- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Didn't actually know it was a thing. No objection.
Dragon Ball: After the End
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
[X] Plan Attack Under Heavy Jamming
-[X] Get everyone you can to telepathically demand answers of our opponents, starting with Dandeer and Berra.
[X] Plan Public Accusation
-[X] Shout, physically and telepathically, that Dandeer murdered eight thousand, eight hundred, and thirty-two Vegetan Sorcerors, eleven years ago. Be as specific as you possibly can. Do this on loop.
-[X] Then teleport to her and attack as fast as possible.
[X] Plan Mom, Dad Needs You
-[X] IT to Mom, see if we can bring her with us as we Project into Dad's mind.
-[X] If we can't, or don't think we can safely, she might still be helpful for distracting him while we go in.
[X] Subplan: Don't Be Too Sorry If She Dies
-[X] If Dandeer is killed, she deserved it. Dazarel massacred planets, but he was killing strangers to eat them. She murdered colleagues in cold blood, just to eliminate competition.
[X] ASK: Jaffur, do you know Multiform?
I hope these are all clear enough - most of them reference existing votes, with things tacked on.
-[X] Get everyone you can to telepathically demand answers of our opponents, starting with Dandeer and Berra.
[X] Plan Public Accusation
-[X] Shout, physically and telepathically, that Dandeer murdered eight thousand, eight hundred, and thirty-two Vegetan Sorcerors, eleven years ago. Be as specific as you possibly can. Do this on loop.
-[X] Then teleport to her and attack as fast as possible.
[X] Plan Mom, Dad Needs You
-[X] IT to Mom, see if we can bring her with us as we Project into Dad's mind.
-[X] If we can't, or don't think we can safely, she might still be helpful for distracting him while we go in.
[X] Subplan: Don't Be Too Sorry If She Dies
-[X] If Dandeer is killed, she deserved it. Dazarel massacred planets, but he was killing strangers to eat them. She murdered colleagues in cold blood, just to eliminate competition.
[X] ASK: Jaffur, do you know Multiform?
I hope these are all clear enough - most of them reference existing votes, with things tacked on.
On that note, I think Berra is either much slower with IT than Kakara is, or IT-is-an-important-secret was an issue that should have been mentioned much earlier. There have been at least two cases where he knows where Kakara is and is coming quickly, but she still needs to run out the clock for him to arrive. (And it's not like he doesn't know Instant Transmission, either - he's used it against her while sparring, and it's a signature of Goku Style. It's bizarre that he wouldn't have used it to reach the first scout battle, given that I'm pretty sure she did.)
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
As fitting a time as any to close the vote.
Our winning vote today is:
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
Update drops either today or tomorrow!
The trait still admits of no exceptions.
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##### NetTally 1.9.8
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
No. of Votes: 9
[X] This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you watching for an opening, and this coordinated, you'll find an opening. When you do, go straight for Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
No. of Votes: 7
[X] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
No. of Votes: 4
[X] Plan Charge it now!
-[X] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side. THEN...
--[X] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Plan Sneak Attack, Bitch!
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Plan Attack Under Apra's Jamming
-[X] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Plan Attack Under Heavy Jamming
-[X] Get everyone you can to telepathically demand answers of our opponents, starting with Dandeer and Berra.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Plan Public Accusation
-[X] Shout, physically and telepathically, that Dandeer murdered eight thousand, eight hundred, and thirty-two Vegetan Sorcerors, eleven years ago. Be as specific as you possibly can. Do this on loop.
-[X] Then teleport to her and attack as fast as possible.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Plan Mom, Dad Needs You
-[X] IT to Mom, see if we can bring her with us as we Project into Dad's mind.
-[X] If we can't, or don't think we can safely, she might still be helpful for distracting him while we go in.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Project yourself into Berra's mind and have Jaffur burn out the magics on him through you. hopefully you should have the time.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] You don't know what's going on with Sensei Carrick, but you can't take any chances. Start contacting every Seer you can sense and order them to do anything they can to disrupt his visions since that's a thing Seers can apparently do.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] ASK: Jaffur, do you know Multiform?
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 18
##### NetTally 1.9.8
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
No. of Votes: 9
[X] This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you watching for an opening, and this coordinated, you'll find an opening. When you do, go straight for Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
No. of Votes: 7
[X] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
No. of Votes: 6
[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
No. of Votes: 4
[X] Plan Charge it now!
-[X] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side. THEN...
