*What are those short for?
*Does Kakara have access to the first one as well as the second?
*How much experimenting with them does Kakara know about? (Specifically, can you Master them, and do they seem to push the cap higher for FPSSJs?)
Apparently I found the RP thread by accident. (Going to catch up on that when I can.) Anyway, have some questions:
*What are those short for?
*Does Kakara have access to the first one as well as the second?
*How much experimenting with them does Kakara know about? (Specifically, can you Master them, and do they seem to push the cap higher for FPSSJs?)
Access? Certainly. But it's a track; if you have USSJ, you went through ASSJ to get there.
Mastery doesn't seem to happen, no. They push the cap, but not for FPSSJs. The going theory is that they, in theory, could allow one to reach the actual FPSSJ cap purely through A/USSJ training, but diminishing returns hit you so early and so hard that it would take years, if it's even possible.
Mastery doesn't seem to happen, no. They push the cap, but not for FPSSJs. The going theory is that they, in theory, could allow one to reach the actual FPSSJ cap purely through A/USSJ training, but diminishing returns hit you so early and so hard that it would take years, if it's even possible.
The impression I got was that most Saiyans normally spend years training, and training hard. Arwe you saying it hasn't been stress-tested, at least outside of House Talt?
Well, there's also the happy suspicion that training it up the long way might let you break the power cap somehow, or possibly modulate the speed/power tradeoff.
The impression I got was that most Saiyans normally spend years training, and training hard. Arwe you saying it hasn't been stress-tested, at least outside of House Talt?
Well, there's also the happy suspicion that training it up the long way might let you break the power cap somehow, or possibly modulate the speed/power tradeoff.
I mean, I doubt it. Goku dismissed the form as a useless dead end for a reason, and that was with him being able to negate much of the speed penalty via IT like we can, and both trunks and vegeta ended up ditching the forms as well. You might be able to get FPASSj to the point where it's a viable competitor with GO, but even that would surprise me and the speed drop from USSj means that I'm not sure it would even be good for artillery usage. Maybe allies using it to buff up our spirit bomb, but that feels like it shouldn't work.
The impression I got was that most Saiyans normally spend years training, and training hard. Arwe you saying it hasn't been stress-tested, at least outside of House Talt?
It has not been stress-tested. Like I said, the form itself does not appear to admit of any mastery in and of itself, and the only people other than Talt who have tried have been curious Scions, who near-universally decided to give it up since they had a choice between spending many many years working on a dead end or gaining effective godhood in a couple.
The impression I got was that most Saiyans normally spend years training, and training hard. Arwe you saying it hasn't been stress-tested, at least outside of House Talt?
Well, there's also the happy suspicion that training it up the long way might let you break the power cap somehow, or possibly modulate the speed/power tradeoff.
I'm pretty sure that suspicion is going to find itself sad that it's wrong.
The Super Saiyan 1 powercap is pretty hardcore and final. Things like USSJ and Golden Oozaru basically shuffle "stats" around (speed vs strength, endurance vs power, etc.).
Modulating the tradeoff is either ASSJ (which is lighter and less bulky than USSJ but also less power) or just FPSSJ.
I want to try scrying on the Talts with Pastsight to see what all they tried with it. And if they never investigated modulating the regular/ascended/ultimate forms to see if they could find a hybrid, to do so.
I mean, I doubt it. Goku dismissed the form as a useless dead end for a reason, and that was with him being able to negate much of the speed penalty via IT like we can, and both trunks and vegeta ended up ditching the forms as well. You might be able to get FPASSj to the point where it's a viable competitor with GO, but even that would surprise me and the speed drop from USSj means that I'm not sure it would even be good for artillery usage. Maybe allies using it to buff up our spirit bomb, but that feels like it shouldn't work.
Trunks did use it as a distraction in the anime, and people in this thread have speculated it might be possible to go into and out of USSJ for brief periods of time to enhance a single attack, which would help get around the speed and stamina issues.
Alternatively and/or furthermore, the form has reminded me of All Might, so I'm wondering if it would be possible to selectively transform parts of the body.
