[X] Attempt communications (These two seem to have more of a quarrel with each other than anything else, you're just caught in the middle. Maybe one of them would see reason, leave town… or even enter your employ?)
-[X] Khan+mirage to Lizzie
-[X] norm+russ to Stanley

I want to send Stanley to Vegas to try and set him up as the new Syndrome over there. While he is our New Most Hated Enemy, we could just have him rule over Vegas instead of either Syndrome or Sinatra. This would put a party at least slightly favorable to us over there. We don't even need to mention us being responsible for what happened over there, just that we were there for the Gala like everyone else and saw what went down. Put an easier opportunity in front of Stanley's face for what is quite literally Free Real Estate at this point. Lizzie I think we could get to work under us, or at the very least, convince to go to Vegas as well with Stanley, hopefully starting a three way fight between Lizzie, Sinatra, and Stanley for territory. This would divide up Syndrome's former territory into three smaller warring territories, maybe even four if Syndrome can hold onto anything. I think that's our ideal outcome for this, as it would give us the opportunity to play Kingmaker with whichever of those 3 powers we want to be in control of Syndrome's territory. Plus, chaos like that is bound to look fun to all those St. Canard escapees, both for the chaos and because we make Syndrome's territory look desirable with three different factions seemingly popping up to fight over it.

Thoughts?
 
I want to send Stanley to Vegas to try and set him up as the new Syndrome over there. While he is our New Most Hated Enemy, we could just have him rule over Vegas instead of either Syndrome or Sinatra. This would put a party at least slightly favorable to us over there. We don't even need to mention us being responsible for what happened over there, just that we were there for the Gala like everyone else and saw what went down. Put an easier opportunity in front of Stanley's face for what is quite literally Free Real Estate at this point. Lizzie I think we could get to work under us, or at the very least, convince to go to Vegas as well with Stanley, hopefully starting a three way fight between Lizzie, Sinatra, and Stanley for territory. This would divide up Syndrome's former territory into three smaller warring territories, maybe even four if Syndrome can hold onto anything. I think that's our ideal outcome for this, as it would give us the opportunity to play Kingmaker with whichever of those 3 powers we want to be in control of Syndrome's territory. Plus, chaos like that is bound to look fun to all those St. Canard escapees, both for the chaos and because we make Syndrome's territory look desirable with three different factions seemingly popping up to fight over it.

Thoughts?
I get the intention, but I disagree with just giving Syndrome's territories away to someone we'll have to deal with later. It's the same reason why I don't want to help Sinatron in keeping Vegas, we don't benefit from this. The only upside I see is that it keeps Syndrome busy, but he's heavily injured and is captured by Sinatron while he's in control temporarily. I don't see a short or long term benefit besides postponing a potential threat later down the line. It does give us time to prepare, but so do they. Since it seems we're aiming to recruit Lizzie, I'll push to recruit her directly under us rather than set her up to be another King we'll have to deal with eventually.

Honestly, if people want to get rid of Syndrome, we can just take over everything ourselves. Kronos is without a CEO, the Omindroids are offline and I don't remember him having anyone else of note being loyal to him other than the fact he paid them. We can easily take over his territories and expand our domain by a lot. It doesn't need to be blatant, just control Kronos and its subsidiaries and we take everything Syndrome has worked for and leave him with nothing whenever he does recover.

We have until Sinatron loses his hold over everything to do this, it isn't going to happen immediately after this quest but it's a house of cards about to fall down and we just have to wait and gently blow on it all the while.
 
I get the intention, but I disagree with just giving Syndrome's territories away to someone we'll have to deal with later. It's the same reason why I don't want to help Sinatron in keeping Vegas, we don't benefit from this. The only upside I see is that it keeps Syndrome busy, but he's heavily injured and is captured by Sinatron while he's in control temporarily. I don't see a short or long term benefit besides postponing a potential threat later down the line. It does give us time to prepare, but so do they. Since it seems we're aiming to recruit Lizzie, I'll push to recruit her directly under us rather than set her up to be another King we'll have to deal with eventually.

Honestly, if people want to get rid of Syndrome, we can just take over everything ourselves. Kronos is without a CEO, the Omindroids are offline and I don't remember him having anyone else of note being loyal to him other than the fact he paid them. We can easily take over his territories and expand our domain by a lot. It doesn't need to be blatant, just control Kronos and its subsidiaries and we take everything Syndrome has worked for and leave him with nothing whenever he does recover.

We have until Sinatron loses his hold over everything to do this, it isn't going to happen immediately after this quest but it's a house of cards about to fall down and we just have to wait and gently blow on it all the while.
We're buying Insuricare this turn. If the DC is low enough, I'd be down for buying out some of Syndrome's other shells if the thread is interested.
 
I get the intention, but I disagree with just giving Syndrome's territories away to someone we'll have to deal with later. It's the same reason why I don't want to help Sinatron in keeping Vegas, we don't benefit from this. The only upside I see is that it keeps Syndrome busy, but he's heavily injured and is captured by Sinatron while he's in control temporarily. I don't see a short or long term benefit besides postponing a potential threat later down the line. It does give us time to prepare, but so do they. Since it seems we're aiming to recruit Lizzie, I'll push to recruit her directly under us rather than set her up to be another King we'll have to deal with eventually.

Honestly, if people want to get rid of Syndrome, we can just take over everything ourselves. Kronos is without a CEO, the Omindroids are offline and I don't remember him having anyone else of note being loyal to him other than the fact he paid them. We can easily take over his territories and expand our domain by a lot. It doesn't need to be blatant, just control Kronos and its subsidiaries and we take everything Syndrome has worked for and leave him with nothing whenever he does recover.

