Let's be honest. We both want laser guns and space ships. Jumba can build them both. Ergo, we need Jumba.
Hey, we could totally do it on our own. It's just our hope this will be a cakewalk if we had him. Besides, this is with the assumption Jumba will be amenable and not bail for the wider Earth. He is after all a fugitive, and more likely to be safe on the lamb then in one spot.
 
If we can contact Phineas and Ferb do you think they would sell us their asteroid base? It already has a restaurant and a refill station for ships. With just a little work it could be made into a really good trade hub.
 
Hey, we could totally do it on our own. It's just our hope this will be a cakewalk if we had him. Besides, this is with the assumption Jumba will be amenable and not bail for the wider Earth. He is after all a fugitive, and more likely to be safe on the lamb then in one spot.
Yeah, I don't get the assumption that Jumba would be a massive help with space exploration just because he's not from Earth. He's a geneticist, not a rocket engineer.
 
Going to play devil's advocate here any say that the GalFed are treating humans as a protected species. Robots on the other hand...
Do we honestly think that GalFed understands humanity enough to not believe that Norm is just a very tall, very strange human? This is an organisation who's primary expert on human society/behaviour is Pleakley
Yeah, I don't get the assumption that Jumba would be a massive help with space exploration just because he's not from Earth. He's a geneticist, not a rocket engineer.
To be fair, Jumba does have his own ship that while he might not have built he did maintain it by himself for several years
 
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Yeah, I don't get the assumption that Jumba would be a massive help with space exploration just because he's not from Earth. He's a geneticist, not a rocket engineer.
He has a lot of evil science space degrees. By himself he could construct his own equipment for genetics projects and make cool vehicles for Lilo & Stitch to catch rogue experiments with. Even some kiddy-sized hovercars!
 
You sigh, pretty sure there's not a place on Earth that requires you to actually hold the deed in order to attain ownership. That's not how property law works.

Actually, Doof, that is exactly how property law works in one specific place on Earth - a little town in Oregon called Gravity Falls.

Well, that's how it used to work, but Gravity Falls doesn't really have what you'd call "property laws" anymore. Or laws in general. Including the laws of physics.

(this quest is amazing; please never stop writing it)
 
Glomgold? I'd sooner ally with Shego than that conniving duck.
I mean, really our only problem with Shego is that she controls part of the Tri-State Area and we do not, on account of how her capital city is in Colorado and she's not budging without a damn good reason.

Now that is obviously a major problem for our plans to RULE ZE TRI-STATE AREA!

I think we need to focus. Judge Doom is remote and relatively weak. He's a threat to the toons who still live in his territory, and he mismanages that territory terribly, but we are not in a good position to try to take his territory and rule over a distant exclave roughly a thousand miles from our border, on the far side of Syndrome's belt of controlled territory, and surrounded by the zaibatsu's domination of California.

Any ambitions we have of outright overthrowing a rival King should be focused either on Shego (to RULE ZE TRI-STATE AREA!) or on someone who actually poses an existential threat.

Gotta agree. Doof is the kind of guy that'd go out and do something himself if he felt it was warranted. Getting buff, or at least in shape is a good idea for him.
That's... not a bad idea!

Ability to adapt and try new things instead of just exactly repeating the old patterns may be one of the thing that let our Doof triumph where canon Doof did not!

I'm pretty sure Blue Hawaii was explicitly stated to not be time sensitive, meanwhile Doom has already sent agents after us and could be planning to do even more to us and others.
What he does to others is not our problem. What he does to us, well... frankly motivates counterintelligence operations and not much more.
 
or on someone who actually poses an existential threat.

Well, Syndrome probably will want to attack us now, as we do have Hego working for us. And Syndrome isn't exactly... sane when it comes to heroes/capes. So, we could try to take him out, then move to take out Doomtown.

... really, Syndrome and Judge Doom both have reasons to target us. But one's tiny while the other one has a super robot. So... yeah, Syndrome is, in actually fighting ability, more dangerous to us. And I don't think just sending the Khan and Norm against him and his super-robo in combat will really do much. Then again, that's where SCIENCE(read: wither hacking or creating a super virus to force it offline) comes in!
 
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You know, it's theoretically possible that Hego might not be terrible at Stewardship

Sure he's an idiot but he's an idiot that was the manager of the worlds largest Bueno Nacho when it was still around, even managing to organise successful focus groups on their menu items, and led a team of semi-successful superheroes for several years
 
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Sure he's an idiot but he's an idiot that was the manager of the world largest Bueno Nacho when it was still around, even managing to organise successful focus groups on their menu items, and led a team of semi-successful superheroes for several years
Benefits get? Yes, please.

I kid, but it's been 4 months in-universe and we still don't have a dental plan.
 
I mean, really our only problem with Shego is that she controls part of the Tri-State Area and we do not, on account of how her capital city is in Colorado and she's not budging without a damn good reason.
Why the heck would she have her capital there of all places? Capital cities should be at central locations to what it is capital of. It also should have a high population already, so looking at things, the best place Shego has for a capital city is Dallas, a much better location considering that the mountains of Colorado would likely isolate the capital from the rest of her territory.
 