[x] Time to stress-test your new sight abilities: see how many visions in a row you can handle, and how long do you need before you can have more, starting with the one regarding Guru
-[X] Take a break when it's time for the debriefing.
True Prophecy
You find yourself nodding in agreement with Dazarel. "One way," you say, taking a seat. "You're still going to be bored, though."
'You could always try to take me with you,' replies the dragon.
You snort. "Yeah, that's not possible."
'Yes, you do strike me as the authority on matter of sight,' he sneers.
You glare at him before closing your eyes. "Go away, Dazarel."
You seize onto the vision fluttering at the edges of your sight and float away. Just before the last of your awareness winks out, you realize that the incoming vision is presentsight.
* * *
Gone.
* * *
The Guru stands atop a spire of rock, frowning out at the bay. Behind him, a massive warrior lands. "Guru! The Alliance just made contact. The Empire's pulling back their offensives on all other fronts, and last people have seen, they're heading north."
The elderly namekian closes his eyes, sighing. "So. They've finally grown tired of us." He takes a deep breath before opening his eyes."Very well." He turns. "Plank, send out the word; all warrior-clan namekians are to start organizing for a fight. I want us prepared."
Plank nods. "Yes, sir! I'll get 'em hopping, you count on me!" He lifts back off and rockets into the distance.
The Guru stays where he is, shoulders slumping. "I'll need to call them back," he murmurs. "We'll need everybody we possibly can get, for this."
* * *
Back.
* * *
You blink as the vision ends. New Namek's coming under attack!? Is any place safe for me?! You think about that for a second. ...for them. I meant for them. You grimace. Okay, fine, no I didn't. I'm allowed to be selfish with everything going on right now. Why is everything-!
You take a deep breath, closing your eyes. You were planning on other visions; this was meant to be a stress test. You glance up to see what Bassoon's doing, and see him talking to an armored frost d- arcosian. You still have time.
You push your Sight, and for the first time in a while dive into a second vision right on the heels of your first. This time, futuresight.
* * *
Gone.
* * *
It's four years from now, and an old saiyan -- so old that his hair has already turned grey -- ascends a hill overlooking a plain of snow. He looks exhausted, and despite that, extremely twitchy. Every small noise has his head snapping over.
The planet he's on is not deserted, exactly -- you can feel ki signatures, and lots of them, clustered in various places off in the distance. However, from where he's standing, you'd be hard-pressed to tell that there was another soul within a thousand miles.
The man halts, suddenly, frozen still. He trembles, eyes wide.
"Hello, little Toru."
Slowly, Toru turns, shaking, and beholds the Enemy.
The cloaked figure stands, arms clasped behind his back. "You've kept away from me for a very long time, haven't you?"
Toru blurs into motion, blasting up into the sky, as his ki begins to flicker and he begins a transformation-
-only for a plane of sickening filth to spring up in his path. It defies description; if pressed, you could be convinced to vaguely call it black, in the same way that you would call a genocide a murder. It is something essentially indescribable, and you can sense the air around it shrieking as it attempts to house something so repugnant. Barely a millimeter thick, it is. A sheet of paper would be thicker.
Yet when Toru impacts it...he is gone. His eyes widen, his mouth opens in an abortive shout, and he strains to arrest his momentum, but still he plows into the sheet, and then he is simply gone.
The Enemy lowers his hand. "And done. Mission...complete."
* * *
Back.
* * *
You gasp as you come to, and barely manage to keep from vomiting. "Four years, I have four years," you mutter to yourself, trying to stave off panic. "He has four years, I can fix this with four years."
You try to catch your breath, but another vision is prodding at your consciousness -- pastsight -- and you grab it, remembering your resolution to take these as fast as you possibly can-
* * *
Gone.
* * *
Goku draws down the Genki Dama into his own body, grunting under the strain just as you did, and releasing it all in a titanic fury that makes the world tremble, just as you did. Planet Earth, for a moment, sings as one, and in a shining instant, Android Thirteen dies.
* * *
Back.
* * *
-you lurch as the vision dumps you back in Bassoon's head and immediately feel a flicker of presentsight clawing you away. You try to resist for a moment, just long enough to check what Bassoon's doing-
* * *
Gone.
