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I think the wisest move now is going to be figuring out what Dandeer's next move is.

Or alternately, what method she's going to use to turn Berra into her loyal attack dog again.
The latter is a possible subset of the former.

You should know better than to jinx it...

Dandeer has had years to prepare for this day, after all, and we know she's good at prepwork.

So a couple surprises are probably in play if we roll badly.

I'm leaning towards sitting and waiting. This is the wrong time to be travelling out of body.
Do visions of the future involve us having an out-of-body experience? Or do they just involve us being unconscious?

@PoptartProdigy , does Kakara know an answer for this?

We have enough fuel for 1 vision and 1 projection. Contacting Jaffur requires projection so we could still have a vision after contacting him.
The potential monkey wrench in the works there is that deliberately triggering a vision OR projection takes meditation and time; it's not instantaneous. We may not have time for both before Dandelor and/or Jaffur finish cracking the seal.
 
Ah. So they're basically the biological reason for super saiyan having a power level pre-requisite?
I see them more as a biological reason why half-humans, threequarter-humans, and so forth through breeding the last remaining Earth saiyans into humans and such until present day hasn't completely eliminated the trait. If the trait is not genetic, but is instead a symbiote like mitochondria, midichlorians, chloroplasts, or s-cells, then it makes sense. It doesn't matter that your genetics are only 1/128th saiyan. You had an s-cell in your zygote, either from an s-containing sperm or an s-containing egg. And it multiplied along with the rest of your body cells during your fetal development when the rest of your cells grew. If there's also an f-cell that acts as life support, and a n-cell that acts as a totipotent regenerative scaffold, then Cell's name and "core cells" not only make more sense, but also makes Dr. Gero's job of making him significantly easier.
 
[X] Sit patiently and wait.
-[X] Try to get Jaron to calm down.

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Fallout to Unsealing and Dandeer

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Near future, confrontation with Dandeer.
 
[JK] Do the Dance of Barely Contained Glee at Having Almost Accomplished a Critical Life Goal.
 
I'll close this tomorrow, folks. Here's the tally with which you must work:

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[X] Sit patiently and wait.
-[X] Try to get Jaron to calm down.
No. of Votes: 17

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Near future, confrontation with Dandeer.
No. of Votes: 7

[x] Sit patiently and wait.
No. of Votes: 6

[X] Visit Jaffur one last time to see if his head is in the right space. Rebalance him if he needs it.
No. of Votes: 3

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Fallout to Unsealing and Dandeer
No. of Votes: 3

[x] Sit patiently and wait.
-[x]tell him to keep his power level down when the seal breaks. We don't want to blow the wards and lose the element of surprise.
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 27

I will merge, or not merge, votes as presented above. If you all want to change the above, start arguing.

Politely. ;)
 
Futuresight is just visions, at your current level of mastery. Mind Projection is specific to presentsight.
Thank you. That being the case, it would seem that there is no reason to fear futuresight rendering us vulnerable because we're out-of-body. The danger is of course that we black out to the outside world for a little while.

But frankly, having our little blackout while Dandelor is casting his spell is almost certainly much, MUCH safer than having a blackout of equal duration at any point in the hours after he casts the spell, at least until we have in the short term 'resolved' and stabilized the situation so we don't have to worry about pissed-off super-saiyans zipping around or Dandeer already knowing FOR SURE that something is wrong.

This may be our best and/or last chance to use our Seer powers to gain information about the near future while we still can. We have a more intimate connection to the situation than any other Seer, on several possible levels (blood relative of those involved, know more about Dandeer than other Seers, will be personally involved, are more proximate to the event than almost any of them).

This is our last clearly defined moment of downtime in which nothing is on fire. After this point, we have NO assurance of future downtime, even for a minute, before the crisis is effectively over- for better, or for worse.

If this isn't "vision time," I don't know what is.

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Near future, confrontation with Dandeer.

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Fallout to Unsealing and Dandeer

...

