Mattman324
you expected some anime, non-IRL giant robot, eh?
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- Working in the basement on my giant robot.
Supposedly he owns every major oil company except Dinoco, so this is probably accurate.
DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
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Supposedly he owns every major oil company except Dinoco, so this is probably accurate.
Shere Khan has no trouble cooperating with others as long as he gets a cut at the very least.
And his mottos are "Always pay your debts." and "Never break a deal."
All we need to do is make a deal to mutually work towards fusion power and and any other energies we might be working on, make sure he's in on it for distribution alone, and we have a solid ally.
And his mottos are "Always pay your debts." and "Never break a deal."
All we need to do is make a deal to mutually work towards fusion power and and any other energies we might be working on, make sure he's in on it for distribution alone, and we have a solid ally.
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mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
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Why do we need to reach out to Khan? Forget him, he's unimportant. So what, he has fusion power? We have much more advanced alien hyperfuel and Flubber. Can't go wrong with those things.
Also, what is with the sudden desire to check out the Wasteland? We're fighting on too many fronts to worry about stuff like that! Until we can either knock off Doom or put Toffee in a much more manageable position, we shouldn't go picking fights with random Kings! Unless you have a plan to knock out AUTO in one or two turns, we should forget about it. Same with the Zaibatsu and BH6; we've got too much stuff going on right now to worry about it
Also, what is with the sudden desire to check out the Wasteland? We're fighting on too many fronts to worry about stuff like that! Until we can either knock off Doom or put Toffee in a much more manageable position, we shouldn't go picking fights with random Kings! Unless you have a plan to knock out AUTO in one or two turns, we should forget about it. Same with the Zaibatsu and BH6; we've got too much stuff going on right now to worry about it
Olivebirdy
mook.
I might just be tired, but why wouldn't Khan want a monopoly on power? He has one now, the tactic seems to work for him. The term in the description was 'stranglehold'.
Flubber power isn't that easy if someone else is specifically campaigning against it. It's already considered dangerous, it's a hard sell even without opposition from a rival.
Now, people keep saying it doesn't cost us anything to be nice. This is true. It only costs us opportunity, the potential to become much richer. We're not losing anything by not competing in the energy market. If Shere Khan does patent fusion and refuses to use or share it, if he keeps the idea of Flubber completely toxic, we'll be locked out of a very large potential money stream, but it technically wouldn't cost us anything.
Edit: We don't have Flubber energy and hyperfuel. We'd need to find or synthesize the latter and I'm unsure it'll work for mass energy generation and the former would be incredibly easy for Khan to poison. Apparently we're not allowed to blow off the lid on Hawaii.
Flubber power isn't that easy if someone else is specifically campaigning against it. It's already considered dangerous, it's a hard sell even without opposition from a rival.
Now, people keep saying it doesn't cost us anything to be nice. This is true. It only costs us opportunity, the potential to become much richer. We're not losing anything by not competing in the energy market. If Shere Khan does patent fusion and refuses to use or share it, if he keeps the idea of Flubber completely toxic, we'll be locked out of a very large potential money stream, but it technically wouldn't cost us anything.
Edit: We don't have Flubber energy and hyperfuel. We'd need to find or synthesize the latter and I'm unsure it'll work for mass energy generation and the former would be incredibly easy for Khan to poison. Apparently we're not allowed to blow off the lid on Hawaii.
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mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
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The last time we tried to get into a friendly competition with another company, we had to drop it because we were too busy. And Shere Khan's not starting with a major blunder like ENCOM. So, what will go differently here?
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I mean, do we care if it goes differently? Us facing Encom was incredibly successful. We spent hardly any actions, got a ton of income, and then were able to freely change focus to other pastures. If we got an equivalent opportunity elsewhere I'd be all for taking it.
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You're allowed to do whatever you want, if you're willing to face the results of it.
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
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The question then is do we? Sure, collaborating with Khan would be nice, but what exactly would we have to sacrifice for such a relationship? I don't trust Khan to not sell us short, and currently? I'd rather focus on internal matters, like beefing our defenses and loyalty, and more immediate enemies, like Doom
We'd have to give as much as we expected to gain, like any other partnership or deal. Khan won't sell us short if we pay attention as that would be breaking the deal.
Doesn't need to be done right away, but it is something to look to in the future.
Better we have all the saner kings on our side
Doesn't need to be done right away, but it is something to look to in the future.
Better we have all the saner kings on our side
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Reaching to Shere Khan might be usefull even if he reject our help on fusion : to deal with Zootopia if we ever get involved with it !
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I'm not expecting her to spill about her plans, insidious or not. However, if we think about what we might gain, establishing a relationship with Olympia as a company is probably and laying groundwork for collaboration is probably just a normal success. On a crit, especially using a hero like Mirage, who mechanically and narratively has insider knowledge of what used to be Kronos, the action would probably give us the opportunity to check in with other Olympia employees - including renewing our acquaintance with people like Winston and Sinatron.
