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- Novi Sad
Personally think it is more likely we would get King but i sure hope it gets us either of those two
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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
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- Crossover
AProcrastinator
You can Certainly Try
- Location
- Getting Somewhere
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- She/Hers
We critfail, we get Emperor Belos, and he clowns our collective hindquarters before using Doof's nose as a pair of dimensional scissors to get back to the Boiling Isles.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
A reminder that Shego has the highest Martial seen in the quest so far, Including 300% Genghis Khan, and the Doc's page flat out calls her the most dangerous and strongest King in a straight up fight (not counting Cypher of course).
Kim Possible beat her up on a regular basis.
Yeah, you don't side kick to "arguably the best fighter in human history, whose also a natural fantastic acrobat and pretty great at the stealth stuff" without being pretty darn fantastic yourself. It's sidekicking 101, you don't necessarily need to be as good as the hero, you don't necessarily need to metaphorically keep pace with the hero, but you need to be able to keep the hero in you're metaphorical sight lines and be more of a help then a nuisance.
Just not getting left behind by Kim is enough to prove that Ron is some sort of freak once in a lifetime prodigy.
Kim Possible beat her up on a regular basis.
Yeah, you don't side kick to "arguably the best fighter in human history, whose also a natural fantastic acrobat and pretty great at the stealth stuff" without being pretty darn fantastic yourself. It's sidekicking 101, you don't necessarily need to be as good as the hero, you don't necessarily need to metaphorically keep pace with the hero, but you need to be able to keep the hero in you're metaphorical sight lines and be more of a help then a nuisance.
Just not getting left behind by Kim is enough to prove that Ron is some sort of freak once in a lifetime prodigy.
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- I He Him His
Considering just what exactly Toffee is in this quest I am not sure if Shego holds the title of most dangerous fighter anymore. Shego is just one person with a group of supers backing her.Toffee IS the Dimension of Magic and has at least Kalaber and Halloweentown on call alongside any other dimensions he has conquered. In a straight fight against any other King except Bill he wins. The threat of him, Bill, Phobos, Doris and the many others like them are the whole reason behind the alliance. Some threats are too big to handle alone!
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- Somewhere
Phobos probably has a few tens or maybe even hundreds of worlds worth of sucked out energy to call up to too...
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- I He Him His
I had a strange thought so I looked up the timing for when Phineas and Ferb were available. The DC for City Council was way to high in the beginning and the resistance was not a thing until after the summer. The cheapest most cost effective way to meet the kids in the beginning was to look up videos during summer. Except last summer we were busy with Doofhawk. We used the one personal action we had left to try hanging out with our daughter and rolled a five.
Imagine we had succeeded and chose to watch videos. If we had picked up Phineas and Ferb at the soonest opportunity we would have lost so much more than we could have ever realized.
The turn after Doofhawk it was decided we needed more hero units so we chose to recruit villians. Thanks to a high roll we got both Technor and Mirage. Technor's therapy has been an integral part of this quest and without Mirage's experience there remains doubt we could have accomplished what happened at the Sands.
It should be noted that at the time of recruitment the one type of hero we were all so desperate for was a Stewardship hero. Look at Phineas and Ferb's stats and traits and tell me we would have done the recruitment also. I do not think I probably would have voted for it and I am sure some of you would have thought the same.
At the end of the day by not spotting the option for the boys when it was first presented we actually managed to luck into two permanent, full-time heroes without losing out on the boys even. That kind of happenstance is unique in this quest and is one of the many reasons I love it!
Imagine we had succeeded and chose to watch videos. If we had picked up Phineas and Ferb at the soonest opportunity we would have lost so much more than we could have ever realized.
The turn after Doofhawk it was decided we needed more hero units so we chose to recruit villians. Thanks to a high roll we got both Technor and Mirage. Technor's therapy has been an integral part of this quest and without Mirage's experience there remains doubt we could have accomplished what happened at the Sands.
It should be noted that at the time of recruitment the one type of hero we were all so desperate for was a Stewardship hero. Look at Phineas and Ferb's stats and traits and tell me we would have done the recruitment also. I do not think I probably would have voted for it and I am sure some of you would have thought the same.
At the end of the day by not spotting the option for the boys when it was first presented we actually managed to luck into two permanent, full-time heroes without losing out on the boys even. That kind of happenstance is unique in this quest and is one of the many reasons I love it!
