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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

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By the way, thought I had: Feldrake wanting to get away from Janna may be a blessing in disguise. Because, whoever's wielding him when the final World Tour quest comes, I think we SHOULDN'T send said wielder. Remember: Donald is actually currently opposed to Feldrake (honestly, for good reason: We may have a good handle on him now, but Feldrake, ya know, DID try to take over the world and is a violent sociopath who has killed before and is willing to kill again). If we want to recruit him (and we do), we probably want to send a Quest team more suited to Diplomacy and that doesn't have the evil wizard he's actively fighting against. We should 100% send Goofy because, if anyone can, one of his best friends who also is one of our best Diplo heroes would be the guy. Plus, imagine that heroball...
 
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KnownParadox said:
I still think Janna should keep Feldrake even when he doesn't provide a mechanical boost, as I explained earlier.
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I honestly think some time apart might be good for them. Let her show she can make do without him. She actually does know how to cast on her own, once she's finally found a real focus, she should be ready to earn his respect back. It's clear he doesn't want to leave her, not for good, but she needs to improve.
 
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Boo. We could have threaded the needle. We could have had it all! Now we are just another boring reformed villain. We probably don't even take joy in terrorizing the townsfolk anymore.
 
Ciber said:
Boo. We could have threaded the needle. We could have had it all! Now we are just another boring reformed villain. We probably don't even take joy in terrorizing the townsfolk anymore.
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Our Council consists of three actual cartoons, one Saturday morning cartoon villain in denial, and an evil ghost. And Mirage. She's the straight man. I don't think boredom is a major concern.
 
It's official. The dream of Doofania is dead, and we should only say good things about the dead.

Doofania is dead. Good.

I love that this signing got lumped together with Norm (entering through our window like a certain someone)—another big test for Doof, in terms of maturity.
 
Penguinbowler said:
Trust me, the Good Witch Azura is the trashiest shit there is. Luz and Amity just have, canonically, shit taste.
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To give people who haven't seen The Owl House a cursory idea of just how shit The Good Witch Azura is:

It is riddled with spelling errors, purple prose and names like "The Bog of Immediate Regret".

Reading it out loud was once used to torture a witch into compliance.

The film adaptation of The Good Witch Azura (because of course it got one) had two separate sequels. One was subtitled "The Betrayanning". The other was an 80s-style sports movie that spoiled its ending on the DVD cover.

By Norm having read the books, the number of people we know to have read the whole series has increased by 33%. And this is including King, who, lets be real, probably only liked the series because he's eight and it was read to him by his big sister who was finally paying attention to him.

When copies of volumes 1-4 washed up on shore, the fourth greatest scam-artist in all of the Boiling Isles decided to try and make a profit off of them. He sold a grand total of one copy on the entire continent. And he didn't even say thank you to Amity for it.


The books are by all accounts terrible. The only good thing about them is that it does feature a WLW enemies-to-lovers romance that includes villanous sacrifices and heroic kidnappings.

For everything else, you're better off with Cynthia Coven. Unless of course Cynthia Coven's author takes after its IRL inspiration, but that's an entirely different saga.
 
Omegahugger said:
To give people who haven't seen The Owl House a cursory idea of just how shit The Good Witch Azura is:

It is riddled with spelling errors, purple prose and names like "The Bog of Immediate Regret".

Reading it out loud was once used to torture a witch into compliance.

The film adaptation of The Good Witch Azura (because of course it got one) had two separate sequels. One was subtitled "The Betrayanning". The other was an 80s-style sports movie that spoiled its ending on the DVD cover.

By Norm having read the books, the number of people we know to have read the whole series has increased by 33%. And this is including King, who, lets be real, probably only liked the series because he's eight and it was read to him by his big sister who was finally paying attention to him.

When copies of volumes 1-4 washed up on shore, the fourth greatest scam-artist in all of the Boiling Isles decided to try and make a profit off of them. He sold a grand total of one copy on the entire continent. And he didn't even say thank you to Amity for it.


The books are by all accounts terrible. The only good thing about them is that it does feature a WLW enemies-to-lovers romance that includes villanous sacrifices and heroic kidnappings.

For everything else, you're better off with Cynthia Coven. Unless of course Cynthia Coven's author takes after its IRL inspiration, but that's an entirely different saga.
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...ah - so essentially, we are talking "My Immortal" levels of bad?

Yeah no, best bury something like that as deeply as we can...
 
Kinda, yeah, but are we still a "King" if we have given up our official Land? As much as it's the sensible thing to do, it is something that can be construed as a sign of weakness by other Kings. Like had been stated in the "Doofenshmirtz's Power" infopost, everyone else was playing Shadowrun, we were playing Tropico. Some kings will view that as us knuckling under, and may step up operations against us accordingly. Others who know us somewhat better (Shego, Xanay, Winston) will realize it's quite possibly us transforming into a much more dangerous opponent/ally. But they know it's a great blow to our pride to do so.

