Bullshit. The Seers are just too embarrassed by it.
Honestly though, that... thing was a stroke of genius. Let's him go around at full-ish power while being silly enough that no one in charge is really worried.
Dragon Ball: After the End
Honestly though, that... thing was a stroke of genius. Let's him go around at full-ish power while being silly enough that no one in charge is really worried.
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Even if we assume you are right, it's still lost, and we can't reference it.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Ah, but if we don't manage to do so, this gives us a fallback. Gives them a layer that they won't look beyond. I mean, when you find out that you live in wuxia and can learn ki martial arts why would you suspect that the secret society that knows Ki usage is also space aliens that are only part human?
Ridiculously Average Guy
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Why don't we just keep it from becoming an issue, and fight the enemy off planet? This is a whole sector, there has to be a world somewhere we can use as a staging ground.
[x] Plan Counter Strike.
-[X] Tell Dad. This is his job; he can decide how to deal with it.
--[X] Suggest we have a number of Saiyans go out into space with some Seers, and fight the scout out there. Keeping the fighting away from Garenhuld means we don't have to worry about damage, and means that if we're detected (by say, The Enemy), it isn't traced straight back to home.
---[X] Also suggest that rather than simply killing the enemy, bring him back and have a Sorcerer bind him, so he can be questioned. We know others will be coming, it would be good to get some information on them.
--[X] Then Tell your conspirators (Grandma, the Senzus, and anybody else you bring in on things). They need to know this in case it'll impact the plan.
-[X] Tell Dad about the Peat's perfidious plots
--[X] But request he deal with it as quietly as possible.
[x] Plan Counter Strike.
-[X] Tell Dad. This is his job; he can decide how to deal with it.
--[X] Suggest we have a number of Saiyans go out into space with some Seers, and fight the scout out there. Keeping the fighting away from Garenhuld means we don't have to worry about damage, and means that if we're detected (by say, The Enemy), it isn't traced straight back to home.
---[X] Also suggest that rather than simply killing the enemy, bring him back and have a Sorcerer bind him, so he can be questioned. We know others will be coming, it would be good to get some information on them.
--[X] Then Tell your conspirators (Grandma, the Senzus, and anybody else you bring in on things). They need to know this in case it'll impact the plan.
-[X] Tell Dad about the Peat's perfidious plots
--[X] But request he deal with it as quietly as possible.
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Yeah, that's the general idea behind doing so- coupled with potentially letting us relax the masquerade or teach human friends, without committing to such yet. Open our options up.
I don't see why telling Berra about the Peats is necessary....
Seriously, why? Keeping the Head Priest alive is already up in the air, this would push it to "he's to be executed" without question. It'd ruin the "in" we have with Fenella and gives up leverage over the house, on account of the House likely going bye-bye.
Seriously, why? Keeping the Head Priest alive is already up in the air, this would push it to "he's to be executed" without question. It'd ruin the "in" we have with Fenella and gives up leverage over the house, on account of the House likely going bye-bye.
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There's no way he'd have him executed after hearing about the speech we gave - it would undercut us massively, and possibly induce a riot. And Priest Peat voluntarily gave up on the scheme after hearing our speech.
The fate of the rest of the family is a little up in the air, but there's no way he has them executed on flimsy evidence in a time of such unrest. Dad's a savvy political operator, he knows better than that.
As to why it's necessary, we're already keeping The Plan a secret from him; keeping away important information like this for no good reason would really ruin any chance of reconciliation post-unsealing, since at least we very obviously felt the sealing was wrong. Oh, and the situation is unstable enough without keeping further treachery concealed.
Ridiculously Average Guy
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Seriously though:
We should fight the enemy off-planet.
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Does depend on a few rolls, if you tell Berra. Communication, mainly.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Unless we can port to their ship, then we can only fight them where their ship stops. If they only stop at Garenhuld...
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Whoops, missed that.
I think it's worth the risk. We can emphasise how our speech convinced him to give up the entire scheme with no prompting whatsoever.
Unless we use the Senzu's ship!
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[] Plan Counter Strike.
I really don't want the votes going for the "secret order" to succeed. The Garenhulders don't have to be involved at all and this'll open up a massive can of worms we can't close. It's also completely, utterly without any good purpose.
I really don't want the votes going for the "secret order" to succeed. The Garenhulders don't have to be involved at all and this'll open up a massive can of worms we can't close. It's also completely, utterly without any good purpose.
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Ridiculously Average Guy
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use Seers, land the party in front of the ship.
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So thinking about how to talk to Dad about the Peats, I think we need to emphasise four things to keep the Head Priest alive. EDIT: Turned this into a Plan.
[x] Plan Deathbybunnies.
-[X] Tell Dad. This is his job; he can decide how to deal with it.
--[X] Suggest we have a number of Saiyans go out into space with some Seers, and fight the scouts out there. Keeping the fighting away from Garenhuld means we don't have to worry about damage, and means that if we're detected (by say, The Enemy), it isn't traced straight back to home.
