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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
- Start date
- Crossover
daedalus725
Kell of Kells, godking of Planet X
- Location
- Daedalus crater, The moon
Dinosaur theme park
Hmm, I wonder if Doofenshmirtz still have the shrinkantor still in the building. He used it as a planter and from what I remember, he never got around to unplugging it or having the self-destruct button pressed. A surprise in case someone tries into the building and crit fails perhaps?
- Location
- Peterborough, NH, USA
So, with Omnidroid research, are we just incorporating bits of them into the Norm Bots? I'm pretty sure people would realize we stole the design if we just started making them wholesale, but is there anything else we can do with them?
I have this image of the Antborgs, Hoplites, Cogs, Drakktech robots, whatever McGucket/Von Drake/Gensokyo can contribute, and Iron Gargoyles all getting absorbed into the Normbots. The end result would probably be even better than current Norm Prime when combined with the chip.
Even if they individually only knock a 5 or so off the DC each, they'd likely guarantee a crit on the next instance, as well as providing some variety for different situations, since the Normbots are generalist enough to be of use practically anywhere, but specialists have their place. I'm imagining the Pantheons of Megaman Zero and all their sub-types, but with Normbots.
I wonder how the other kings would take an alliance of the Semi-Sane, as discussed a while back. Doof's robots are superior to just about everybody's stuff below the absolute top-of-the-line, so they'll probably be at least helpful, especially if this is post-upgrade, and a lot of low-tier Supers would have trouble with post-upgrade Normbots in any significant numbers. Heck, 5 of them now would be an issue for a lot of low-end Supers.
More relevantly, between Shere Khan's resources, Xanatos' scheming and magical knowledge, and the tech Shego and Doof bring to the table, including the resources and robotics knowledge to simply drown enemies conventional Hero balls would have trouble with, Bill's about the only one who could actually stop them through non-Intrigue means. Doof would probably be pretty okay with just the Tri-State Area, ruling the world is rather too much work when his 'nation' is already bigger than his homeland and he already has plenty of prestige and is on the verge of cracking fusion, which will put him up there with Einstein and Hawking. Not sure what the limits of Shego, Khan, and Xanatos' ambitions would be. Shego canonically took over the world in one timeline, but that was due in part to a closed timeloop of her future self manipulating things. Shere Khan seems to have been more or less content with economic dominance of his state in canon. Xanatos... I'm honestly not sure if my read on him is good enough to make a prediction there.
Such an alliance would be nearly unstoppable unless something crazy happened like Toffee teaming up with Bill or the government said 'screw it!' and tried to nuke them literally or metaphorically. Internal disputes seem like the most likely breaking point here. Shego at least somewhat respects Doof, but doesn't especially like him. Xanatos is starting to open relations, but hasn't solidified yet. Shere Khan barely interacts with us. I'm convinced this is our best shot at a Victory that isn't a long grinding slog or a race against a Bill-shaped clock though. The question, is, somewhat ironically, if Doof can hold such an alliance together. Khan and Xanatos are too manipulative for Shego to ever fully trust them, and they are unlikely to be particularly trusting of each other beyond business relationships. Shego is great at fighting and spywork, but not so great at Diplomacy and is fairly abrasive with people she dislikes, so she can't do it. Xanatos is the only member of the other three liable to be completely okay with a diplomat. Khan would tolerate it but likely prefer to have direct chats with Doof so he can ensure there are no misunderstandings. Shego... yeah, that would be a disaster waiting to happen, and Doof already hangs out with her on a regular basis, so there's not much point.
The problem, is that Doof, other than some quirkiness, is actually fairly normal underneath it all, and with his Diplo score, I'm not confident in his ability to hold things together. The fusion power might be the answer there, handing the tech out to his allies. Huh, acting like a power broker, ironically.
TLDR: A Diplo Victory is probably our best bet here considering our action economy issues, even if it involves tech-bribery to maintain a Four King alliance, which would technically make it a hybrid Diplo/Learning Victory, but whatever. Also, I'm salivating a the thought of Super Normbots based on the combined innovations of the robot groups in the setting and the chip being better than Prime currently is. Heh, wonder if they'd hit the 'Has multiple phases.' level of all major Bosses?
I have this image of the Antborgs, Hoplites, Cogs, Drakktech robots, whatever McGucket/Von Drake/Gensokyo can contribute, and Iron Gargoyles all getting absorbed into the Normbots. The end result would probably be even better than current Norm Prime when combined with the chip.
Even if they individually only knock a 5 or so off the DC each, they'd likely guarantee a crit on the next instance, as well as providing some variety for different situations, since the Normbots are generalist enough to be of use practically anywhere, but specialists have their place. I'm imagining the Pantheons of Megaman Zero and all their sub-types, but with Normbots.