It's not about the power. We never had that level of power in the first place. It's the Perception. They knew we weren't that powerful, we knew it (somewhat), but they're seeing us "give up". And someone who hadn't been keeping fully abreast could take that as the "Free Real Estate" light.
 
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We never had that level of power in the first place. It's the Perception. They knew we weren't that powerful, we knew it (somewhat), but they're seeing us "give up". And someone who hadn't been keeping fully abreast could take that as the "Free Real Estate" light.
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I mean, the public perception of Doofania is that it's DEI's current marketing gimmick:
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Dr. Heinz's declarations of 'independence' and plays at being a mad scientist are seen as absurdly hilarious by many, viewing it as a parody of how 'evil' other CEOs can be and a sign that Doofenshmirtz alone is actually self-aware.
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Made in Heaven said:
The rest of the country views DEI as just another megacorp, albeit one with odd branding,
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DEI's weird 'Doofanian' fixation is ignored by most, seeing it as a marketing ploy or grandiose delusion that some choose to play along with because of monetary incentives.
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They're not going to view it as 'knuckling under', they're just going to view it as moving on from our long running marketing thing and onto something else. Like, the most provocative response we're going to get from this is Mark Beaks having to alter his ad campaign or something.
 
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Kinda, yeah, but are we still a "King" if we have given up our official Land?
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A fair few of the Kings in GL (almost all of the ones headquartered on Earth) DON'T have official land. The US government, battered and beaten as it is, is still standing, and most Kings still have to jostle for power WITHIN that system or, at least, pretend to. The term King is an artifact of the Classic era, and only Doof thinks (well, thought) that being a CEO of a megacorp worked like being a monarch. The main reason he hasn't gotten Shego to "hand over the last bit of Colorado" is because she has enough common sense to know that's not how companies work. Corps have pseudo-defined spheres of influences, regions where local politics are in their pockets, where all the local politicians are taking their bribes lobbying money and aren't likely to stop and aren't likely to stop any time soon, but that's not the same thing.
 
And I get that, it is a metaphorical kingdom after all. But all the other kings saw us treat it near literally is my point. And as frustrating as that is for anyone that had to deal with it, seeing that particular literalness go away could be construed as either a sign of a soft coup having happened (like how Shego is in charge of Drakken) or us actually giving up. We know it's consolidating, it's the perception of men like Doom that could be going "he's weak, time to strike!" in my mind. Might not actually be happening, but it is a moment of major character change/growth. And in the middle of such changes is where opportunities lie.
 
To put it bluntly...I think Doom, and a fair few others, are about to have...Bigger concerns. Duck-related concerns, if you don't catch my meaning. A Crisis is coming, it's one hitting a lot of major cities, that's a way bigger priority.
 
Out of the people who interacted with us enough to even notice...

Winston would probably be happy, Sinatron and Xanatos would probably both roll Intrigue reactively to see whats up (And if they realise its that Heinz is admitting the Truth to himself, I feel both would be relieved since it means Doof is less of a Wild Card) Shego won't care, and Doom might make some snide comments but not much else.
 
Well. That was very heartwarming. While a bit regrettable, this was necessary and I'm glad we did it. I was hoping we'd get a bit more out of this than just Norm coming back with a temporary +10 Loyalty, but eh. Not the end of the world.

That's just around the corner...

Also, on the Good Witch Azura:
1) Don't insult anything you haven't read. Sure, the brief excerpts don't paint a favorable picture, but don't knock anything you haven't read yourself.
2) The author of Good Witch Azura managed to publish (not write, publish, which is infinitely harder) five books and have two movies made based on those books. She has to be doing something right. The possibility of Lumity being the only fans of that series is nonexistent.
 
mangawriter77 said:
2) The author of Good Witch Azura managed to publish (not write, publish, which is infinitely harder) five books and have two movies made based on those books. She has to be doing something right. The possibility of Lumity being the only fans of that series is nonexistent.
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It's true that it is unlikely that Luz and Amity are the only fans, but commercial success doesn't mean the author was writing good content. Look at how popular JK Rowling and Harry Potter were! :V
 
MrHobbit said:
It's true that it is unlikely that Luz and Amity are the only fans, but commercial success doesn't mean the author was writing good content. Look at how popular JK Rowling and Harry Potter were! :V
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Or Twilight. Or Eragon. Or a lot of other popular meadia for that age range.

To add to this, Luz got the first book from her sick Father, and even then didn't start reading til he was near Death's Door. She has an emotional connection to that thing beyond anything on its pages, since it helped her get through a really rough part of her life.

Amity just has shit taste though
 
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"No more deluded claims of dictatorship? Well, guess they couldn't be so bold forever. They will likely try to keep their rep through some other diabolical plan, like stealing the declaration of independ-

What do you mean they rescued it? Like, for a bounty, or to trade it to the feds for outrageous favors?

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For free?!"

 
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