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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

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Lmd said:
We had hidden chances to recruit them earlier, but we just never picked the options with those hidden chances.

Edit: sorry for the double post, but this is something Made in Heaven confirmed in thread or the discord. Can't remember where, but it's something that happened.

I think the peak times to possibly recruit them is during the turns set in summer.
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We'll probably get it someday bar them dying, moving, or getting found by others.
 
WinterPhoenix said:
I really hope they don't get picked up by somebody else. Their learning is probably at least on par with Doof, maybe even McGucket, so that would suck.
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Seems unlikely bar kidnapping seeing as they wouldn't want to move and it would need someone to take actions on our turf.

You know they likely have an amazing stewardship and diplomacy too seeing how they organize things so well and can convince people to do things for them nearly every episode. Also maybe a good intrigue if only because they accidently all the time keep things secret from mom without meaning too.
 
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Killerdrillman said:
Seems unlikely bar kidnapping seeing as they wouldn't want to move and it would need someone to take actions on our turf.

You know they likely have an amazing stewardship and diplomacy too seeing how they organize things so well and can convince people to do things for them nearly every episode. Also maybe a good intrigue if only because they accidently all the time keep things secret from mom without meaning too.
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I suspect Ferb would have the Stewardship and Phineas the Diplo.

PyrrosWarrior said:
Building an army isn't at all what I meant when I said "tech/culture victory" without the "nasties of war." It's kinda the exact opposite. To me, a victory is transformative - it evokes a kind of change for better or worse. Your plan is well thought out, but it doesn't change anything. There is nothing to actually seek out, and nothing is accomplished. The only thing it aids in is consolidation. It is a status quo end.

My idea of a "tech/culture" victory is to make Doofania a utopia of the world - the height of technology and culture (including but not limited to plans to do with Little Toontown as I've mentioned before). The crowning point of that would be to be recognized as an independent country, as that is a difficult but still achievable goal for the long-term with many implications. Your plan doesn't really "do" anything. It has nothing to strive for, and it only seeks to make our reign safer. It's a plan, and one we should at least draw inspiration from moving forward, but it is not a goal by a long-shot.
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Fair enough. Still want to consolidate, since it would be easier to ally with the Semi-sane at least against the Insane, and it would make taking over the world a lot easier if we had a group of Kings instead of just the one. You think terraforming other planets would give us a net plus with the government because of the public opinion plus, or a net minus for much the same reason the food production did?
 
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ilbgar123 said:
I suspect Ferb would have the Stewardship and Phineas the Diplo.



Fair enough. Still want to consolidate, since it would be easier to ally with the Semi-sane at least against the Insane. You think terraforming other planets would give us a net plus with the government because of the public opinion plus, or a net minus for much the same reason the food production did?
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Seems about right phineas does seem to get somewhat distracted. But he's definitely the better talker. They make a good pair.

Though stat wise if no one else would they would come as a pair.
 
ilbgar123 said:
You think terraforming other planets would give us a net plus with the government because of the public opinion plus, or a net minus for much the same reason the food production did?
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It depends on how you pull it off. If Doof just did it independently, it would probably give some maluses (not to mention the whole new angle of interstellar politics that the US and DEI would have to deal with). If, however, Doof were to establish relations with the US government and frame it more as a private-government dual project, like SpaceX when they took on contracts with NASA, then you could probably have it be a positive. That would come with its own set of bonuses and maluses though.
 
Killerdrillman said:
You know they likely have an amazing stewardship and diplomacy too seeing how they organize things so well and can convince people to do things for them nearly every episode. Also maybe a good intrigue if only because they accidently all the time keep things secret from mom without meaning too.
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I suspect that last thing would be a trait. They're good at, specifically, keeping up a localized masquerade covering whatever it is they're doing.
 
Yeah, but I could totally see the boys having a trait like "Serendipitous Deniability" where it's downright a pattern that whatever they do, it's likely that no one will pin it on them.

Even if that doesn't translate into a higher overall Intrigue for broader purposes.

Sort of like how Doof effectively has staggeringly high Intrigue if you're trying to infiltrate his headquarters, but not particularly great Intrigue if you're doing a lot of other things in his territory or if he's in your territory.
 