I wonder how the other kings would take an alliance of the Semi-Sane, as discussed a while back. Doof's robots are superior to just about everybody's stuff below the absolute top-of-the-line, so they'll probably be at least helpful, especially if this is post-upgrade, and a lot of low-tier Supers would have trouble with post-upgrade Normbots in any significant numbers. Heck, 5 of them now would be an issue for a lot of low-end Supers.
More relevantly, between Shere Khan's resources, Xanatos' scheming and magical knowledge, and the tech Shego and Doof bring to the table, including the resources and robotics knowledge to simply drown enemies conventional Hero balls would have trouble with, Bill's about the only one who could actually stop them through non-Intrigue means. Doof would probably be pretty okay with just the Tri-State Area, ruling the world is rather too much work when his 'nation' is already bigger than his homeland and he already has plenty of prestige and is on the verge of cracking fusion, which will put him up there with Einstein and Hawking. Not sure what the limits of Shego, Khan, and Xanatos' ambitions would be. Shego canonically took over the world in one timeline, but that was due in part to a closed timeloop of her future self manipulating things. Shere Khan seems to have been more or less content with economic dominance of his state in canon. Xanatos... I'm honestly not sure if my read on him is good enough to make a prediction there.
Such an alliance would be nearly unstoppable unless something crazy happened like Toffee teaming up with Bill or the government said 'screw it!' and tried to nuke them literally or metaphorically. Internal disputes seem like the most likely breaking point here. Shego at least somewhat respects Doof, but doesn't especially like him. Xanatos is starting to open relations, but hasn't solidified yet. Shere Khan barely interacts with us. I'm convinced this is our best shot at a Victory that isn't a long grinding slog or a race against a Bill-shaped clock though. The question, is, somewhat ironically, if Doof can hold such an alliance together. Khan and Xanatos are too manipulative for Shego to ever fully trust them, and they are unlikely to be particularly trusting of each other beyond business relationships. Shego is great at fighting and spywork, but not so great at Diplomacy and is fairly abrasive with people she dislikes, so she can't do it. Xanatos is the only member of the other three liable to be completely okay with a diplomat. Khan would tolerate it but likely prefer to have direct chats with Doof so he can ensure there are no misunderstandings. Shego... yeah, that would be a disaster waiting to happen, and Doof already hangs out with her on a regular basis, so there's not much point.
The problem, is that Doof, other than some quirkiness, is actually fairly normal underneath it all, and with his Diplo score, I'm not confident in his ability to hold things together. The fusion power might be the answer there, handing the tech out to his allies. Huh, acting like a power broker, ironically.
TLDR: A Diplo Victory is probably our best bet here considering our action economy issues, even if it involves tech-bribery to maintain a Four King alliance, which would technically make it a hybrid Diplo/Learning Victory, but whatever. Also, I'm salivating a the thought of Super Normbots based on the combined innovations of the robot groups in the setting and the chip being better than Prime currently is. Heh, wonder if they'd hit the 'Has multiple phases.' level of all major Bosses?
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- Location
- washington
eh not sure doof even wants to rule the world he just wanted to do something EEEEEVIlllll and linda just made him think tri state area.
- Pronouns
- I He Him His
To make Doofania greater we should not be looking into taking over more territory. Instead we should look at maximizing what we already have and can research. Once we can use diplomacy to make people no longer wary about Flubber we can create flying cities miles high all over the Tri-State area. Weather control would be ours and biodomes means lack of air is no longer a concern. Then we can open ourselves up to immigration from Mexico or any other country looking for better opportunities and lives. We will become America 2.0 and do it all above board. Why try to take over the world when you can have flock to you in droves?
Build Tall not wide?
though looking at the wiki for VV Doof is noted as having a high immigration rate because his hands off attitude makes him the common man's favorite of the tyrants.
- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
- Pronouns
- He/Him
It's well thought out, but it's too...silent of a victory. I'd prefer something BOMBASTIC!
Maybe something like a tech/culture victory combined with having the US recognize Doofania as an independent country. That sounds like a fun, big goal to strive towards while still avoiding the nasties of open warfare.
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I agree with this. We're the chief in tech and science here. I say we win with research as the mainstream method. Who else is with me in this idea?It's well thought out, but it's too...silent of a victory. I'd prefer something BOMBASTIC!
Maybe something like a tech/culture victory combined with having the US recognize Doofania as an independent country. That sounds like a fun, big goal to strive towards while still avoiding the nasties of open warfare.
