- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Unfortunately, unless we deliberately have our confrontation right outside the Senzu compound it's probably not workable then.
Dragon Ball: After the End
- Location
- Italy
you're all worrying a bit too much about Jaron. We should ask, but i assume he is inside Jaffur's head, and they probably can exchange control of the body when they want to (using a normal Mask maybe). After all we broke the seal, but we didn't create a body for him.
Not yet.
Seen as a passive genkidama on (nearly) dead namek was about as strong as 50% to 75% frieza, it would probably be a few hundred millions by itself. @PoptartProdigy would we need to roll again to control the spirit saiyan, or was it a "once only" roll? Would it be easier with less power/people?
Other than contacting Fren (and maybe Maya, but it's probably unnecessary at this point) I can't think of anything else we need to do.
Unless... how about we ask for advice to Gohan?
He might know something we don't, and even if he doesn't we can always get something else usefull from him.
Worst case, he knows nothing more about Dandeer, has no pertinent advice and we can ask him some tips about a lost technique, maybe he knows why our saiyan researchers are still failing the fusion dance for example. Or he can tell us more about the alien invaders. Or about 17,18 and Buu. Or Frieza. Or we can simply ask him why he can't simply contact us through telepathy like the Z-warriors did in the past.
EDIT: or we can ask him how to cope with our "sensing everything die" problem
Not yet.
Seen as a passive genkidama on (nearly) dead namek was about as strong as 50% to 75% frieza, it would probably be a few hundred millions by itself. @PoptartProdigy would we need to roll again to control the spirit saiyan, or was it a "once only" roll? Would it be easier with less power/people?
Other than contacting Fren (and maybe Maya, but it's probably unnecessary at this point) I can't think of anything else we need to do.
Unless... how about we ask for advice to Gohan?
He might know something we don't, and even if he doesn't we can always get something else usefull from him.
Worst case, he knows nothing more about Dandeer, has no pertinent advice and we can ask him some tips about a lost technique, maybe he knows why our saiyan researchers are still failing the fusion dance for example. Or he can tell us more about the alien invaders. Or about 17,18 and Buu. Or Frieza. Or we can simply ask him why he can't simply contact us through telepathy like the Z-warriors did in the past.
EDIT: or we can ask him how to cope with our "sensing everything die" problem
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Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
- Location
- Something Clever
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Possible. Probable, even. However, consider: the cost of asking is a few minutes of our time. The cost of not asking and having guessed wrong is potential catastrophe for the plan. Probably worth making absolutely sure we won't be dealing with any nasty surprises, yes?
- Location
- Italy
oh, i agree. To be clear, i'm ok with asking. I WANT to ask. It's just that people seem a bit too worried about it.
- Location
- The Temple of the Winds
imo -[] "Wait, where's Jaron?" is the most important part. But i definitively would like a plan with Multiform, since diplomacy is the order of the day rather than just raw overwhelming personal power.
... And if it come to a fight, the clones can simply IT and fuse in a few seconds.
... And if it come to a fight, the clones can simply IT and fuse in a few seconds.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
It is not counting hair. Genetics smiled fondly on Jaffur, and the saiyan growth spurt caught him early.
Of course you'll address it if you find something critical.
You only needed to roll the once.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
I can see the effects of Naruto fanfiction.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
Oh, really?I can see the effects of Naruto fanfiction.
Click that link, and marvel at the sensation of seeing double digit pages once more.
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
It's retroactive.Click that link, and marvel at the sensation of seeing double digit pages once more.
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Clearly we have to invent Ki Shapeshifting, so that we can be taller than him and stop being the shortest person in every room. I'm formally motioning for this to be added as one of our long-term priorities
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
We just need Multi-form and a really big trenchcoat.Clearly we have to invent Ki Shapeshifting, so that we can be taller than him and stop being the shortest person in every room. I'm formally motioning for this to be added as one of our long-term priorities
Bakkasama
There is always a greater fool
- Location
- Buenos Aires, Argentina
- Pronouns
- He/his
@PoptartProdigy would doing the genki dama pop the Senzu wards? Can people tell if we are Spirit Saiyan with ki sense?
I ask because if Berra refuses to cooperate for some reason, being spirit saiyan would be the safest way to contain him but at the same time we probably don't want to walk in like we are expecting a fight.
I ask because if Berra refuses to cooperate for some reason, being spirit saiyan would be the safest way to contain him but at the same time we probably don't want to walk in like we are expecting a fight.
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
It would not unless you draw ki from an individual with enough power to pop the wards. Given that those individuals — you, Jaffur, Yammar, and Apra — might soon have pressing need of that ki, you won't be asking.
- Location
- Somewhere I shouldn't be
We could always ask Dad, so he's got less available if it comes to a fight.
All we'd need to do is pass a Deceit check as to why we needed it!
All we'd need to do is pass a Deceit check as to why we needed it!
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
If we want to convince him we should try and be as honest as we can. The truth is on our side. We might want to put our armor on however.
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- Location
- Italy
i would also give our spare to Jaffur. It will help him make a stronger impression.
..is the armor unisex? Otherwise Yammar should have a spare for him.
Appearance is important here.
Liked so I could dislike. The most important thing will always be beefcake. >=(
Quest
The Great One
- Location
- Everywhere
We should dress in a gi.
- Location
- California
I'm going to say that we probably don't need a spirit bomb. Worst case scenario if dad tries to defend her, that's still four super sayians to one.
- Location
- Italy
maybe, but it only takes us a few minutes for a few hundred millions bonus to our power level with passive drawing, and considerably more if we take energy from all conspirators except the super saiyans.
It's free energy. No reason not to have it. We can also use it to overcharge Jaffur's and Dandelor's spells if needed
- Location
- Italy
[ ] Take these last moments to do something before proceeding to the plan as established.
-[ ] Get a feel for Jaffur's present state of mind.
-[ ] "Wait, where's Jaron?"
-[ ] Contact Jii-chan through vision. Ask for any last minute advice. If he doesn't have any, let's not waste the visit and ask for any information/tip about lost techniques he might want to share, or a way to cope with feeling everything's death through ki sense. Or why he and all the z-fighters can't/don't contact the living through telepathy like they did in the past.
-[ ]Contact Fren with telepathy, have her ready at the hall for later
-[ ] Start forming the Genki Dama. Don't make a planetary broadcast yet, but there are plenty of noncombatants in on the plan and within your telepathy range who could donate, and there's always passive drawing.
too much?
-[ ] Get a feel for Jaffur's present state of mind.
-[ ] "Wait, where's Jaron?"
-[ ] Contact Jii-chan through vision. Ask for any last minute advice. If he doesn't have any, let's not waste the visit and ask for any information/tip about lost techniques he might want to share, or a way to cope with feeling everything's death through ki sense. Or why he and all the z-fighters can't/don't contact the living through telepathy like they did in the past.
-[ ]Contact Fren with telepathy, have her ready at the hall for later
-[ ] Start forming the Genki Dama. Don't make a planetary broadcast yet, but there are plenty of noncombatants in on the plan and within your telepathy range who could donate, and there's always passive drawing.
too much?
- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
You might be disappointed, then; he's got muscle, but Jaffur's pretty slender.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
If we want to put the put in ourselves we need to go super saiyan which would pop these wards.