Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
reading Days of Future Past does something
I'm doing it, but nothing is happening.
Dragon Ball: After the End
I'm doing it, but nothing is happening.
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I respectfully disagree with you on several points.
[ ] Loose Lips Lead To Ultimate Power (1 action) is just... dangerous, with no real gain. I mean, we get to let them in on the secret, but that'll just get us and them into trouble. Maybe after the Masquerade eventually collapses?
[ ] Command Training (1 action) While a good choice, that this is your only combat choice is a dangerous decision given how we're about to have a war. Besides which, it means that if we fail that roll, all of our hard-earned skills actually degrade, which is frankly an unacceptable risk.
[ ] Train With Sensei (1 action)
[ ] Beg Sensei To Teach You [Mind Projection] (1 action)
These two double up on our seer training, which while not bad isn't worth it when we're so action-starved.
[ ] Socialize! (1 action, may be taken multiple times)
-[ ] Betarel
-[ ] Fenella
While both things I'd like to see, given that we won't be neglecting them by not choosing actions about them (we'll still do friends stuff, just not enough to actively increase our relationship status) we have more important things to spend actions on. Also, socialising with Betarel risks giving the Senzus away and getting them all killed, so there's that.
[ ] Sound Out Sensei (1 action)
This is a huge risk; just by making this decision we'll effectively be telling him everything ahead of time. What if he tells Dad?
I realise this is a long list of disagreements, but I promise I'm not having a go at you. I would actually like to do some of the things I've "disagreed" with, I just don't think we can afford the actions with various shades of Doom hanging over us (The Rebellion, The War, The Enemy in the long term).
Aww come on man, I proved that was the wrong choice with *MATHS* and everything!
Sucal
The Devil’s Cut
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Yeah but your solution doesn't involve learning a new educated skill on top of that.
The more time shes spending keeping her grades despite slacking, the less time shes spent increasing her medicine skill as under my plan! Keeping her grades up feeds into learning medicine, as it keeps her 'scholastic' ablities intact!
Sucal
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Both are equally important if we want to keep our place in the group.
Especially since Maya is seeming more and more like either another Saiyan or some other important person
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We aren't making an effort to exclude him, he'll be fine. In fact we'll be perfectly friendly! You don't have to go out of your way to cater to somebody just to get along with them, all this means is that our relationship status will stay the same instead of increasing a grade. It's really not a big deal, and if we decide later on we do want to be best buds, we can do that! In a few turns, when we hopefully have more actions and less Doom.
You don't spend more time slacking man. That's like literally the opposite of how it works. You are literally taking the choice to take more time maintaining her grades.
EDIT: I like the idea of going for Ki Healing eventually, but like it or not we are the strongest fighter on the planet. We have a duty to fight as well as we can in this upcoming war, lest some of them escape and we trigger the countdown on The Enemy's arrival and our Doom.
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Sucal
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I'm trying to do more then maintain her grades, I'm trying to maintain her ablitiy as a Scholar!
If you slack off at such formative years, you develop bad habits for later in life!
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shit we havent hit that arc yet have we
Sucal
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Baka idiot slacker GM
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Counterpoint: We are spending every second of every day eking out time to learn and train. We are doing this so much that we are actively using multiform to keep up with all our commitments. We may not be spending as much time on school as possible (and we will more-likely-than-not maintain our grades and it is a primary school) but one thing we are absolutely not doing is forming habits as a slacker.
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By the time the Masquerade collapses, it'd be too late. You want to do the ultra-important survival preparation before the Apocalypse afterall.
It's the most I could fit into the plan, honestly.
I disagree. Training our Seer ability, and specifically learning Mind Projection so we can communicate with Jaffur, are extremely important, more so then our hand-to-hand skills.
Fenella is basically necessity IMO, as it'll give us an idea of what's happening with the Peats, and strengthen our ties with their next leader. Betarel I was iffy about, but establishing close ties to him would probably be worth it, though it's the part I'm least attached to.
We kinda have to hope he won't. And honestly, as a Seer, he probably already knows, simply from our future attempts to free Jaffur and the repercussions of that. Or, you know, from us meeting with the Senzu.
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@PoptartProdigy, the OP implies that our family would be useful, but they've so far been not only been utterly useless but actually hindrances in the form of Dad and Mato. When are we going to start seeing the benefits of having them?
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Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
We are apparently voting now. Even though it has not yet been 12 hours. @PoptartProdigy Is this kosher? Or will these votes not be counted?