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
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And we want to get drawn into another conflict, why?!?!?
weredrago2
"Cowabunga, Shadow the Hedgehog..."
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- Florida
I had to double check in case someone did over our work, but no, I don't see a mention of Asia. That said, our next round of edits should better clarify what goes where.
Mattman324
you expected some anime, non-IRL giant robot, eh?
- Location
- Working in the basement on my giant robot.
We're not planning to pick a fight. We have literally no good information on that area. The quest is for information and resource retrieval.
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- The great frozen north
OK, Shere Khan wants a monopoly on fusion power. What can he do to harm the 2 1/2-state area if we decided to make our own fusion power anyway?
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
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You sure? It deliberately says "send in the troops", which sounds pretty hostile to me. The fact that people are suggesting we send high-Martial characters does little to assuage these fears
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Yeah...I'm with manga on this. We've frankly got enough on our plate even without reaching out to Khan about a possible collaboration. Frankly, the only reason I'm even considering reaching out to Khan is because fusion power can take care of all our power troubles while being unobjectionable to 99% of the globe.
Unless Bellweather starts making moves in our territory, I say we leave her alone until out to-do list is smaller.
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Also, I highly doubt AUTO is interested in starting or maintaining a fight with us or anyone else outside of his Wasteland. If there will be any long lasting Conflict, it would be solely us acting against him.
We have no reason now but who knows where we will be in 20 turns, having Shere one call away may be usefull then.
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The right profit-sharing arrangement. Say, Doofenshmirtz Evil Incorporated gets the licensing rights to build high-yield power plants in some defined region of the country, and Shere Khan's corporation whose name I forget gets the rights to do so in other regions.
Or we take our chances and see what happens, but importantly don't launch some foolish pre-emptive strike and actively undermine him prior to the point at which he is forced to begin antagonistic actions against us. Taking the strategic defensive favors us in many ways. It makes us the obviously wronged party and helps us win the PR war. It forces Shere Khan to find assets capable of actually hurting us, which may be difficult for him depending on the resources at his disposal. It means we are less exposed to risk.
Just... stop treating conflicts as absolute, black/white, inevitable things. Please.
Splitting profits with him in some organized fashion might be considerably more profitable than picking a fight with him.
Yeah. It's an opening move predicated on the assumption that we know exactly what everyone else cares about and is going to do. And we should have learned that this is a bad assumption after all the time we wasted assuming we knew what Xanatos, of all people, did and didn't know about a powerful magical potential-threat he first encountered at least five turns ago.
To be fair, one of our 'more advanced' types of power is an alien hyperfuel that doesn't exist in our solar system and will have to be laboriously synthesized (probably not an energy-efficient process), and the other is spectacularly unpopular due to being believed to have blown up Hawaii.
It's very likely that we can at least scout the Wasteland and, say, pick up some of the garbage without ending up in a fight with AUTO. The plan isn't to aggressively attack or antagonize AUTO, it's just to take a look around. Furthermore, unlike many other Kings, AUTO is unlikely to start attacking us if we're not harming or threatening the Axiom, so it's relatively safe to poke that area in hopes of picking up useful things.
This is in contrast to the zaibatsu, who are likely to start sending ninja supervillains our way or something if we irritate them. Or to Judge Doom, who's being Judge Doom. Or... you get the idea.
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- USA
Where are people getting these assumptions about giving stuff to get collaborations?
Unless I missed something all we know is we can roll to collaborate with someone and vote on what the collaboration will be.
Nothing about having to give up anything. I'm assuming all we need is to both want to research something and we would both get the research if we succeed.
Maybe it would be different for getting the martial second action with shego but I think people are making this way more complicated and divisive than it needs to be.
Unless I missed something all we know is we can roll to collaborate with someone and vote on what the collaboration will be.
Nothing about having to give up anything. I'm assuming all we need is to both want to research something and we would both get the research if we succeed.
Maybe it would be different for getting the martial second action with shego but I think people are making this way more complicated and divisive than it needs to be.
BlueWerewolf25
The Dreamer
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- Wouldn't You Like To Know?
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Word of Moon also says that Teamo Supremo was thrown from Hoover Dam. Explicitly not-confirmed for DoofQuest (as of now), but hey, it's a nice image to think about, yes?
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- The Z-Cave
Reaching out to Khan is completely beneficial even if we don't get fusion power out of it. It's simply better to have him as an ally than as a competitor or enemy. Khan is a forward keeping business man who keeps his word out of pragmatism so it would be pretty good to just set up an alliance so we don't step on each other's toes.
It's just as nice as the fact that in some negaverse dimension, alt!Made in Heaven is an avid fan of Teamo SupremoWord of Moon also says that Teamo Supremo was thrown from Hoover Dam. Explicitly not-confirmed for DoofQuest (as of now), but hey, it's a nice image to think about, yes?