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The Mozzarella's Stone-Inator: flip a coin. On a heads, gain 2 income from cheese turned into gold. On tails, Monogram takes a -5 to rolls this turn as he quite foolishly ingests some of the newly transmogrified cheese spreads.

"You see Perry the Platypus, back in my teenage years, shortly after I was forcibly immigrated to America, I found myself on lean times. My bratwurst business was failing- you, you remember that one, right, no need to recap? Okay good. Anyway I was destitute! That was when I found out that the US Government offers food assistance to poor Americans. I swallowed my Drusselstinian pride, which was easy since it's extremely small, and signed up. Unfortunately, I somehow managed to acquire an outdated version of the form, and received american income assistance from the 1940s! This took the form of cheap, processed, sickly yellow cheese! Cheese once given out to every needy american, but now given only to me! I felt special at first, but it just kept coming. Day after day, I ate nothing but american cheese. I ate cheese sandwiches on slices of cheese. I ate cheese omelettes sans eggs. I even ate cheeseburgers without the burgers! It drove me near to madness! But now, Perry the Platypus, I will cease my reliance on my ex-wife's alimony checks, and end any chance of my own destitution, forever!

Or you know, at the very least, I'll have a different kind of cheese to try."
 
Is Vanessa still dating Johnny at the time of the divergence, or had she begun dating Monty already? The second scenario would be quite interesting since she presumably wouldn't need to hide her relationship with Monty anymore since her dad and his dad are now working together, if on a bit of a forced basis.

I am referring to Monty Monogram, Major Monogram's son, for those of you whom may not know what I am talking about.
 
ilbgar123 said:
Fair enough. Still want to consolidate, since it would be easier to ally with the Semi-sane at least against the Insane, and it would make taking over the world a lot easier if we had a group of Kings instead of just the one. You think terraforming other planets would give us a net plus with the government because of the public opinion plus, or a net minus for much the same reason the food production did?
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I just wish there were more... agreeable insane people to ally. We are the elephant's graveyard for sanity, where it goes to die, and I want more crazy person friends. Sadly, most of the other crazy people (who own land, at least) are probably ending the world faster than we would like.

If we terraformed another planet, or the moon or something, I could see us literally uprooting the tri-state area entirely. We'd borrow half of Nevada or something to make up for the half-a-state Shego's claimed dibs on. I'm still hoping for pocket dimensions myself, though.

My life just won't be complete until we keep our castle folded up in our wallet behind that one gift card for Olive Garden that we got last Christmas.
 
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Modus_Tollens said:
I just wish there were more... agreeable insane people to ally. We are the elephant's graveyard for sanity, where it goes to die, and I want more crazy person friends. Sadly, most of the other crazy people (who own land, at least) are probably ending the world faster than we would like.

If we terraformed another planet, or the moon or something, I could see us literally uprooting the tri-state area entirely. We'd borrow half of Nevada or something to make up for the half-a-state Shego's claimed dibs on. I'm still hoping on pocket dimensions myself, though.
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We can just steal Doomtown after we conquer it. Or perhaps Hawaii.
 
Sailor_Skarro said:
We can just steal Doomtown after we conquer it. Or perhaps Hawaii.
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We'd have to paint it as the solar system's largest nature reserve if it was Hawaii.

Admittedly you could have some fucking amazing mosquitoes in one sixth earth gravity even before we break out the top end mad science. You could use those things to hunt deer.
 
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If we ever literally uproot all of Doofania onto another planet or in to another dimension, I declare that we should heist the 100-foot cyclopes bones underneath the Lincoln Memorial while we're at it. We could have mighty cyclopes mounts! :p
 
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Alright. I have something monumentally stupid to propose, but I think its stupid enough to be amazing.

We take our flying cars and disguise them as hot air balloons... while still saying that they are flying cars. Put on the full costume ensemble from 'Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines' or 'Around the World in 80 Days' and ham up our state of the art murdercraft. That are just, well, hot air balloons. We'll even put it down as an invitation only aviation club.

And then, whenever we want to, we have hot air balloons that may as well be TIE-Fighters. Only, you know, with reasonable safety accommodations and cupholders and whatnot.

The government can't regulate things too insane to put into paperwork. And people trying to counter us, those few who take us seriously, will be too busy having brain hemorrhages to actually come up with a plan.
 
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