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Contacting Jaffur requires an action because it'll involve quite a few failed attempts even on a successful action, eating up substantial portions of time.
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Contacting Jaffur requires an action because it'll involve quite a few failed attempts even on a successful action, eating up substantial portions of time.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Why do you seem to believe that you'll be able to get us to vote for raising grades next time when I failed to do so?
Let's ask Poptart: @PoptartProdigy If we succeed both the "beg sensei to teach us" and "best fit" can we attempt to contact Jaffur during a sleepover? Would it require an action or can I just append it to my plan?
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It's not my plan you're asking to change, but I'd point out if we did that we'd be doing it with no warning or input for or from our allies.
That should be the beauty of it (from your point of view) - slipping a grade means that, in order to appease Mom and Dad, we will have to put more time into studying! Probably with Mom! EDIT: Obviously, we'd only be raising the grade if we slipped this time though; otherwise, grade-raising gets deferred until we do slip (or a ridiculous chain of slacking successes, indicating we're some kind of coasting savant, I guess).
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Aranfan
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Given how much tenshinhan style should help us with getting extra actions out of multiform, since I'll remind you that mastery of a style involving those techniques is the only way we currently know of to unlock the last two tiers of skill (elite and legendary), I feel strongly against doing so. Especially as it'll be a wasted action if we fail to convince Sensei to teach us mind projection.
I will also ask you what made you change from my plan to the other plan, given neither addresses this point and both try to learn mind projection.
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My feminine wiles, naturally. NOTE: I am not actually a girl.
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Because currently we have a bunch of actions we pretty much have to take (most of them related to Jaffur) and also other social actions we won't have to take again. When we've contacted Jaffur (and dealt with Maya and Mato) we'll have a lot more free actions, so personally I'd care enough about school to let it influence my vote.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
So is it the ki manipulation, the examined life, or the telepathy that is more attractive to you? Because as far as I can tell in terms of "things we need to do for helping Jaffur" Deathbybunnies doesn't actually do more than I do.
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Telepathy is being used for covert communications, such as safely contacting the Senzus. And this rebellion is going to require a lot of willpower checks once it gets underway. EDIT: It also seems like Telepathy might have some similarities with Mind Projection? But that's a bit dubious.
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That's why I suggested making it conditional on learning Mind Projection.
Because I think two actions on Tenshinham Style is a waste, sorry. Also, going to bed now.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
There is zero indication in DBZ that Telepathy is that long range.
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The wiki disagrees with you:
Telepathy
EDIT: Holy shit, I just read that it got used in several cases just to straight-up read someone's mind. I am so glad I held on to this as hard as I did!
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Aranfan
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That is the fucking King Kai! Litterally none of the other characters who can do telepathy have range that good, unless they are piggy backing on him. The next highest range is Bibbadi, and every else needs to be in the same room if not physically touching. We would need to sink a shit ton of actions into it for it to let us contact people we can't just talk to.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
That's the mind delve. Poptart split them up for some reason.
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Not true - "Piccolo is able to talk to Goten and Trunks while they are in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber during the Fusion Saga, despite him being outside of it."
That's a fair distance at least (though within the same enormous building, and across the wacky time stuff) and I'm not familiar enough with the other examples to recognise their ranges, though King Kai's example while probably not doable does show there's no theoretical limit - compared to the universe, what's a single planet?
Awww, snap. I got all excited. Still, the two techniques are clearly related; learning one would likely be a bonus to learning the other...
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
I will point out that King Kai probably knows magic, given his place in the cosmic hierachry, and everyone who doesn't need touch other than Roshi and the Crane School people knows magic. Roshi mind delving Namu and talking with Tenshinhan and Crane Hermit during 22nd budokai are the biggest ranges we have outside of magic users. None of them are high enough to make it useful for our plotting.
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The magic point is well-made, but you're forgetting one example - our Grandma! She sensed us from outside the training hall across a massive crowd of people, and called us over.
EDIT: Wait, except for the example of Piccolo I made earlier.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Piccolo knows magic. That's what the clothes beam is.
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How awesome is telepathy anyway?
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By that time Piccolo had re-merged with Kami, and could likely do at least some magic. Also, he was, if less powerful, more experience and skilled than we are.
And our grandmother's a FPSSJ, so she likely could "overpower" the "noise" of the room.
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Pretty damn. As ki goes, it's very discreet and focused, and offers unmatched communication abilities when you wish to avoid being overheard. Mind Delve is technically the same skill, but exclusively one-way and intrusive. Different in application, different execution.
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I was not familiar with this. I assume King Piccolo is assumed to have magic too, then.
...A clothes beam? Magic is weird.
Assuming that didn't compromise the message's security (and none of the crowd were noted to have reacted) adding the power of a FPSSJ isn't a problem for us.
Aranfan
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I kinda meant like, range wise and stuff.
Aranfan
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It's easily Piccolo's most metro attack.
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Awesome! So if we learn one, we can sort-of do the other, or at least it'll make it much easier to learn?
This is important for communicating in space too, which was another use we come up with earlier, so the question is doubly important.
That sword is a pretty sweet accessory.
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I get you feel differently, but I maintain she's not; she's just working so hard in other areas this particular one might suffer.I don't want Kakara to be a slacker.