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Most of these don't prove what you think they prove.
1) Becoming a superhero along with her brothers as a child just means she wants to cooperate with her brothers, not that she's stupid or can't plan. Staying until she can't take it anymore is exactly what you'd expect from someone who tries to please family.
2) Wanting to become villainous out of a lack of altruism but not becoming an independent supervillain doesn't mean she's brain-damaged. Certainly this quest's version of Shego, who's been running a large territory and megacorp for years, doesn't have this problem.
3) Your talk about uniforms criticizes her fashion sense, not her planning ability.
Again, half your critique focuses on her fashion sense, not her planning ability.
It IS true that she has a problem with making big plans for herself. But 'brain damage' is neither necessary nor sufficient to explain that. And, again, this quest's version of Shego must necessarily have adapted to that to some extent.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
Also, forming a think tank to do your thinking for you is a perfectly valid strategy. Having the wisdom to realize that you don't know everything and aren't a perfect planner isn't something everyone is sharp enough to realize.
AProcrastinator
You can Certainly Try
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- Getting Somewhere
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- She/Hers
Yeah! We formed a Think Tank! Are we, the Questers of SV, collectively, idiots?
...on second thought, they may have a point.
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
In fact, we formed two think tanks! Though, one of them was LOVEMUFFIN.
I retract my argument.
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- Mid-Atlantic
The thing about think tanks is that there are two reasons to put things into a tank.
One is if you want to access it later.
The other is if it's a nasty toxic soup and you don't want it leaking out and contaminating the landscape.
Ask yourself, which kind of think tank is L.O.V.E.M.U.F.F.I.N.?
Especially since someone like Shego, while a good tactician with a good grasp of human nature, isn't an expert and has limited background in things like advanced technology and corporate logistics. Hiring people to do planning for her doesn't automatically mean she's somehow brain-damaged.
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- Michigan
- Pronouns
- They/Them
This reminds me of a fanfic I brainstormed on a Discord server. I had this idea of Kim being a Daughter of Athena, and it eventually expanded out to Bonnie being a Daughter of Aphrodite and Ron a Son of Ares and Grandson of Sun Wukong. It was a fun little session, but all we did was come up with the ideas, rather than actually write anything.
- Location
- USA
I'm really curious what happens if we crit during a reach out action. Hopefully we find out next turn if we crit shego.
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- being near locations is my passion.
I wanna poke zero point gauntlets. Chances are that the name is just bullshit (in terms of energy production) but there's a chance they are not, and from the movie, it looked like the stasis effect did not care for stregnth. Dunno how it meshed with breathing and internal stuff like psysic powers probably are not stopped, but still useful.
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- Germany
^This.
Honestly, from what little I know about KP, Shego always kinda struck me asl "Brilliant, but Lazy":
Pretty intelligent, perceptive and capable, but most of the time under Drakken she was content to ridicule his idiocy, file her gloves (maybe to not have it clog up her plasma powers due to wear and tear?) and lounge about, only getting actually active and even kinda excited whenever she could duke it out with Kimmie. Heck, her appearance in Doofquests shows what happens oncce she decides that she is just plain done with Drakkens blundering for good and simply take over his powerbase: she becomes a feared and strong CEO who effectively controls large swaths of the..."Midsouth"? Anyway, she made it very clear in the past to us that her patience for Doofs more Drakken-like behaviour is *Very limited* and that we´d regret truly crossing her by letting Hego come to harm (which also shows that she still cares for her siblings in *some* form). So yeah, I´d call her many things (easily annoyed, not the type for overly grandiose plots and apathetic to the rest of the world, but not "brain-damaged"
Inb4 we crit-*fail* and find ourselves immediately at "open war" with Shego (as "open" as the war could be considering the Masquerade, of course)
Not expecting that to happen (it´s a one-in-hundred chance, you know?), just pointing out that you didn´t specify the kind of crit we´d be getting.
Travler66
Let her name echo in song!
- Location
- Beyond
Hey, @Made in Heaven I asked earlier in the thread why Janna's loyalty didn't go up when we promised to find her friends, but I didn't get an answer.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Useful, but high-DC, and it doesn't synchronize well with our immediate plans or needs except as "cool shit."
We're currently pretty actively busy trying to get our dinosaur program on its feet, research human genetics, and advance our AI.