--[X] Is now the time for a Genki Dama?! Yes! yes it is! With this spell Jaffur will be better than ever at keeping them off of you, and you have a few seconds where they're unable to interrupt at all while the two of you get ready.
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Plan Sneak Attack, Bitch!
No. of Votes: 2
[X] Plan Attack Under Apra's Jamming
-[X] Ask Apra to telepathically shout at all the non-oozaru Saiyans on Dandeer's side. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Plan Attack Under Heavy Jamming
-[X] Get everyone you can to telepathically demand answers of our opponents, starting with Dandeer and Berra.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Plan Public Accusation
-[X] Shout, physically and telepathically, that Dandeer murdered eight thousand, eight hundred, and thirty-two Vegetan Sorcerors, eleven years ago. Be as specific as you possibly can. Do this on loop.
-[X] Then teleport to her and attack as fast as possible.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Plan Mom, Dad Needs You
-[X] IT to Mom, see if we can bring her with us as we Project into Dad's mind.
-[X] If we can't, or don't think we can safely, she might still be helpful for distracting him while we go in.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Project yourself into Berra's mind and have Jaffur burn out the magics on him through you. hopefully you should have the time.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] You don't know what's going on with Sensei Carrick, but you can't take any chances. Start contacting every Seer you can sense and order them to do anything they can to disrupt his visions since that's a thing Seers can apparently do.
No. of Votes: 1
[X] ASK: Jaffur, do you know Multiform?
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 18
Our winning vote today is:
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
Update drops either today or tomorrow!
Nice try.
The trait still admits of no exceptions.
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
Ah. I was taking the 'you look ready to kill someone' line pretty seriously. You'll notice I didn't actually vote for killing her.Nice try.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I know. Kakara does not believe in killing. This is one of the only cases where a trait will flat-out cancel player votes; Kakara will never even think that somebody deserves death. The player base can make Kakara kill somebody, but they can't make her like it.
You can only make that happen by nixing the trait.
Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
- Location
- In the fridge
It still surprises me that there's never been a concentrated effort to change the Protector trait further so as to allow Kakara to kill to prevent further death or some other such variation since Kakara's unwillingness to kill is often brought up and talked about.
It just seems like something some one would have brought up by now since the Protector trait isn't locked in and is still subject to change.
It just seems like something some one would have brought up by now since the Protector trait isn't locked in and is still subject to change.
KnightDisciple
Love God. Do Right. Fear No Man.
- Location
- Midwest, USA
Maybe because some of us find the existing trait interesting and even admirable?
Sir LagsAlot
Yandere Dice Magnet
- Location
- In the fridge
Aye that's the point though some of the people reading the quest find the trait interesting and admirable not all so the people who find it irritating would look for solutions such as the one I presented to solve the problem they have with the current situation. I'm not knocking anyone for their choice I'm just surprised with the lack of fuss and action in regard to the trait.
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Non-Canon Omake: Contemplating Murder
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
Ah, sorry. I should rephrase that.
Mini-Omake: Contemplating Murder
"You look ready to kill someone. You look ready to kill someone."
You don't look at Jaffur.
...
For years, now, a part of you has felt sorry for Dandeer. Oh, you hate her - the thought of what she did to Jaffur still makes you feel like you're in Oozaru. But she's lost almost everything. It's hard not to sympathize.
But that part of you is quiet, now that you know what she did to all her colleagues. Now that you remember. It changes your perspective enormously, to think of her as someone so alien that she could even plan that, let alone go through with it.
You realize she's not so different from Dazarel. The only reason you sort of like the dragon is because he's personable. Dandeer isn't.
...(But, you rationalize treacherously,) Dandeer wasn't hunting strangers for food. She was murdering colleagues - her own family! - for no reason you can understand. Just so - what? Some people who loved her would die, because she wanted them to be her enemies? How does that make sense!?
You're distracted enough that when the vision comes, you don't block it in time.
***
Gone
***
Gone
***
You're standing over Dandeer's corpse. It's not pretty. Vegetan methods of execution never are, even dialed far back from what they were before Talt.
You're having a very hard time feeling bad about it.
***
Back
***
Back
***
You shake your head. It was only a flash, and part of you is horrified. Another part of you - the part that's still tired, despite the rush of finally finishing this - wants to agree.
You keep walking.
A/N: I suggest this bonus be applied to any mental health check to come up regarding Dandeer's death, including how much of a relief it is if she survives. I think it's canon-compliant. By the way, why are Cookies still a thing? (Not that I'm complaining. At all.)