This is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but my Internet access is going to be VERY curtailed for most if not all of tomorrow (and the rest of this week), so in my own personal case, let me just say:

[X] Any and all plans involving using Kakara's future-sight
 
[X] Vision time.
-[X] Near future, confrontation with Dandeer.

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Fallout to Unsealing and Dandeer
 
This is our last clearly defined moment of downtime in which nothing is on fire. After this point, we have NO assurance of future downtime, even for a minute, before the crisis is effectively over- for better, or for worse.

We're past that point. We need to be aware and ready to act.
Any divination should have been done before this, not while basically daring Dandeer to do her worst
 
This is a bit tongue-in-cheek, but my Internet access is going to be VERY curtailed for most if not all of tomorrow (and the rest of this week), so in my own personal case, let me just say:

[X] Any and all plans involving using Kakara's future-sight
Sure, make the tallying harder on me. :rolleyes: I'll take it this time, assuming that people don't make a habit of it.
 
[X] Vision time.
-[X] Near future, confrontation with Dandeer.

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Fallout to Unsealing and Dandeer


Fuck it. Let's roll those dice
 
I don't get why people think we need to spend time unconscious when we have all the Seers already working for us on this very issue...
 
I don't get why people think we need to spend time unconscious when we have all the Seers already working for us on this very issue...
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[X] Sit patiently and wait.
-[X] Try to get Jaron to calm down.
No. of Votes: 17

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Near future, confrontation with Dandeer.
No. of Votes: 10

[X] Vision time.
-[X] Fallout to Unsealing and Dandeer
No. of Votes: 7

[x] Sit patiently and wait.
No. of Votes: 6

[X] Visit Jaffur one last time to see if his head is in the right space. Rebalance him if he needs it.
No. of Votes: 3

[X] Any and all plans involving using Kakara's future-sight
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 31

T'would seem that they don't. Vote closed.

Your winner:

[X] Sit patiently and wait.
-[X] Try to get Jaron to calm down.
 
Yay! I did a good write-in.

Also, I'm sure that if things were going to go badly, teh Seers (including at least one Master-class seer with a vested interest in our well-being) who have been helping would have spoken up. If they didn't speak up, then it is safe to assume that there is nothing THEY CAN SEE that will go badly wrong.

I don't think we can See anything they can't, which is why I didn't vote for the Sight options.

There's plenty of ways this can go wrong, to be sure. But if the Sight could help, we would already know (unless that knowledge were harmful to getting a good outcome, and that was Seen). So either we're fine, or knowing we aren't fine will make us less fine.

And now I've gone cross-eyed.
 
Yay! I did a good write-in.

Also, I'm sure that if things were going to go badly, teh Seers (including at least one Master-class seer with a vested interest in our well-being) who have been helping would have spoken up. If they didn't speak up, then it is safe to assume that there is nothing THEY CAN SEE that will go badly wrong.

I don't think we can See anything they can't, which is why I didn't vote for the Sight options.

There's plenty of ways this can go wrong, to be sure. But if the Sight could help, we would already know (unless that knowledge were harmful to getting a good outcome, and that was Seen). So either we're fine, or knowing we aren't fine will make us less fine.

And now I've gone cross-eyed.
You mean the seers that have little experience getting past magically sealed memories of when Dandeer brutalized herself?
 
Yeah. It's a moot point now, but for future reference:

We've been explicitly told that it's much easier for Seers to focus on an event they're going to be personally involved in, that affect people who are closer to them, and at times when they are very close to the events in question so that there isn't too much of a 'tree of possibilities' outcome to deal with.

It is very likely that Kakara will never be the greatest of Seers in terms of pure talent. That honor almost certainly belongs to someone who monomaniacally focuses on Seer training, just like Dandeer has become the greatest living Exile sorceror by focusing entirely on her sorcery skills for many years. Kakara can't match that; she has too much else to do, too many competing demands on her attention and effort that she can't shrug off.

However, because by the nature of things Kakara will be wrapped up in important events much more intimately than anyone else, she may still get visions no one else can have. We already had this happen with Dazarel, in that Kakara got vision access regarding the dragon that nobody else had, due to the fact that she personally was going to be fighting it.
 
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