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- Germany
As some have said before, MiH will probably update Jannas Loyalty after the Dickens omake - after all, only then will we truly have kept our promise to look for Star/Marco, meaning that only afterwards will she see that we are walking the walk.
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- the Netherworld Dood
you underestimate her. She's had years to train and enhance her powers and she has at her beck and call an army of super powered people. Said supers should be able to walk right through Toffy's monster army without any real issue.
The big man himself would SURVIVE a fight with her but he probably wouldn't win. There's a reason why he doesn't want to tip his hand overmuch any of the real kings can pose a serious issue to him. Hell even we probably get a degree of wariness because we're the only ones to stright up announce our conquest and have a respectable army at our beck and call.
all the Real kings are dangerous in there own ways
It turns out things are oddly balanced. Werid but true
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
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- You'll neeever guess
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- He/Him/His
I've read some Kim Possible fanfics that say that Shego chose to work for Drakken on purpose as part of a larger plot. Think about it: on the one hand, you have being a solo supervillain. You have to do all the planning and the work and make sure everyone gets their fair cut of the loot you steal, and although you get a lot of respect, power, and wealth, you have people like Global Justice and Kim Possible focused on you specifically. On the other hand, you have working for Drakken. Still get lot's of wealth and good fights, but you are just a sidekick; you only have to worry about your share and your pay, GJ and KP still know you're a villain but don't consider you that major a threat, you don't have to come up with any plans, and Drakken is enough of a pushover to let you do whatever you want with the right amount of pressure, but not enough of a pushover to be truly pathetic.
So yeah: brilliant but lazy, yet leaning more towards brilliant in regular canon, more so in Doofquest.
I also hope (even though I know it's unlikely) that Kim is still alive. Why? 'Cause I'm a die-hard Kigo shipper, sue me
So yeah: brilliant but lazy, yet leaning more towards brilliant in regular canon, more so in Doofquest.
I also hope (even though I know it's unlikely) that Kim is still alive. Why? 'Cause I'm a die-hard Kigo shipper, sue me
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- Mid-Atlantic
Yeah.
What Shego 'lacks' is the megalomania required to bend one's whole life to some grand ambition like 'RULE ZE TRI-STATE AREA!' personally.
She's the sort of person who is well content to play the heavy hitter in another person's schemes, as long as it isn't too inconvenient and as long as they're not offensively stupid or nonsense-prone.
What Shego 'lacks' is the megalomania required to bend one's whole life to some grand ambition like 'RULE ZE TRI-STATE AREA!' personally.
She's the sort of person who is well content to play the heavy hitter in another person's schemes, as long as it isn't too inconvenient and as long as they're not offensively stupid or nonsense-prone.
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- Germany
Which essentially was her role for us during the Gala: We brought the subterfuge and she supplied the sheer fire power.
Additionally, she expected us to act all Drakken-like with harebrained schemes and idiotic blundering, but because we showed a surprising amount of competence, she then was far more loyal than she´d have been if Drakken with his usual shtick and fucked up such a Gala.
Barondoctor
The things I chase come to me.
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- The other side of the mirror
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
The people who understand the idea of four people having four specializations being more beneficial than four generalists are generally some form of economist.
Knowing that you can play the heavy and then eventually betray the mastermind and take over is not laziness. It's efficiency.
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- Germany
True, but I don´t expect Shego to backstab us without good reason, should we actually form some sort of formal long-term cooperation with each other.
Drakken was an incompetent buffoon to the core, so Shego having enough and deposing him would be fair enough.
Doof on the other hand can put his act together very well once prompted and should not be underestimated, so we should be safe for the moment.
Now that I think about it and after having watched some P&F clips, since Drakken and Doof are similar to each other, how would Shego react to *Norm or Vanessa*?
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- I He Him His
The main reason I brought up Kalabar is his canonical ability to control others with magic. Imagine if you will that Kalabar controls at least one member of Tom's family. Tom and presumably his family have the ability to resurrect the dead in a necromantic fashion as seen in Frenemies. The resurrected also still retain their skill and seen with Jackie Hand. With dimensional scissors no graveyard is safe. Imagine an army of undead totally pissed off supers who all want to kill any number of kings. This a power Toffe could theoretically already have and with him being a significant threat to Phobos it might just be the tip of the iceberg. Not to mention his final goal is now destruction of all human life! So yeah I would say he rates a more significant threat in the same way an evil Gal Fed would.