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Dragon Ball: After the End

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PoptartProdigy said:
Garenhulders.

That is the only thing in all of the above post that requires responding to. Yes. :lol
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Thank you for that edifying response! I feel more equipped to deal with the situation at hand already!

Andres110 said:
Perhaps we should do The Examined Life on Driven? It gives us an extra action per turn so developing it will probably give us another action as well as more willpower.
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I would be pleasantly surprised if that gave us an extra action, but if people think it's likely and worth pursuing, I'll find a way to include it.

I have to change the plan again? I got the extra action! I got blood from that stone!
 
Okay, so if we were to do The Examined Life (Driven), what if we dropped Best Fit? We're still being friendly, and Jaron is extremely unlikely to fail at integrating himself into our friends circle; our other, less-desperately-strapped-for-time friends will no doubt take care of that. We would still be maintaining our relationship with him and our other friends by default (and more, with Maya and Nosy Little Girl). (Note: I would not be considering this if the QM hadn't confirmed we don't neglect our friends by not taking action points explicitly about them).
 
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Deathbybunnies said:
Sure, but it's been established that a group of weaker fighters can defeat a Super Saiyan already in this quest - in fact, it's been established a single regular Saiyan could do it. And we don't just have to beat the entire army of unknown strength coming our way, we have to crush it so badly there's no survivors, no escapees, no last-minute-transmissions telling other people about us... all without letting the Garenhuldians (Garenhulders? I think I keep using different terms...) notice the massive armada-annihilating space battle.

This isn't a trivial threat.
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We have four FPSS, which means their Power level surpass the billion units. Our average warrior has a power level of 3 million when Ginyu was considered a monster at 120 thousand. Saiyans have been reproducing for over two hundred years and they likely outnumber the invaders. If not for the chance of them getting a transmission off I would feel pity for those bastards. Unfortunatly for them, we could probably IT into their ships before they realize anything is wrong.
PoptartProdigy said:
Later. For now it's not something Kakara even has any reason to speculate over. That said, I've little doubt that you all will try to move the action off of Garenhuld and beyond the Masquerade at some point, so once you get closer to the point where it could start to become a plot point (if, again, it's a thing), she may begin to speculate.
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So... if we manage to get to space exploration we could shift the paradigm from not searching strnger transformations to not transforming anywhere near Garenhuld since people would know there are saiyan survivors but not where?
 
Andres110 said:
The people we saw were the dictators. The highest ranking people are always the most powerful.
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Gero was weaker than his creations. Brolly was stronger than his father. Bibbidi and Babbidi were weaker than any of their henchmen. Gohan was stronger than Piccolo, Goku, or Krillin. Guildo was scrub except for the special ability that made him an asymmetric threat. The androids were more dangerous than simple power level would seem to indicate because the couldn't be sensed, never tired, possessed incredible self-destructs, and some could not only negate, but feed off ki blasts. Nail was stronger than Guru. Whis is stronger than Beerus.
 
Nathaniel Wolff said:
The first assumption you made is that any of the people in the vision were the strongest ones the army had.
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Bakkasama said:
We have four FPSS, which means their Power level surpass the billion units. Our average warrior has a power level of 3 million when Ginyu was considered a monster at 120 thousand. Saiyans have been reproducing for over two hundred years and they likely outnumber the invaders. If not for the chance of them getting a transmission off I would feel pity for those bastards. Unfortunatly for them, we could probably IT into their ships before they realize anything is wrong.
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We don't have nearly enough information to make those assumptions, and I don't think preventing information loss will be nearly as simple as you think given ships capable of FTL.

Bakkasama said:
So... if we manage to get to space exploration we could shift the paradigm from not searching strnger transformations to not transforming anywhere near Garenhuld since people would know there are saiyan survivors but not where?
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We'd have to go really far away though; if we were even in this quarter of the Galaxy, the Enemy would still have some idea of where to search. And it would still give away the fact that there are still super Saiyans out there.

Lailoken said:
Gero was weaker than his creations. Brolly was stronger than his father. Bibbidi and Babbidi were weaker than any of their henchmen. Gohan was stronger than Piccolo, Goku, or Krillin. Guildo was scrub except for the special ability that made him an asymmetric threat. The androids were more dangerous than simple power level would seem to indicate because the couldn't be sensed, never tired, possessed incredible self-destructs, and some could not only negate, but feed off ki blasts. Nail was stronger than Guru. Whis is stronger than Beerus.
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I have no idea how I missed all those!
 
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Plan Deathbybunnies V5

Masquerade
[ ] Slack (1 action)
[ ] Nosy Little Girl (1 action)
2/13

A Warrior's Path
[ ] Train Ki Manipulation (2 actions)
[ ] Command Training (1 action)
5/13

Style Training
[ ] Train Style [Tenshinhan] (1 action)
[ ] Train Specific Skill (1 action, may be taken multiple times) Multiform
7/13

The Mysteries
[ ] Beg Sensei To Teach You [Write-In Specific Technique] (1 action) Mind Projection
8/13

The Pulse of Life
[ ] Family First (1 action)
[ ] A Scion's Duties III (1 action)
10/13

Breaking the Seal
[ ] Get Organized (1 action)
11/13

Personal
[ ] New Tricks (1 action) Telepathy
-[ ] Learn from Grandma
[ ] The Examined Life (1 action) Driven
13/13

Dropped
[ ] Best Fit (1 action)