- Pronouns
- I He Him His
One thing comes to mind after everyone argued about needing people for quests or actions to the point of not having personal actions in the future. Doof is able to contribute his stats and still go on personal actions. While that may just be a perk of him being a King if the Council positions work in a similar manner then it is possible for people to contribute their stats and still have personal actions. After all in a head position they would have people to delegate things to and not have to handle everything themselves. Note that it is only when Doof is either on a quest or handling things personally that three of his four actions vanish.
Just realized that the Company retreat celebrates our First anniversary of Taking Over the Tristate Area.
- Location
- washington
on the sad note said takeover was not a happy time for doof as much as it could be as perry died for it. So its a time of drinking more than anything.
- Location
- Michigan
- Pronouns
- They/Them
We also technically only have a 2.5-state area because Great Rival Shego has half of Colorado.
- Location
- I think somewhere. I might be nowhere though
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Look on the bright side! Depending on how this whole Syndrome-Sinatron thing works out, we might be able to chomp a bit on his turf and become the 3 state area by approximation
- Location
- washington
the two and two halfs state area will be ours!Look on the bright side! Depending on how this whole Syndrome-Sinatron thing works out, we might be able to chomp a bit on his turf and become the 3 state area by approximation
- Location
- Depends on how much of a troll Zelretch is today!
We already have control of two-and-a-half states though?
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
tge joke is we take half a state. And we don't combine the two half states
Mors
Searching for immanence
Look on the bright side! Depending on how this whole Syndrome-Sinatron thing works out, we might be able to chomp a bit on his turf and become the 3 state area by approximation
You've obviously never played CK2 if that's how you want us to rule the tri-state area.
The answer is
marriage.
- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
You've obviously never played CK2 if that's how you want us to rule the tri-state area.
The answer is
marriage.
considering the only one of the correct gender is extremely annoyed by doof's mere presence and is only now beginning to tolerate his existence that'snot really an option
Mors
Searching for immanence
Yeah, a Rival gives a -100 opinion malus which makes seduction hard.
But not impossible.
/ Just coming off a weeklong CK2 binge, don't mind me guys.
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- Location
- the Netherworld Dood
Yeah, a Rival gives a -100 opinion malus which makes seduction hard.
But not impossible.
Again Shego.
if anything I'd be worried that she'd be running things in the combined territory. Because she sure as hell wouldn't subordinate herself to another dorky mad scientist type after she overthrew the last one.
let's file that with the department of bad ideas and call it a day.
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Something @Nystical said on discord,
Got me thinking on how it will affect the cape scene investigation action, Who would be best suited for finding star if we get a high roll? The one who has the highest intrigue stat, or the one who narratively knows her the most?Nystical said:
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He's Got Multiple Phases?!
- Location
- Peterborough, NH, USA
He's Got Multiple Phases?!
The Resistance had heard that the Normbots had gotten a major upgrade from a few contacts in DEI. Few were knowing informants, and none were in a position to influence a project, but with how skilled the spies he'd recruited were, simply having an information advantage was precious. Naturally, they'd taken the first opportunity to attack an isolated one.
While on the outskirts of Danville, they baited it with Buford and Baljeet, emerging from the sewer. "I'm just saying, couldn't we use something more hygienic?" Buford asked the argument only partially for show.
"It's a convenient network of tunnels under the city that Doof hasn't majorly messed with. We don't have the tech for anything less mundane." Baljeet sighed. Buford's jaw clenched for a moment, but he nodded.
"Excuse me young men. You seem to match the profiles of the Resistance members that have been causing my father and my brothers problems. I'm going to have to ask you to come with me." the Normbot said, the usual fake chipperness carrying an undertone of seriousness previous generations hadn't. Better simulating emotions wasn't a huge leap in terms of combat abilities, but it was something to keep in mind. If they started acting like actual people, it might be possible to turn a few. Baljeet had reluctantly admitted that it would be obvious they'd been reprogrammed if he tried, and without... anyway, it wasn't an option.
The boys raised their arms. The bot raised a mechanical eyebrow. "Huh. That's strange. I was hoping for this, but I was sure you'd-" Candace jumped off a nearby roof, landing directly on the bot. It was only a single story, and she had her special running shoes. Though, without maintenance, they were getting slower. Their inertia dampening still worked fine. She jumped off, having only meant to distract it for a moment as the others rushed the Normbot from nearby alleys and in one case a nearby window.
The Normbot nodded "Ah, this is more what I expected." then he suddenly rushed forward, much faster than one from a few weeks ago would have managed. Buford barely managed to interpose himself between it and Buford, and it was clear that the Normbot had pulled it's punch just before impact, so the grey-skinned boy was only flung a few feet, clearly dazed by the impact but not obviously hurt otherwise.