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Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
- Location
- Something Clever
- Pronouns
- She/Her
They aren't, people just got to keep the ones they already had when they were discontinued.
HoratioVonBecker
Imperfectly Aligned
Well, Omake are still being rewarded. Expected, even.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I respect Kakara for trying to follow the Code of Batman, while at the same time there are going to be times where I try to game the situation in light of the fact that while Kakara will try her best to keep anyone from dying... that doesn't mean I automatically have to vote for Kakara to do the most optimal imaginable course of action in light of this. Because it's in-character to make mistakes and be troubled by them, and the Code of Batman sets characters up for that.
Even Batman doesn't believe that nobody deserves to die. Quite the opposite. He clings to his code because he knows that if he starts he won't stop.
- Location
- Peterborough, NH, USA
It's been noted that Superman is so morally inflexible that if he willingly kills someone he usually end up becoming basically Hitler. Kakara doesn't seem quite so vulnerable to such a mental break considering what happened with the Scout, but we should keep the possibility in mind.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
This one hasn't happened, so it's non-canon, but I'll put the bonus towards mental health checks for if the players vote for Kakara to use lethal force, yeah. Cookies are holdovers from the old way of doing things; I let those who banked theirs hold onto them, but they no longer replenish. Instead, we have the new bonus system.
*checks*
Actually, I need to strike a few more of those, they've been used and I forgot to mark them.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I think that's partly because Superman is so much more overwhelmingly powerful than anyone else, that his ONLY answer to the question "so, why aren't you imposing benevolent tyranny over the Earth and killing everyone who becomes a problem" is "because it's axiomatically not my place." Once he decides that it IS his place, there's no longer any answer to the question.
Kakara's in a somewhat different position.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Yeah, for anybody holding out hope for the update dropping tonight: hold no hope. I'm exhausted, and know full well that anything I'd write now would be trash. I will write up this one tomorrow.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
@Andres110, per your instructions, I've used two of your remaining cookies.
Cariyaga
Handsome Gentleperson
- Location
- United States
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
To turn a moderate success into a critical one, right? Right?
Not to save us from dying and/or worse?
Nothing's All Upside
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
[X] Plan Attack Under Jamming
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
-[X] Write-in: Ask the incoming Senzu fighters to blanket Dandeer with sheer telepathic noise. If she's getting tactical advice from a subverted Seer, jamming her communications could take away that advantage. THEN...
-[X] Write-in: This cannot distract from what you're doing. Both Lords are effectively out the ability to make snap reactions, and Yammar is occupied. With both of you this coordinated, you don't need an opening. Use Instant Transmission together to get a clear shot at Dandeer and take her out of the fight. Whatever's happening, she is the linchpin.
Nothing's All Upside
You hiss in fury. You need to jam her from any communications -- the Senzus-
-best way to use them, apart from Uncle Dandelor, says Jaffur.
You nod, and broadcast. All Senzus, as soon as you enter the Hall, start screaming at Dandeer with telepathy! She's getting help from someone; drown them out!
You don't hear their acknowledgments -- they are, after all, still outside the Hall. But a moment later, they zip through the entrance, shoving aside the last people to make it out of the Hall, and you hear Dandeer yelp in distraction and pain. You react quickly, but Jaffur is faster. His hand hits your arm before your fingers hit your forehead, and-
vip
-he is, predictably, significantly quicker off the mark when you reappear next to his mother. He lashes out to take her down-
crack
-only for a shield to appear at the last moment. He blasts right through it, but the unexpected obstruction fouls his aim, and he misses by a hair. You hear him cursing in his mind, wondering how the hell she reacted in time-
-your eyes widen. Damn it, we waited for the Senzus! It has to be Sensei Carrick; it's the only way she'd have warning, and she did have warning, she must have if she blocked you! Not a lot of time, but we waited until they showed up, so at least a couple of seconds.
It doesn't matter, he states, straightening from his first strike. His mother hasn't even managed yet to blink at the destruction of her shield. She can't correct in time. Now we end this, and she dies.
You wrestle with yourself for a moment about whether or not to contest that; on the one hand, you do not, cannot agree with it, and on the other, now is not the time to be distracting Jaffur with these kinds of things. You haven't yet come to a conclusion on the topic when you belatedly realize that Synchronicity is still active, and Jaffur can hear everything you're thinking.
