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Knocking out a bunch of the things we can See quickly will answer some questions for us, and let us then properly focus on the information we are soon to get. That will then let us See the things we will want to after the infodump with a) more practice and b) more focus.

Besides, I bet Kakara will enjoy playing with her Sight, considering it was crippled until recently. It's like when you hold a cat's tail still - as soon as you let go, they're going to thrash it around as much as they can.


Good point that addresses number 3.

However one and two still stands.

Yes playing around with sight is fun, the vote is for specifically stress testing sight
 
[x] Time to stress-test your new sight abilities: see how many visions in a row you can handle, and how long do you need before you can have more, starting with the one regarding Guru
-[X] Take a break when it's time for the debriefing.
 
Knocking out a bunch of the things we can See quickly will answer some questions for us, and let us then properly focus on the information we are soon to get. That will then let us See the things we will want to after the infodump with a) more practice and b) more focus.

Besides, I bet Kakara will enjoy playing with her Sight, considering it was crippled until recently. It's like when you hold a cat's tail still - as soon as you let go, they're going to thrash it around as much as they can.
I... don't understand a single one of these points.

How is getting a massive information dump supposed to help us focus on a second massive information dump? I'd expect that to just weigh us down with distractions. How are we supposed to See what we want afterwards, when we are specifically trying to See until we can't See anymore? How long does it take Sight to recover? A month? I don't know. Wouldn't it be better to just See what we want the first time? If we have more questions afterwards, that would necessarily mean that the stress test did not answer questions for us, where a more focused Vision session would have. Why not just go with the more focused Vision session, which could also be used as a stress test? A single cram session is not meaningful practice. Being Visually exhausted isn't going to help us focus.

What if there was a good reason to have immobilized the cat's tail? Yes, Sensei was mind-controlled, but he was also our sensei. Maybe he was being an evil saboteur. Or maybe he knows something we don't. I'm not so confident that all of the cat's vertebrae are fully intact and there are exactly zero mousetraps around.
 
I'll also reiterate my concern that despite saying "lets do it until the meeting", we might still miss the meeting. Even if we maintain a sense of time, if we get caught up in a powerful vision that we willingly initiate, do we know we can just back out of it? What if we get stuck for half the meeting? And again, saying "Bassoon can just tell us later" is a.) rude and b.) risks him forgetting something (not through malice, through simple exhaustion).

We're stuck who-knows-how-far away in the galaxy in the mind of a Namekian Battle Mage. We are unlikely to reach the point we can make it back home as the conquering hero tomorrow, or even next month. Thus, it does not hurt us to wait a few hours before beginning Vision Quest 3: Who Needs LSD When Sight Is My Drug.
 
Yes playing around with sight is fun, the vote is for specifically stress testing sight

You realize that a 'stress test' isn't a test that is designed to cause stress to you, but designed to find the limits of a skill or ability? Despite the name, it isn't a promise of 'adding stress to Kakara', which is what it seems like you think it will do.

How is getting a massive information dump supposed to help us focus on a second massive information dump?

Most of the questions we've had are questions which will be answered fairly quickly. And that will let us get those questions out of the way so that we can focus on the new information more effectively.

Have you ever tried to focus on learning a new subject when you've got dozens of things going wrong in other aspects of your life? It's like that - the unanswered questions demand some amount of mental effort. Clearing some of those will let us better focus our mental efforts on other things.

How long does it take Sight to recover?

We don't know how long it takes, but we previously had 'juice' refresh on a daily basis. I'd be willing to be that the block Sensei put on us didn't speed up the recovery of our Seer abilities.

Thus, it is not unreasonable to expect us to recover to full Seer capabilities within a day or less.
 
Despite what is nigh-miraculously still an ongoing debate, it's well past time for me to cut this short. Vote closed.