Candace used her shoes to sprint towards it, and land an ax kick. Normally, this would be enough to blow an arm off, but she'd slowed since last month, and more importantly, the Normbot was much, much tougher. She sped over to the other side and smashed a foot into it's leg, but again, all she managed was a dent. It would take at least 5 blows to take a limb off at this point.
Isabella and the Fireside Girls surrounded it and, of all things, peppered it with shuriken. Of anyone, Isabella might have taken everything the hardest, and the Fireside girls were affected by their leader's spirits. While their parents managed the food and supplies in general, the younger generation wasn't content with simply hiding. Unlike last month, the shuriken mostly bounced off. The Normbot singled out Isabella as the leader of that cadre, and dashed towards her with speed something that size simply ought not have.
Candace rushed it, but then ducked under a swing that had come perilously close to smacking her into a nearby wall. "Careful, this one's a fast learner!" she shouted as Buford and Jeremy smacked the Normbots with their paint cans, just as Stacy threw a tired on the bot's head. Unfortunately, the Normbot simply ripped it apart with brute strength.
"You should really stop. You're going to get hurt." The bot cautioned. Something snapped in Candace when he said that, and she blasted forward, pounding his torso with at least a dozen blows, but on the thirteenth, he grabbed her mid-strike. Sheer momentum almost caused her to tap him anyway, but she found herself dangling by the leg. "Hm, this one seems to be your ringleader and only Super, I'm sure Dr. D will be pleased if I-" a combined assault from Stacy slamming two tires on his head, the Fireside Girls jamming the shuriken into his joints directly, and Buford, Jeremy and Baljeet all smacked it, Baljeet using a tennis ball launcher stashed here yesterday and pouring on the fire.
"Quick! It'll run out in less than a minute!" Baljeet shouted, as the Normbot's arms let go of Candace, who caught and righted herself with practiced ease, and moved jerkily to get the tires off.
Just as they'd regrouped, preparing to run for it, steam hissed out of the joints. Their hopes of an overheat were dashed when the bot spoke "Oh dear, you've left me no choice but to deactivate my primary safeties." he said, as his torso opened up and a gloved hand began picking all the shuriken out of his joints. "The ACME blade remover was meant for swords and knives, but it looks like it works just fine on shuriken." he commented as his movements began to normalize.
"Okay, we are not equipped to take on a multi-stage boss!" Buford shouted, and the group took that as their cue to scatter.
Candace noticed the Normbot glancing between the groups, before it headed for Baljeet and Buford. It took her a while, but she'd figured out how to use the speed boost for jumps, and she put that knowledge to use jumping onto a building and then rocketing towards the Normbot. She knocked it down, and, seeing the shocked looks the others still in eyeshot were sending her, shouted "Keep running!"
Upon a sudden premonition, she jumped off just as the bot's arms turned 180 degrees and made a grab for her. She could see the dents she'd made earlier filling back out, one by one. Just what they needed, a self-repair ability. Still, there was no reason to stick around at this point, it wasn't likely it would have been able to catch any of the others, and it would likely go for her first anyway. She fled as it started to stand up again.
Looking around once he'd regained an upright position, his optics couldn't detect any of The Resistance any longer. "Aw. Dr. D's going to be upset I let them get away. Oh well, he should be happy all the new upgrades worked so well." The Normbot commented, as even the large dent, nearly enough to smash his torso in, began to repair itself.
AN: The super-speedy shoes are giving a bunch of Stat bonuses due to their extra speed, mostly to Martial and Intrigue, but none of them know how to keep them in order, so every Turn their bonus decays. It was originally huge enough I'd give her decent odds of being able to take Doof before he ramped up, but it's degraded enough that it's pretty doubtful unless she got very lucky and Doof got very unlucky. At the start, she was mostly concerned with gathering her friend and allies and their families, and finding a hidey-hole for them to lay low in. She had to canvas the whole town, and grab everybody, and then steal a pretty large amount of food and general supplies. Between the general morale hit of their circumstances and what they were driven to, she didn't really have a direct assault on a King in her, and so she spent time learning how to use the shoes properly, discovering their degrading bonus just as the extra skill started to get overwhelmed by the lowering speed.
They were reasonably able to take down bots in ones and twos pre-upgrade, but I figure a major upgrade from the chip would cause serious issues since they're mostly baseline humans with a few pieces of degrading superscience equipment. When exactly this is set, be it in a couple Turns after the Chip Upgrade is rolled out or later on after a second wave of upgrading based on the Anti-Cape AI and Doppleganger AI, along with any gizmos we acquire in the meantime, is open. I'm leaning towards the latter, given the shoes capped out at a significant portion of lightspeed in their prime, so it would likely take a few years for them to get slow enough that she couldn't just wipe out a bot in one hit once she got the hang of them.
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