In the middle of winding up for his strike, Jaffur flinches, and hesitates. Just for a moment of frenzied calculation that you can feel, where he weighs his hatred for Dandeer against your disapproval against the threat Dandeer presents against the fact that this is his mother and he's only now realizing how hard it is to make himself do it. Then it all crystallizes into certainty, and he shifts his weight forward to attack.
And then a blast streaks in and slams into Jaffur's back, as your father, now fully transformed, finishes turning around.
You whirl and barely block a blast headed for you. It jars you more than anything since Dazarel has, the sheer power of a golden oozaru threatening to bear you off your feet. You feel Jaffur's consciousness flickering-
-and then he hurtles back out of range of you, and you feel the thread of Synchronicity snap.
You lurch in sudden disorientation, and that second is a second your father uses. His arm snaps out, and he vaporizes Vegeta's tail. The other Lord, still berserk, roars in agony even as he begins to shrink. Then your father dashes forward and lashes out with a titanic fist, forcing you to hop back and away from Dandeer to avoid being crushed.
Jaffur! you send. Jaffur, are you alright?!
No response comes, although you can still feel Jaffur's ki signature.
Then the rest of the world gets around to reacting.
"JAFFUR!" screams Raditz, coming to a dead halt in shock at the sight before him. Behind him, Dandelor snarls and starts weaving some magic. The other Senzus, eyes wide, start fanning out, still sending Dandeer mental interference. Above you, Grandma and Yammar continue to struggle, although Yammar seems to be having trouble pinning your Grandma down.
And Dad roars at you, hovering at the absolute limit of the power level the wards can support.
You hang in midair, eyes wide, and cast around for your next move.
Jaffur is down, as is his Synchronicity spell. The Senzus have arrived, and cut off Dandeer from her increasingly-probable seer support. Vegeta is incapacitated for the purposes of this vote, but returning to base form. Dandelor has arrived and is engaging Dandeer while her concentration is ruined. Apra is in control of the tempo of her fight, although it's not even remotely over yet. Berra has finished transforming and is devoting his focus to you exclusively.
The situation has turned, and things are now more delicate than ever. What do you do over the next few seconds? Please choose only one of the following; this is over the scale of seconds, with the next break for voting coming as soon as something significant happens. As always, feel free to write in specific tactics as sub-votes, if you feel it necessary.
[ ] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[ ] Try to get around your father and take down Vegeta before he returns to base form. If you can even the numbers, you can still salvage this.
-[ ] Your father is powerful right now, but also slow. Just try to keep ahead of him, and focus on giving your Grandma fire support. Hopefully your interference will let her take him down quickly, and get her back in the fight.
-[ ] Square off with your father directly. You have the speed advantage; if you just fight defensively, you should be able to get him eventually.
-[ ] Keep going after Dandeer, in conjunction with Dandelor. She is as distracted as she is ever going to get. It'll mean getting past your father to do it, but you have the edge in speed; it should be doable.
-[ ] The Senzus can't reach Jaffur right now without turning into collateral damage. Focus on getting him to them for healing.
[ ] The tide has turned. It's time to start trying to cut your losses. Tell everybody that you've lost this one, and it's time to leave.
-[ ] Get to Jaffur and transmit him to the Hall.
-[ ] Evacuate Grandma.
-[ ] Screen the Senzus while they withdraw.
-[ ] The Hall is a potent symbol of legitimacy, and Dandeer's already going to be short of that after today. Carpet-bomb it; it's not like it'll harm the wards. As a bonus, you recall she has a workshop in her apartments; take extra care to wreck those.
-[ ] Get yourself out. ENDS THE FIGHT WITH KAKARA WITHDRAWING.
MANUAL MORATORIUM; APPROVAL VOTING.
Let's talk about this.
I notice some people in this thread taking a somewhat casual approach to the topic of killing; "It's most optimal," for one, "Really, saying you're never going to kill somebody is a naive viewpoint," for another. In general, people seem to take it for granted that the use of lethal force is a function solely of deciding that it's a ethically sound course of action. The issue is that it's not that simple. We live our entire lives in a society that preaches that killing is wrong, is one of the greatest crimes imaginable. The vast majority of people will never kill. That's a lesson propped up by the full force of our ludicrously hyperactive pack-bonding instincts. Exile culture is different from ours, but not that different, and the pack-bonding remains.
