at these stakes. Not only that, she's an idiot being denied the context to even judge what actions are idiotic, and about to be thrown into a global multi-lateral alien invasion amidst a simmering alien civil war while being known by all sides to be directly connected to the two most important personalities.

I am in awe at your ability to predict with absolute certainty the fickle whims of an isolated, neurotic, peripubescent child in an active war zone who only hasn't continued telling her soon-to-be-first-hand-witnesses-people about her abilities because they don't believe her and hasn't even been told why keeping a particular secret is important.


Yes, I was about to point out another failure-mode: she noticed Kakara due to sparing with her. The exact same sparing we have invited Jaron to join the group in.
 
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Just got back from work, only had enough time to see the update. Annnd going straight to mentioning Dad was probably a bad idea. Sparring a bit then de-escalating seems to have worked at least.

I've only skimmed most of the discussion, and it seems like some people want to keep this from Dad. I am kinda torn on this. Best case scenario, we convinve Maya it's best if we tell him, as I don't see any way in which hiding this goes well. As much as I would like to keep Maya's secret (shouldshe wish that), the Masquerade and our people comes first. Considering her current and potential power, she's not going to be hiding it for long, especially since there's no way Maya's not going to be using her powers.

Of the two plans I like Open and Honest the most, but I don't want to promise to not tell Dad, as that would mean we either have to lie to him, or break our promise, neither of which I want to do.
[X] Plan: Open and honest
[X] Ask Maya what's wrong.
-[X] In fact, hug her again. Couldn't hurt.
--[X] We thought she was keeping it a secret because no-one else could do this, and told us because we can... so we figured she'd be happy to tell Dad since he can do it too.
---[X] If she insists, then we won't insist...
----[X] ...But now we're worried about having told her that Dad can do it too without him knowing. It's a secret to everyone!

-----[X] If everything is said, done, and resolved, tease her. "So...you think I'm pretty?"
Any chance you'd be willing to remove the highlighted lines? I'd be willing to vote for this if we don't promise anything just yet. We can at least wait until Maya's explained a bit more.
 
I've only skimmed most of the discussion, and it seems like some people want to keep this from Dad. I am kinda torn on this. Best case scenario, we convinve Maya it's best if we tell him, as I don't see any way in which hiding this goes well. As much as I would like to keep Maya's secret (shouldshe wish that), the Masquerade and our people comes first. Considering her current and potential power, she's not going to be hiding it for long, especially since there's no way Maya's not going to be using her powers.
Maya isn't a threat to the Masquerade, though.
 
Maya isn't a threat to the Masquerade, though.
We know that. If other Saiyans find out about her, they might/will think that. It's probably more likely that some other Saiyan find's out about Maya (through Ki sensing or whatever), then calls it in. We need to get our side of the story in first. If Jaron's spending more time with the Misfits, one of his watchers is probably going to notice something eventually. SHould probably have made that more clear in my post.
 
We definitely need to talk to dad about this at the soonest available opportunity. There's just too much about this situation we don't know. We don't even know if this thing has happened before, after all.
 
We know that. If other Saiyans find out about her, they might/will think that. It's probably more likely that some other Saiyan find's out about Maya (through Ki sensing or whatever), then calls it in. We need to get our side of the story in first. If Jaron's spending more time with the Misfits, one of his watchers is probably going to notice something eventually. SHould probably have made that more clear in my post.
Then we tell Berra if the watcherss discover her. Assuming we can explain why we don't think she's a threat to the Masquerade, I think he'll accept us hiding her existence, and the watchers would report her to either Dandeer (who'd tell Berra), Berra or both.

Worst that will happen is that we get a scolding, but not telling Berra about her isn't going against our duty.
 
Just got back from work, only had enough time to see the update. Annnd going straight to mentioning Dad was probably a bad idea. Sparring a bit then de-escalating seems to have worked at least.

I've only skimmed most of the discussion, and it seems like some people want to keep this from Dad. I am kinda torn on this. Best case scenario, we convinve Maya it's best if we tell him, as I don't see any way in which hiding this goes well. As much as I would like to keep Maya's secret (shouldshe wish that), the Masquerade and our people comes first. Considering her current and potential power, she's not going to be hiding it for long, especially since there's no way Maya's not going to be using her powers.

Of the two plans I like Open and Honest the most, but I don't want to promise to not tell Dad, as that would mean we either have to lie to him, or break our promise, neither of which I want to do.