Why the heck would she have her capital there of all places? Capital cities should be at central locations to what it is capital of. It also should have a high population already, so looking at things, the best place Shego has for a capital city is Dallas, a much better location considering that the mountains of Colorado would likely isolate the capital from the rest of her territory.

You gotta remember that except for us and the exclusion zones, King's don't operate their territories as nation-states; more like spheres of influence. Shego herself let us get Bueno Nacho, a foothold in her territory, because it didn't matter in the game we're playing.

The world DoofQuest is in is basically Shadowrun with Disney. We don't have grand battles between armies, we have proxy wars and sabotage and so forth. When we fortify, it's against infiltration, not assault.

Not to mention, Middleton is where Shego operated out of for a long time. There's inertia keeping her there if nothing else.
 
Benefits get? Yes, please.

I kid, but it's been 4 months in-universe and we still don't have a dental plan.
We did bring up the position of benefits manager with him when we gave him our hiring pitch.

Well, Syndrome probably will want to attack us now, as we do have Hego working for us. And Syndrome isn't exactly... sane when it comes to heroes/capes.
Also, we're between him and Shego, who he probably really wants to get at.

Because she doesn't just harbor or hire the occasional cape. She IS a cape.

And she has specifically turned her territory into a refuge for capes to an even greater extent than we have for toons. And her entire style of running the place is centered around this 'having powers makes you special and we'll totally let that give you an advantage in life" schtick, which is maximally opposed to Syndrome's own desires and ambitions.

On the other hand, Syndrome has his own problems.

His territory is landlocked. It consists mainly of Nevada, Idaho, and upstate/inland Washington and Oregon. Aside from Las Vegas where he keeps hi capital, these are territories that in real life are known for mining, grain, cattle, far-right militias, and not much else. His economic and industrial powerbase may well be thinner and lighter than one might otherwise expect, forcing him to rely very heavily on a relative handful of superweapons that are spread out controlling a lot of land. And he's got the zaibatsu for neighbors, and they have access to the relatively large economy of California plus possible foreign assets.

And the poor bastard has to share a land border with... whatever is going on inside the Oregon Triangle, which is a whole different order of problem than anything he's ever faced, and I suspect his mental toolkit for dealing with it is basically reduced to "build better robots," which probably isn't cutting it very well.
 
Looking at the map the south is ruled by Toffee. Next turn we get an occult action. Now I know in character we have no reason to assume the problem is magic but can investigating the strange anomaly happening in Arizona go in Occult from now on?
 
And the poor bastard has to share a land border with... whatever is going on inside the Oregon Triangle, which is a whole different order of problem than anything he's ever faced, and I suspect his mental toolkit for dealing with it is basically reduced to "build better robots," which probably isn't cutting it very well.

... actually, that's an idea. We could figure out that Bill exists and show Syndrome undeniable proof that he exists... while probably doctoring it so either Bill or his minions look like capes. A pipe dream, that last part is. Still, it would mean he'd have to focus on dealing with Bill before he'd be able to deal with us. Then, once he's done throwing robot after robot at Bill, and Bill is taken care of by Occult means, we can team up with Mortal Enemy Shego to beat him up. Then we can beat up Judge Doom.

... of course, that's if he believes that any proof we bring us real. And that his robots can't just pummel Bill out of existence. Or that he won't try to research the Occult himself and try to uograde his robots so they can, actually, pummel Bill to death.

Why would Doof think to use magic to investigate it?
Just to see if any of the other "Kings" have magic on their side. That'd be the easiest justification, after all.
 
I'm honestly half-expecting the first incursion by Syndrome or some other really bad nasty to be met going the other way by Goofy, Temujin, Norm, Russ and Hego as a sort of Avengers expy. Captain Goofy: "I'm 'bout to hyuck you up!"
 
Why the heck would she have her capital there of all places? Capital cities should be at central locations to what it is capital of. It also should have a high population already, so looking at things, the best place Shego has for a capital city is Dallas, a much better location considering that the mountains of Colorado would likely isolate the capital from the rest of her territory.
I think her capital is in Denver Middleton which is built on the site of roughly Denver, because that's where she started out and she didn't feel like relocating after securing Drakktech's economic control over Texas or wherever. She just spins off metahuman viceroyalties and makes sure the money and homage keep rolling in.

I mean, the US's overall capital is practically right on the Atlantic Ocean. Why didn't we relocate to, say, Chicago or St. Louis when it became clear just how far west the country's overall economic center of gravity would eventually shift? Well, for a lot of reasons.

Shego has her reasons too, I'm sure.

Looking at the map the south is ruled by Toffee. Next turn we get an occult action. Now I know in character we have no reason to assume the problem is magic but can investigating the strange anomaly happening in Arizona go in Occult from now on?
If we don't know it's occult, we probably won't think to treat it as an occult problem. Especially since our own occult capabilities are very limited since two months ago we were like only 80% sure magic was even real.

Because if whatever we're investigating isn't occult, we have better tools at our disposal to look into it, and if whatever we're investigating is occult, then whoever's down there is probably a lot better at it than we are and may make us regret it.
 
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