---[X] Also suggest that if at all possible, keep a scout alive (possibly using a Sorcerer to bind him), so he can be questioned. We know others will be coming, it would be good to get some information on them.
--[X] Then Tell your conspirators (Grandma, the Senzus, and anybody else you bring in on things). They need to know this in case it'll impact the plan.
-[X] Tell Dad about the Peat's perfidious plots
--[X] But request he deal with it as quietly as possible, given how we particularly publicly permitted possible-pope Peat a partial pardon.
---[X] Emphasise how we particularly don't want the Head Priest executed, for four main reasons:
1) The man gave up his scheme and submitted himself to our judgement with no prompting whatsoever, after we gave our speech.
2) He had a straight-up religious experience when we gave our speech; he's pretty much going to be in our corner forever now, which will make dealing the cult much easier.
3) We declared that we were going to defer judgement until we were Lady, on the provision that he spend all of his life until then helping other Saiyans. If execution is really called for, we can do it when that happens. In the meanwhile, he's been explicitly ordered by his favourite demigod to go do good, and we believe he's going to do it.
4) If he has the priest executed, he's kind of undermining us. Granted, he's the Lord and we're the Scion, but we had this whole speech and people were screaming in adoration and... it would be a shame to mess all of that up, you know?
[x] Plan Deathbybunnies.
-[X] Tell Dad. This is his job; he can decide how to deal with it.
--[X] Suggest we have a number of Saiyans go out into space with some Seers, and fight the scouts out there. Keeping the fighting away from Garenhuld means we don't have to worry about damage, and means that if we're detected (by say, The Enemy), it isn't traced straight back to home.
---[X] Also suggest that if at all possible, keep a scout alive (possibly using a Sorcerer to bind him), so he can be questioned. We know others will be coming, it would be good to get some information on them.
--[X] Then Tell your conspirators (Grandma, the Senzus, and anybody else you bring in on things). They need to know this in case it'll impact the plan.
-[X] Tell Dad about the Peat's perfidious plots
--[X] But request he deal with it as quietly as possible, given how we particularly publicly permitted possible-pope Peat a partial pardon.
---[X] Emphasise how we particularly don't want the Head Priest executed, for four main reasons:
1) The man gave up his scheme and submitted himself to our judgement with no prompting whatsoever, after we gave our speech.
2) He had a straight-up religious experience when we gave our speech; he's pretty much going to be in our corner forever now, which will make dealing the cult much easier.
3) We declared that we were going to defer judgement until we were Lady, on the provision that he spend all of his life until then helping other Saiyans. If execution is really called for, we can do it when that happens. In the meanwhile, he's been explicitly ordered by his favourite demigod to go do good, and we believe he's going to do it.
4) If he has the priest executed, he's kind of undermining us. Granted, he's the Lord and we're the Scion, but we had this whole speech and people were screaming in adoration and... it would be a shame to mess all of that up, you know?
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An excellent point, though I don't think it invalidates any of my own points? I mostly want to keep the priest alive as a devoted ally and, frankly, to avoid the reputation hit I think his death will bring us. At the same time, I think the long-term consequences of not telling Dad about the Peats are too much to ignore.
On the other hand, we don't know much there is too repent.
There was enough to scare the hell out of the Peats present when it looked like he was going to do it.
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No, fairly sure they were scared about the whole "potential treason" thing.
They were quite likely involved in some way.
ChildishChimera
A umbran summon
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[X] Plan Counter Strike.
Yes, which he didn't confess. There was much more going on than just the story he told about misguidedly and personally trying to fill an empty niche with the best of intentions for the good of everyone.
Maybe. Remember I said "most likely".
Besides, what makes you think it was a "story"?
Maybe. Remember I said "most likely".
Besides, what makes you think it was a "story"?
The fact that he jumped in when Fenella was about to spill the beans. It would have been possible that he was just being innocently played by the rest of the Peats, but in that case he wouldn't have been nervous about it. He knew and appreciated that what they were up to was illicit above and beyond just his confessed actions. Claiming that he was just personally and individually trying to do what he thought was necessary in the face of a perceived leadership gap doesn't mesh with the fact that he knew that it involved an illicit conspiracy unless he had felt that circumstances had forced a divergence between legitimate action and right action but later changed his mind as he claimed he had, but if that were the case he would have decided that his role in the conspiracy was just as wrong as everything else and repented for it along with everything else. Either he still sincerely believes that some element of the conspiracy was still right despite being illegitimate, or he didn't have the courage to fully confess and repent for what he sees as not only a crime, but a sin. Considering that what he had already confessed was a capital crime and bringing the other powerful and authoritative actors in would if anything be a mitigating factor for him personally, the latter doesn't seem likely.
Just about the most charitable interpretation of the events would be that the other conspirators have some sort of coercion over him which he is even more afraid of than losing his own life and soul (? whatever the theological consequences of grievous sin are in the cult.) If we're really going to believe that, it means that we need to set aside some time to start digging into it looking for whatever they have on him.
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More likely he just doesn't want to get his sibling and family in trouble.