* * *
A woman clad in strange armor creeps up behind some kind of alien you couldn't name with a blast to your head, slowly easing a knife out of a sheathe at her side -- a knife, why a knife of all things? -- and it's a cold instant before you realize that you're about to witness a murder-
* * *
Back.
* * *
-you feel your eyes rolling back in your skull-
* * *
Gone.
* * *
One year from now, you watch ships burning over new Namek as a tide of soldiers pours past. Advancing through the floating corpses of those who came before, they descend to the surface. Already, you can see that it's burning. Bassoon watches for a moment, saying nothing.
Then he sighs, seals up his armor, and steps out of his craft. "Kakara, I think that it's time for you to leave."
Your eyes widen. "Wait, no-!"
He cannot possibly hope to beat these odds. He cannot possibly hope to survive these odds. But he goes anyway, and with a lurch, you feel something shove you out of his consciousness and hurtling away to another host. The last thing you see of him is ki as he charges the invaders' flank with a roar of defiance and a burst of light.
* * *
Back.
* * *
-but they're still white all around, so it's not like it makes any difference-
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-and your spine snaps into utter rigidity.
Your aura unbinds and flares, casting the landscape in blue-then-golden glow as you transform without even meaning to. You blast straight to your max power, eyes gazing blindly up into the sky. Waves of power churn the surf at your back. The ground at your feet craters and cracks under the strain. Your mouth opens. You speak, ki and something more thrumming through your voice and giving it volume and projection you could never otherwise hope to match.
"A YEAR UNTIL THE END; A YEAR BEFORE THE FALL
NEW NAMEK TURNS, STILL UNAWARE
"THAT WHICH HAS LAIN DORMANT MUST AWAKEN
AND THOSE WHO HAVE SCATTERED MUST RETURN
"BEFORE THE BLOW COMES AND THE LAST DRAGON FALLS SILENT."
Your spine loses its rigidity, your eyes roll back down and clear up, and you slump backwards, falling to the grass as you lose your transformation. Your breath comes in short gasps, and sweat rolls down your face as heat rolls off of your skin. Your eyes ache; your voice feels like you've spent an hour screaming.
Dazarel alight on the ground next to your head, staring at you. "Well. I was right. That was interesting indeed.'
You groan, closing your eyes. "What...the hell happened?" you croak, tilting your head back in an effort to let more heat get out of your body.
Before Dazarel can answer, you hear Bassoon's voice, echoing from the sky. "KAKARA, WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?!"
You open your eyes, wincing at the light. You see Bassoon heading through the sky, heading for his residence. "W...what happened?"
"I'VE HAD MY MEETING. THE WHOLE TIME YOU LOOKED LIKE YOU WERE HAVING A SEIZURE, AND NOW THIS! WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?! WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT NEW NAMEK?"
You let your eyes slide closed in frustration and disappointment at having missed your chance to watch the meeting. "I...I'm a seer. And I had...something." You grapple, for a moment, about how much to reveal- but no, you already resolved to tell Bassoon everything. "It's not something that's ever happened to me before. But...it was true. I know it was." You open your eyes again and squint against the light. "It was about Namek. Something is coming to Namek."
Seer sub-ability unlocked: Prophecy.
You have a choice, in how much to reveal to Bassoon about what you saw during your vision quest. How much do you reveal?
[ ] Just tell him what you think the prophecy means. He doesn't need the context.
[ ] Explain your visions relating to New Namek, in case he has information that lets him interpret them differently.
[ ] Explain everything, no matter how trivial. Something of this gravity...unsettles...you. You want him to give you a full second opinion. Anything could be related.
[ ] Write-in. Feel free to fine-tune your level of disclosure. Want to disclose one specific vision and no others? All visions save one? Something in between? Write it in.
MANUAL MORATORIUM. APPROVAL VOTING.
Hm, updates have been fighting me lately. I think I'll pick up the pace fairly soon.
Enjoy, folks!
Also, I don't recall if I've previously mentioned this, but I do welcome proofreaders' comments, folks. I don't write this to my professional standards of quality, after all; I give these updates cursory checks, if I check them at all, and there's going to be plenty that slips past. Feel free to point out typos!
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