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Accident on my part. Was typing it up so I can copy+paste later. Force of habit made me post it.
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There's not going to be an Apocalypse if we don't slack off on our training and stop the invaders from breaking the Masquerade!
Yes, we are incredibly action-starved compared to all we want to do. This doesn't mean we just say "well, we'll ignore the world-saving stuff and our responsibilities for making new friends!" We already have friends! We like them!
Sure they're important, but they're not more important than keeping our skills up. I'm not saying we drop both of them, just that we drop regular seer training. Failing to convince Sensei to teach us Mind Projection just changes that choice to regular seer training.
We're maintaining our friendship with both of them by default, we're just not becoming BFFS just yet - we can do that on less action-starved turns. And we frankly don't need to know what's going on with the Peats all that much.
No we don't, we can just not tell him. He doesn't know to look for us rebelling, and even if he saw something it wouldn't be us explaining our entire plot.
Do the exiles even know Cell's stuff?
We're a ki sensor - a really good one. Why would we need this?
I mean, being on good terms with the Lord Goku is probably helpful in a whole bunch of ways. And Mato is more "not actively working against us" given his age.
Also, I notice you haven't gone for The Examined Life (Driven). Did you change your mind?
Overall, I just feel like you guys are voting for all the extraneous "it would be nice if we could have this" stuff and not the "well, this way our entire race isn't exterminated by the end of the quest" stuff. This quest's writing style isn't grimdark to read, but the underlying tone of the quest as a whole and the facts of our situation? We are absolutely in a lot of trouble, racing against clocks we can and can't see, and all of our friends are going to die anyway if we screw up. Doing anything less than our personal best to address these threats is a terrible idea.
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Sucal
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They know of it, but they don't know how to do it.
Thats why its a research Item (checked with Poptart)
Because I'm working towards getting us Ki Healing. Ki sight would basically function a lot like the Byakugan, making both an excellent way to use our seer powers to find people (even if they are potentially shielding) AND work to make healing better once we get it, since we can pinpoint and treat exactly the injury and nothing else.
Plus it means if we try and develop a non lethal style, it makes hitting pressure points or Ki points easier.
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...You know, I only now just realized the significance of Kakara's brother being named 'Mato'.
Kudos to you, @PoptartProdigy.
Kudos to you, @PoptartProdigy.
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Neat. I fully support learning this at some point, just not right now. If nothing else, training our own multiform up first will make this easier.
Sounds cool, but I think we have more important stuff in the short term. And given how Senzu Beans just fix everything, I think Ki Healing won't necessarily require that level of precision. Also, did you check this one with @PoptartProdigy ?
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Our father would be the Lord Goku regardless. It's who he is, not what he is, that we were promised was going to be a good thing, and instead has turned out to be rather bad. Not only was it because of him that Jaffur was sealed but we had to spend two actions on him just to get him up to Strong. A less caring father (one who starts at Strong) who was less stupid and destructive in his decisions would've been preferable. Then it wouldn't have cost us two actions on him specifically plus all the ones dealing with the Sealing.
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Sucal
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Sucal
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The other Alternate would have been having Vegeta Vegeta as a father.
In which case we'd be spending twenty actions to get away from 'personal punching bag'
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No, I just said what the alternative could've been: a father who started out with a Strong relationship with us instead of Best but who wasn't as much of a colossal fuck-up as the one we were given. A neutral force in our life rather than the negative one that is Berra.
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Or, you know, enough actions to get us strong enough to kill the fucker.
Sucal
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The options were specifically comparing them to each other.
On one hand we have Berra, who we made into an enemy by rejecting him and not helping seal Jaffur.
On the other hand we would have bad Dandelion and Vegeta Vegeta of Vegeta
*insert Bender laughing gif*
Perhaps not now, with these invaders, but it's going to happen eventually. I guarantee it.
Allow me to clarify on my position: learning more techniques and improving our skills will not massively help one-way or another with the scouting force, and we have years to prepare for the main invasion force. I would prefer to get these out of the way, so we can focus on other stuff over the next two years.
Where does it say that? And even if true, that means we grind up our Seer skill even more, allowing us to reach the point of Mind Projection quicker.
We need him to teach us Mind Projection. And quite frankly, if he's not keeping an eye on us and what we'll be doing in the future, I would be completely shocked.
I feel the opposite, that you're monofocusing on something to the point we fail in other areas. I'm not happy about slacking off with our studies either incidentally.