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[x] Time to stress-test your new sight abilities: see how many visions in a row you can handle, and how long do you need before you can have more, starting with the one regarding Guru
-[X] Take a break when it's time for the debriefing.
No. of Votes: 16

[X] Take the vision (No check; next update contains a vision interlude before moving on with the day).
No. of Votes: 14

[x] Time to stress-test your new sight abilities: see how many visions in a row you can handle, and how long do you need before you can have more, starting with the one regarding Guru
No. of Votes: 8

[X] See if you can't poke it towards another vision (Moderate-high-difficulty sight check to switch; next update contains the result before moving on with the day).
-[X] Toru
No. of Votes: 1

[X] See if you can't poke it towards another vision (Moderate-high-difficulty sight check to switch; next update contains the result before moving on with the day).
-[X] 17 and 18
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 34

Though it split some, our winner is still, by a couple of votes:

[x] Time to stress-test your new sight abilities: see how many visions in a row you can handle, and how long do you need before you can have more, starting with the one regarding Guru
-[X] Take a break when it's time for the debriefing.
 
Ah, curse my lack of internet. I had a better idea:
[ ] Time to stress-test your new sight abilities: see how many visions in a row you can handle, and how long do you need before you can have more, starting with the one regarding Guru.
-[ ] Then try to See the debriefing in Futuresight, and see how it compares when reviewing it in Pastsight afterwards.
 
Unfortunate that it wasn't suggested until after the vote closed :(

Also, we rolled low on our Sight check, and even if we have traits and a Skill that give us a boost (I'm don't think any of our traits do) we probably only got a mediocre total, at best.

Challenge accepted

Applicable Traits
  1. Inquisitive small (+10) bonus to all actions gather information

  2. Mature small (+10) bonus to all mental actions

  3. Seer [Level 2/5] +20 to all sight actions
Maybe applicable Traits
  1. Level Headed gain a small (+10) bonus to all calm or patient actions

In total +40/50

With a roll off 21+40=61 or 21+50=71 :)

P.s. on phone Sorry for Spelling
 
I could see Inquisitive working, and our Seer skill definitely will.

I feel like Mature is a bit of a stretch, and level-headed is right out (given that this action is not particularly calm nor patient).

So I'd say it's more like a 51.
 
Deciding to blaze through as many visions as possible right before an important meeting/debriefing (but we'll stop before the meeting, we promise!) is definitely not patient.
 
I could see Inquisitive working, and our Seer skill definitely will.

I feel like Mature is a bit of a stretch, and level-headed is right out (given that this action is not particularly calm nor patient).

So I'd say it's more like a 51.

Deciding to blaze through as many visions as possible right before an important meeting/debriefing (but we'll stop before the meeting, we promise!) is definitely not patient.
Yeah I was mostly referring to the calm aspect

And even then I said maybe


KaintukeeBob
Why wouldn't mature count, is sight not a mental action?




Actually this makes me consider what does classify as a mental action.

Because from my point of view these skills can all be considered mental
  1. Communication

  2. Intrigue

  3. Command Training

  4. Medicine

  5. Ki Sense

  6. Ki Control

  7. Ki Refinement

  8. Telepathy

  9. Seer

  10. Mind Projection

  11. Instant Transmission

  12. Genki Dama
Admittedly some of them will stretch the definition

PoptartProdigy could you define mental actions please?
 
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Yeah I was mostly referring to the calm aspect

And even then I said maybe


KaintukeeBob
Why wouldn't mature count, is sight not a mental action?




Actually this makes me consider what does classify as a mental action.

Because from my point of view these skills can all be considered mental
  1. Communication

  2. Intrigue

  3. Command Training

  4. Medicine

  5. Ki Sense

  6. Ki Control

  7. Ki Refinement

  8. Telepathy

  9. Seer

  10. Mind Projection

  11. Instant Transmission

  12. Genki Dama
Admittedly some of them will stretch the definition

PoptartProdigy could you define mental actions please?
Hm. You know, that does raise the point that I should probably reword that trait. It needs to be clearer.

I'll get on that, and let you all know when I have.

EDIT: Done.
 
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