The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
no, literally no-one.
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
They became lords three years before the Sundering, yes. Why do you ask?
Ki shields in general aren't a focused area of study. For fast movement, there's IT.
Even real boys aren't that dumb. :lol
They're synonymous.
I'm not bothering to give him a relationship stat until it's decided whether or not he'll be surviving past the end of the year.
It's not actually contradictory. I never say, "Forget all hope," I say, "Forget the glories of the past." And that's accurate; the modern Exiles are at a low point in a very precipitous fall from grace, and while they lay claim to a long and proud legacy, are essentially heirs to dirt as far as that legacy is concerned. If the Masquerade fell today and the galaxy knew of Garenhuld's existence, the planet would have approximately the life expectancy of IRL Earth when exposed to the 40k-verse, which is what that bit is meant to evoke, here. The similar phrasing doesn't denote the same meaning; it's meant to be a depressing passage, but it doesn't actually say that this is a world without hope.
Unlike 40k, this is Dragon Ball. Both are dark places where planets can conceivably be referred to as "collateral damage" and where howling madmen with incomprehensible power roam the stars nearly with impunity and the best the average schlub can hope for is that their particular master is apathetic. But 40k is the literal progenitor of grimdark, and has neither desire nor drive to improve itself (the vast commercial inertia preventing things from moving forward is a factor here). Dragon Ball is written by a comedy writer. Toriyama wants a happy ending, so his characters fight and struggle and break that natural order of things in defiance of the odds. Granted, he doesn't describe the prior status quo as dimly as I do, but then again, I'm not Toriyama. There will be some variations in tone and approach; in particular, I don't want to flinch away from how dark this universe really is. My personal philosophy is very Nietzschean. But again, I'm a Nietzschean kind of person, and thus by any proper reading of his works 100% on board with the idea that these odds can be overcome. What do you do when you're knocked down? Scream, train a bit, and punch your way back to the top. So yes, forget the glories long-past; you have progress to make.
They're not unknown, but the knowledge about them is poorly detailed and there's been no contact. The Exiles know the generalities and whatever the histories show, but little else.
Mildly. It's extremely painful to do it, and not even professional warriors always do, but the benefit is high enough that a lot do. But you did it in secret, so public opinion is not an issue.
Cautiously. A lot of them gave you ample cause to hold a grudge.
Well, I had planned for a Seer PC, so not too badly. The Sight has its own limitations that keep it from breaking things.
As Nathaniel said, not only does nobody on Garenhuld know, nobody alive knows (through one means or another). Save the Enemy themself.
You can ask Dad! And will in fact have to.
And as a general notice: the Thanksgiving visit is done and I am back on track! Expect an update either today or tomorrow!
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
@PoptartProdigy
Were we bullied or something because of our weakling reputation? Or just looked down upon.
Were we bullied or something because of our weakling reputation? Or just looked down upon.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Looked down upon and -- very deliberately -- socially ostracized.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Eh, if not for The Enemy they'd probably actually be a major power, what with the sheer concentration of Champions they'd have.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Hinata style with a nicer dad.
Lovely.
I guess this is partially where our brothers enmity comes from?
We're going to have to do something about that I don't wanna have to beat black and blue him if we don't have to.
Rather st-silly of them. I mean, we were the Scion, and their eventual Lady. And, consequentially, a future Super Saiyan.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
News at 11, people are stupid.
Especially the young ones, its not like the adults could ostracize us directly, we wouldn't interact with them enough.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
Nono, I'm quite sure the Enemy has amnesia and so even the Enemy doesn't know. Can't possibly be that the QM is right, nonono.
- Location
- Australia
How come?
But didn't Bulma buy it it when Goku theorised that boys had tails and girls didn't? "She didn't look too closely" was I think the reasoning she gave.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Bulma is a treasure.
And, despite being a genius, terminally stupid at times. I just imagine she legitimately never saw a boy in person until Goku or somehow neglected to file her father as such.
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
I wouldn't count the Enemy as 'alive' by most(read: any) standards of the word.Nono, I'm quite sure the Enemy has amnesia and so even the Enemy doesn't know. Can't possibly be that the QM is right, nonono.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Able to move about and interact with the world?
The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
So do those robots that are used to make cars, and I don't see people calling them alive.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Fair enough: Able to move about and interact with the world, while also being sapient.
- Location
- Australia
Why not? It was only said that he was beyond death. That to me says he's immortal, not undead or anything. That or he's using the Big Gete Star to cheat death.
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The Fourth Monado
S U B A R A S H I I
- Location
- Away
...reasons that I want to elaborate on so badly, but can't.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
I had a super-sneaky suspicion about what terrible thing the enemy could be and how much we should panic, and you're not helping
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
Maybe he is so dead that he went beyond it. Or he is the one who made the distintion between alive or dead and created the other world system. Maybe it is the personification of the otherworld and thus being sent there does nothing. Or it is of such nature that it has no physichal body and thus can't be killed.
Really, at this point it is only speculation. The only thing we know is that Uub could have made a better second wish.
Really, at this point it is only speculation. The only thing we know is that Uub could have made a better second wish.
- Location
- Scotland
Hey a combination of black water mist and superhuman water, combined with an immortal enemy who was trapped in a void between dimensions for years, Isnt something to sneeze at at.Of course, Garlic Jr!
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
That's a bit near to spoilery stuff, I think.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Did we ever have any proof other than Dandeer's word that way back when Jaffur actually hurt her, rather than Dandeer just injuring herself to convince Dad? I remember she was supposed to have deceived him somehow, but I'm not sure if we ever actually figured out how.
- Location
- Australia
No hard proof, but there's enough circumstantial evidence to accept that Jaffur really did attack her. There is some doubt as to whether Jaffur attacked her because she prevented him from getting revenge on Vegeta or if he freaked out and thought he was next.