Deathbybunnies said:
Okay, so if we were to do The Examined Life (Driven), what if we dropped Best Fit? We're still being friendly, and Jaron is extremely unlikely to fail at integrating himself into our friends circle; our other, less-desperately-strapped-for-time friends will no doubt take care of that. We would still be maintaining our relationship with him and our other friends by default (and more, with Maya and Nosy Little Girl). (Note: I would not be considering this if the QM hadn't confirmed we don't neglect our friends by not taking action points explicitly about them).
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It was close, but between not actually negatively affecting our relationship with Jaron/Jaffur due to default relationship maintenance and possible bonus actions and/or willpower (both of which are very good) I've dropped Best Fit and added The Examined Life - Driven. Bonus actions are just so worth it; any action not taken this turn can, if a bonus action is earned, be taken next turn anyway. And willpower effects every roll we make, which means that on average it works out to the same as a bonus action on average, given that we're less likely to fail a roll and have to redo it. Honestly, I'd consider this even if it was just going to be a willpower bonus (though I live in hope of More Actions!)
 
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Jaron's inclusion into the group requires an effort from EVERYONE, including us. Doing that is actually more important than the Maya action.

@PoptartProdigy, considering we're still just a kid, are we expected to lead people in war?
 
Andres110 said:
Jaron's inclusion into the group requires an effort from EVERYONE, including us. Doing that is actually more important than the Maya action.
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Not as far as I know? We won't be excluding him in any way, we just won't be personally going the extra mile to get him out of his shell, which frankly other members of our group will be equipped to do.

But just to assuage your fears, @PoptartProdigy can you confirm the group won't exclude Jaron if we don't ourselves put any special effort in?
EDIT: I'm imagining it as Jaron making a Communications check, with the group's help giving a bonus, of which our personal help will increase that bonus - as one of 5 people.
 
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Andres110 said:
Jaron's inclusion into the group requires an effort from EVERYONE, including us. Doing that is actually more important than the Maya action.

@PoptartProdigy, considering we're still just a kid, are we expected to lead people in war?
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You're expected to contribute, but being a war leader is not yet expected of you.
Quest said:
You were probably distracted by all the screaming and the pretty lights.
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I'm more amused by the fact that everybody has apparently missed the fact that I quite deliberately never mentioned Kakara getting a read on the power level of the human who was implied to be the leader. I actually considered straight up not mentioning it, but...
Deathbybunnies said:
Not as far as I know? We won't be excluding him in any way, we just won't be personally going the extra mile to get him out of his shell, which frankly other members of our group will be equipped to do.

But just to assuage your fears, @PoptartProdigy can you confirm the group won't exclude Jaron if we don't ourselves put any special effort in?
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No, no, that's fine, he'll still be included by group effort.

You'll just be the only one not to especially try to make him feel welcomed.
 
PoptartProdigy said:
No, no, that's fine, he'll still be included by group effort.

You'll just be the only one not to especially try to make him feel welcomed.
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There we go! No problem in the end! If we get called on it, we'll apologise and say we're distracted or something. EDIT: And we can make it up to him, with our swanky new bonus action and/or actions not wasted on failed willpower checks.
 
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Personally, this is my wishlist:

[ ] Slack (1 action)
[ ] Best Fit (1 action)
[ ] Loose Lips Lead To Ultimate Power (1 action)
[ ] Nosy Little Girl (1 action)

[ ] Command Training (1 action)

[ ] Train With Sensei (1 action)
[ ] Beg Sensei To Teach You [Mind Projection] (1 action)

[ ] Socialize! (1 action, may be taken multiple times)
-[ ] Betarel
-[ ] Fenella
[ ] Family First (1 action)
[ ] A Scion's Duties III (1 action)

[ ] Get Organized (1 action)
[ ] Sound Out Sensei (1 action)
Nathaniel Wolff said:
Good plan :V

*subtly points at sig*
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Pointing to your sig does nothing.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
There we go! No problem in the end!
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No problem in the end? We were just told that we'd be the only one in the group who isn't making an effort to include him! What does that say about us and what we think of him? Not only to our friends but to Jaron himself. Merely maintaining our relationship with him isn't enough and he doesn't deserve so little. Just like everyone else we need to put in the effort.
 
Plan Sucal or as I call it, Plan Support!

We aren't the fighty Scion, we are the political/friendly one!

So rather then trying to focus on being the blasty one, we should cement our relationships with those important with us, as well as getting stronger ties with the other houses! After all, with House Peat potentially being a problem, how better to potentially diffuse it by getting the heir as our best Saiyan friend? So yeah, my plan is less on the punchy punchy and more on tieing ourselves clsoer to sanity with our friends as well as sounding out both potential supporters and ensuring we have long term stability. While we might have missed one attempt at going crazy, that doesn't mean their might not be further sanity checks waiting for us!

With the potential slaughter that is coming, moving closer to being able to pick up Ki Healing so try and fix the carnage will help our pacifisit little soul, as well as working to improve things long term.

Masquerade
[x] Maintain Grades (2 actions):
[x] Best Fit (1 action):.
[x]Nosy Little Girl (1 action)
[x] The Power of Learning (Medicine) 1 action
5/13

A Warrior's Path
[x] Research Project (1 action): Cells 'Perfected' Multiform
6/13

Style Training
[x] Train Specific Skill Multiform
7/13

The Mysteries
[X] Beg Sensei To Teach You [Ki Sight] (1 action):
8/13

The Pulse of Life
[ x] Family First (1 action)
[ x] A Scion's Duties III (1 action)
[x] Socialise: Carrick Balor
[x] Socialise: Fennella Peat
12/13

Breaking the Seal
[X] Sound Out Sensei (1 action):

13/13
 
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