The thing that went wrong here was an oversight. Of course, Jaffur made it to Dandeer first. Of course, the situation prompted him to reconsider his prior agreement not to kill her. And with Synchronicity up, Kakara felt that, and he felt Kakara's reaction to him, immediately. Given our insight on how obsessed with Kakara Jaffur is, it should not be surprising that he hesitated -- if only for a moment. And on top of that...it is his mother. He hates her, but it is his mother. Hate and love are not mutually exclusive, and he still loves her. It is difficult enough to kill a stranger, in the full awareness of what it means.
That moment is important. Combat only takes heartbeats to resolve, once somebody makes a mistake. This vote elected to wait to attack Dandeer until the Senzus entered the Hall and started jamming. It only took a couple of seconds, but that was -- I rolled; I roll for everything -- just barely enough to give Dandeer time to receive warning before she started hearing screaming and only screaming. Thus, shield; thus, the first heartbeat lost. And all of this after a couple extra seconds for Berra to finish transforming. And, finally, the moment where Jaffur, who is only barely fourteen years old, despite everything, had to stare the prospect of murdering his mother dead in the eye.
And then, Berra finished turning around.
The delay for the Senzus to arrive, I believe you all will understand, in retrospect; that giving Dandeer just enough warning to raise a shield, I'm sure you will accept. The problem I anticipate, from how the thread discusses the subject, is people arguing that Jaffur shouldn't have hesitated before putting his hand through his mother's chest. On this one, folks: do not. The circumstances were different, but I have faced down that moment of truth myself. I hesitated. That hesitation nearly killed me, and even after I dealt with that, I didn't go through with it. Do not argue to me that it is easy to kill.
* * *
All that being said, I hope you've enjoyed the update, folks. Consider your choices carefully. I'm going to exercise a modicum of foresight and absent myself from the thread for a bit, but I'll be back probably tomorrow. See you around!
Oh, and in case somebody's wondering, the cookies went to resisting Berra's attack completely without injury, and to the Senzus' mental screaming, which is now debuffing Dandeer in addition to simply jamming communications. You are still at full capacity, and she is, particularly given Dandelor's incipient attack, not going to be up to much of anything. The cookies did not go to the obvious; they wouldn't have helped.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
@PoptartProdigy is there any reason we can't just instant transmission into Dandeers face and head butt her out (not kill just knock out?)
I mean you said it yourself she isn't going to be doing much of anything.
I mean you said it yourself she isn't going to be doing much of anything.
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
. . .
Well, that went sub-optimally.
For the moment, I believe we can discount Apra and Yammar.
The Senzus are engaged, and can be discounted unless and until one of the controlled SSJs act against them.
Jaffur is down, but aid is coming to him.
Dandeer is still the likely 'win button', but we are not well-positioned to act against her.
As I see it, we have only two real options: try to disable Berra (unlikely in the time available) or try to break the spell on him.
High-Risk, High-Reward mode, go!
[] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[] Try to break your Father out of his mind control.
--[] Freeze in mid-air, and drop your Power Level to 80,000,000. Any attack from your father which connects will end you. You know he won't do that.
Sometimes, being a Pacifist-based character means standing your ground and not fighting, even when it might be your death. If this works, we get Berra onto our side. If it fails, we will learn about the fallout when/if we awaken.
Well, that went sub-optimally.
For the moment, I believe we can discount Apra and Yammar.
The Senzus are engaged, and can be discounted unless and until one of the controlled SSJs act against them.
Jaffur is down, but aid is coming to him.
Dandeer is still the likely 'win button', but we are not well-positioned to act against her.
As I see it, we have only two real options: try to disable Berra (unlikely in the time available) or try to break the spell on him.
High-Risk, High-Reward mode, go!
[] Fight on. You can still win this.
-[] Try to break your Father out of his mind control.
--[] Freeze in mid-air, and drop your Power Level to 80,000,000. Any attack from your father which connects will end you. You know he won't do that.
Sometimes, being a Pacifist-based character means standing your ground and not fighting, even when it might be your death. If this works, we get Berra onto our side. If it fails, we will learn about the fallout when/if we awaken.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Why?
Gogo gadget instant teleportation behind Dandeer whose "helpless" (she isn't of course she never is) knock her out and use her as a shield if we have to we know Berra won't try to hurt her.
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
- Location
- United States
And once again Kakaras pacifistic BS makes things far far harder then it has to be.
Honestly I have no idea why I'm still reading this beyond wanting to see Dandelor finally fucking die.
Honestly I have no idea why I'm still reading this beyond wanting to see Dandelor finally fucking die.