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You mean exactly what 90% of the people have been doing thus making the idea that this is too much laughable?
People are crtiquing the story not poptart, a good writer can fuck up and that doesnt mean people are insulting them.
Dragon Ball: After the End
People are crtiquing the story not poptart, a good writer can fuck up and that doesnt mean people are insulting them.
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You cannot possibly be serious.
In what Universe would it ever have been a good idea to talk with Dandeer?
Well yeah.
Of course people aren't thinking. They're Feeling.
Why would they stop and think when they're angry? Most people can't do that.
*Dryly* Nega-Kakara who did literally everything the opposite of what we did.
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To clarify @PoptartProdigy I think you're a talented writer and none of what I'm saying is an insinuation against your own character. My complaints are solely with the decisions that have been made.
I'm completely against this and if or when getting 17 or 18 to help us in any way other than training comes up, I will vote and campaign against it with all I've got.
WARNING-DRAGON BALL SUPER SPOILERS IN SPOILER!
My biggest problem with Dragon Ball Super is this. Not the power, not the return to OG Dragon Ball-esque story and comedy, but the fact the heroes never won.
Beerus got bored and left. Whis rewound time to stop Frieza. Hit quit the tournament despite the fact he won. Zamasu was erased by Zeno. Hit was hired by Goku all along, and also Goku lost. The entire tournament of power was a sham and literally none of it mattered.
Beerus got bored and left. Whis rewound time to stop Frieza. Hit quit the tournament despite the fact he won. Zamasu was erased by Zeno. Hit was hired by Goku all along, and also Goku lost. The entire tournament of power was a sham and literally none of it mattered.
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we were too close and held to much of his attention to successfully IT away. If the memory worked it would have been what i wanted to do honestly. Except i preferred the other side of the sun.
mh..it MIGHT work, but it's still incredibly risky. After all she is a sorceress, she will be able to see our shade and interact with it. And we don't know what kind of spells she used on herself.
It's not SSJ2 level of risky, but it's pretty close i think.
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"I don't know what I'm doing."
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Yep let's just ignore a solution because of out of character crap and because its easy.
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I honestly think the best mid update option would have been for us to throw dandeer at Yammar. No need to fuck around with games of chicken, he has to catch her. We IT away and charge spirit bomb. He can't afford to let her hit the wall while he stops us. It benefits from oddball bonus, and gets us the time to disengage we need.
E; Apparently Poptart actually rolled this as an alternate possibility, but Yammar passed the hard TK roll in that counterfactual timeline.
E; Apparently Poptart actually rolled this as an alternate possibility, but Yammar passed the hard TK roll in that counterfactual timeline.
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No, but I don't see how you can get angry with Poptart for posting "please don't be salty" yet not be annoyed by the amount of salt. If the salt is understandable, so is Poptart wanting people not to be salty.
Yammar may have been mind controlled, but that didn't make him less of an ass.
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You can if you'd like, but personally I'm ignoring the solution because it's narratively unsatisfying and effectively makes everything we've done in this quest completely pointless. That said, you do you.
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The person who hates her doesn't want her to die due to personal beliefs, while the mind controlled guy is the kind of person fully comfortable with such risks.
I don't see how it's ''both ways''?
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Because "dont be salty" is just a way to say dont criticise what ive written that makes you sound better than the other side.
Simple. Reasonable expectations.
Poptart should have enough experience to know that a simple request wouldn't stop the thread getting salty like that. On top of the fact that he went to bed after, meaning he left the thread to their own devices.
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Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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No Kakara pacifism is directly responsible for this or more importantly her inability to convince a mind controlled deceit debuffed person that she is willing to let Dandeer die.
There is no way she should have lost that game of chicken.
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Honestly, a big thing is that she was just subject to a telepathic attack, so mind shields might have gone up first.
No, "don't be salty" doesn't mean "don't criticize what I've written".
There is a difference between arguing for why the update should have ended earlier and given us a vote for what to do after grabbing Dandeer (which I agree with, even if we were going to lose either way, though I'm not particularly upset about this), and between demanding a retcon and attacking Poptart for asking people to stay civil.
There's also a difference between making a single post explaining why you dislike the update and making the same complaint over and over even if the author is asleep and thus has not even read the first comment.
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[ ] Alter the plan. Due to overwhelming opposition, pick only one of the following:
-[ ] You know that she said not to, but frankly, you need to try. See if you can't snap Jaffur out of his fugue like you did back at Hall Senzu. Do this instead of freeing the Senzus, because you are well awarethat you can't do both, with these odds.
If we're going to free someone, might as well be the person that didn't screw this whole plan up. Fuck the senzus, fuck Yammar, Jaffur at least did his best.
-[ ] You know that she said not to, but frankly, you need to try. See if you can't snap Jaffur out of his fugue like you did back at Hall Senzu. Do this instead of freeing the Senzus, because you are well awarethat you can't do both, with these odds.
If we're going to free someone, might as well be the person that didn't screw this whole plan up. Fuck the senzus, fuck Yammar, Jaffur at least did his best.
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No offense, but this plan sounds like "stab yourself through the heart" and we all now how that worked out.
I am gonna be blunt, here - PopartProdigy is a good writer, but this whole sequence is showing that he is not a good QM. Cut out the voting, make it a fanfic, and save everyone (including yourself) some heartache, man.
Personally, I'm unfollowing the quest. It's not worth it to me, anymore.
Personally, I'm unfollowing the quest. It's not worth it to me, anymore.
Jaffur did fuck up when he got himself knocked out by Berra, though.
Though most of the Senzus didn't do much, Dandelor was pretty much our most reliable asset for this fight, and the only one who will be able hide Maya and the others from Dandeer. I mean, unless we're planning on taking our friends to space. @PoptartProdigy, can shades IT transmit people with them?
Also, if future Kakara tells us not to try to free Jaffur, I'm willing to believe that it's a bad idea.
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My thoughts on that are going to depend on how elaborate the outer space thing we're about to be thrown into is. If it's fully fleshed, that means this was planned.
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Also, we're not sticking around for her monologue, we have better things to be doing.
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He was willing to call the bluff. Yammar is very much of the, "don't let hostage-taking work," mindset.
The issue is that Yammar is not willing to negotiate. Kakara locked him for a bit in the manner you saw, but threats against Dandeer's safety just result in Yammar charging, because he's of the opinion that the only way to not let hostages be effective is to refuse to negotiate with them as leverage. His response to negotiation is charge to get her out, and damn the consequences. Which I rolled. Kakara needs to defend herself; the only effective way to do that is to retain Dandeer the saiyan shield. Even if she opts for self-sacrifice to kill Dandeer, she needs to succeed; she could not before Yammar closed to zero range. Look how fast he closes in the update. Kakara barely has time to dodge, let alone shoot the hostage.
Again, it was a possibility I checked, and in all cases led to, "Yammar engages Kakara in hand-to-hand."
You think he was there to talk?
They cannot.
In one sense. Had you won the fight, you would also find a fully-fleshed-out Garenhuld. I plan for all outcomes.
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So just because Poptart expects people to be salty means it's suddenly a dick move for Poptart to ask them not to be?
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I'd also like to point out that-while I don't reccomend it!- this is roughly the point Gohan went SSJ2 in the Cell saga.