Any chance you'd be willing to remove the highlighted lines? I'd be willing to vote for this if we don't promise anything just yet. We can at least wait until Maya's explained a bit more.

Nope, sorry - I want to try and convince her, but not push her or force the issue immediately. While this very much has the potential to blow up in our faces (I just don't buy those arguments that Berra wouldn't be willing to Mind Delve us), we can always just try to persuade her.
 
Worst that will happen is that we get a scolding, but not telling Berra about her isn't going against our duty.
I disagree on that point. I think we could get Berra to agree to keeping it secret for now, and it wold be a lot easier to keep it secret with his help, but straight up not telling him about her I think is going against our duty, in spirit if not in letter.
Nope, sorry - I want to try and convince her, but not push her or force the issue immediately. While this very much has the potential to blow up in our faces (I just don't buy those arguments that Berra wouldn't be willing to Mind Delve us), we can always just try to persuade her.
---[] If she insists, then we won't insist...
----[] ...But now we're worried about having told her that Dad can do it too without him knowing. It's a secret to everyone!

Wait, I think I might be misunderstanding your intent with these lines. Are you saying we won't press the issue on telling Dad, or are you saying we'll promise not to tell Dad?
EDIT: On the Mind Delve, I figure there's a lot less chance of him doing it if we tell him of our own accord. Bonus points if we do it right after we finish this conversation, but I could see an argument being made for waiting a bit, especially if we use that time to try and convinve Maya to let us tell him.
 
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I disagree on that point. I think we could get Berra to agree to keeping it secret for now, and it wold be a lot easier to keep it secret with his help, but straight up not telling him about her I think is going against our duty, in spirit if not in letter.

---[] If she insists, then we won't insist...
----[] ...But now we're worried about having told her that Dad can do it too without him knowing. It's a secret to everyone!

Wait, I think I might be misunderstanding your intent with these lines. Are you saying we won't press the issue on telling Dad, or are you saying we'll promise not to tell Dad?
The intent of the vote was to explain why we think she ought to let us tell Dad, attempt to convince her relatively gently, but ultimately promise to go with whatever her ultimate decision is - though we can certainly try to tempt/persuade her later. I mean, if we really insisted she couldn't actually stop us, but that would be a pretty huge dick move.
 
The intent of the vote was to explain why we think she ought to let us tell Dad, attempt to convince her relatively gently, but ultimately promise to go with whatever her ultimate decision is - though we can certainly try to tempt/persuade her later. I mean, if we really insisted she couldn't actually stop us, but that would be a pretty huge dick move.
Fair enough. I had it in my head that the promise would be some inviolate thing.

[X] Plan: Open and honest
 
As yuri being honestly the most irritating that usually happens in things with a female protagonist on SV and SB, I'm sorry if I'll have to ask you to forgive my paranoia.

I do have a wide and varied array of sexualities and gender identities on display in this quest. Gay women. Bi people. Asexual people. Transgender folk of every description. I even have a fair few gay men running around, which is nearly unheard-of here. It's just not something I'm treating as a huge deal. As for whether Maya is crushing on Kakara, they're ten. Close friendships and romance often look the same at that age. You honestly won't have enough data to tell if she's attracted for a couple of years, and I reserve the right to let my characters write their own sexualities anyway, so it may even change.

@PoptartProdigy, do any of the Misfits have any siblings?

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Oh, and how long is the vote going to last this time?

Some, yes.

Probably through today, but it depends on how conversation is going. After last time I'm afraid of announcing an end time for fear of discussion dying off all in a rush like last time.

@PoptartProdigy does the ki of masqued saiyan feel like the one of humans since the masque turns them into them? Because if so, they are more likely to think she is a saiyan child playing in the Woods until she is right in front of them. That is actually how she went about undetected until now.

It does. You feel like a human when you're Masqued.
 
Clearly, we need to invite Maya to join our Superhero Team which our dad leads which is why it's okay to tell him.
 
Ugh, why does thinking someone is pretty immediately have to mean that they have a crush? That just seems like a part of her admiration for Karen and nothing more, gods.
We're not teasing her for having a crush on us, we're teasing her for calling us pretty. You know, responding to the platonic thing she said and acting like it's a romantic thing even though it's not for comedic effect.
 
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I've already established im super down for this.

Hell if everything goes wrong and humans see some of the alien threat, then superheroes is a much better alternative for most than the masque being broken.

We can introduce the world to the S-Men! Gifted with the power of flight, amazing senses, super strength, and the ability to fire lasers from various parts of their bodies!
 
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