We have until Sinatron loses his hold over everything to do this, it isn't going to happen immediately after this quest but it's a house of cards about to fall down and we just have to wait and gently blow on it all the while.
We're buying Insuricare this turn. If the DC is low enough, I'd be down for buying out some of Syndrome's other shells if the thread is interested.

I'd be down for this, as we just met the perfect guy to run it all at the Gala~! We could probably lower the DC even further by getting back in contact with Winston with the explicit intention of putting him back in charge of Devtech at minimum if not Kronos as a whole. This would give us access to some tech for Hego at the very least via Winston. I'm sure Hego will be devastated that he missed out on combatting actual supervillains while he was away buying out Insuricare, so he'll need a cheer-me-up at the very least. Plus, if we could make him an actual threat and maybe get around to building him up his own Superhero team, we could leave that hypothetical team as a defense force for Doofania for whenever we leave it to go on Quests.
 
We're buying Insuricare this turn. If the DC is low enough, I'd be down for buying out some of Syndrome's other shells if the thread is interested.
What are Syndrome's other shells anyway? I didn't realize he had ties to Insuricare.

EDIT: Actually, who's our best Stewardship hero? What with the absolute DISASTER that was the Gala, I bet we could do a Hostile Corporate Takeover action next turn and succeed.

EDIT 2: Apparently it's Doof, with 24 Stewardship. That actually ties in well with the 3 Personal Actions for a reroll thing.
 
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We're buying Insuricare this turn. If the DC is low enough, I'd be down for buying out some of Syndrome's other shells if the thread is interested.
Personally, I was thinking of buying Kronos out entirely if the DC was reasonable, though if it's easier to buy a bunch of his other subsidiaries than I see no problem in doing that too. Who knows, with Kronos losing so much of its companies and their CEO out of commission, it might lower the DC of the hostile takeover action for Kronos after a while. Then once we own it, we can have Winston run it in our stead to build up a large amount of loyalty with him all at once. It'll go up a ton especially if we make Syndrome's former area Super friendly, not only that it'll be a spit in his face.

Speaking of loyalty, I wonder if helping ruining Syndrome's life upped Mirage's loyalty 25 at once considering how much she disliked the man.
 
So considering how much of a disaster the expo was before the livestream ended, I'm pretty sure their stock price or whatever is about to take a LARGE dive. So with that in mind its probably going to be easier to just buy them out next turn.

So if we commit to it, Syndromes robot army, the compact rocketry, his fleshy army and all their upgrades, the flying cars and all the other stuff we left behind would belong to us....

Who's ready to become Syndromes most hated enemy?
 
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Personally, I was thinking of buying Kronos out entirely if the DC was reasonable, though if it's easier to buy a bunch of his other subsidiaries than I see no problem in doing that too. Who knows, with Kronos losing so much of its companies and their CEO out of commission, it might lower the DC of the hostile takeover action for Kronos after a while. Then once we own it, we can have Winston run it in our stead to build up a large amount of loyalty with him all at once. It'll go up a ton especially if we make Syndrome's former area Super friendly, not only that it'll be a spit in his face.

Speaking of loyalty, I wonder if helping ruining Syndrome's life upped Mirage's loyalty 25 at once considering how much she disliked the man.
The DC for the KRONOS Hostile Corporate Takeover is ???. It's sure to have a malus due to the Gala and the loss of Vegas to Sinatron.


So considering how much of a disaster the expo was before the livestream ended, I'm pretty sure their stock price or whatever is about to take a LARGE dive. So with that in mind its probably going to be easier to just buy them out next turn.

So if we commit to it, Syndromes robot army, the compact rocketry and all the other stuff we left behind would belong to us....

Who's ready to become Syndromes most hated enemy?

Oh, oh, MEEEEE! *waves raised hand in the air wildly*

Although Syndrome should be drastically reduced in threat once he no longer has the income of KRONOS to depend on. Still dangerous, though.


How about we do this:
[X] Martial: Assault A Rival
-[X] Sinatron (???)
--[X] Mongol Invasion Of Vegas
---[X] Ghengis Khan
[X] Stewardship: Hostile Corporate Takeover
-[X] KRONOS (???)
--[X] Doofenshmirtz
 
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All his Bases belong to us.

It wouldn't matter anymore. As we'd have access to all the tech he used for his "super" suit. Along with the blueprints for the suit itself most likely.

But considering the beating he received from Mass I'd be surprised if he isnt paralyzed or in a full body cast for the next say.... year?

Meh. I'm more worried about Sinatron would do after we buy the company. Sure he has no legal rights to it but he's technically Kronos property.
 
The DC for the KRONOS Hostile Corporate Takeover is ???. It's sure to have a malus due to the Gala and the loss of Vegas to Sinatron.




Oh, oh, MEEEEE! *waves raised hand in the air wildly*

Although Syndrome should be drastically reduced in threat once he no longer has the income of KRONOS to depend on. Still dangerous, though.


How about we do this:
[X] Martial: Assault A Rival
-[X] Sinatron (???)
--[X] Mongol Invasion Of Vegas
---[X] Ghengis Khan
[X] Stewardship: Hostile Corporate Takeover
-[X] KRONOS (???)
--[X] Doofenshmirtz
Honestly I wouldn't even waste time on Sinatron. That said, even with everything going on, Kronos likely still has a VERY HIGH DC. Let's not rush into things before seeing the DC.
 
The DC for the KRONOS Hostile Corporate Takeover is ???. It's sure to have a malus due to the Gala and the loss of Vegas to Sinatron.




Oh, oh, MEEEEE! *waves raised hand in the air wildly*

Although Syndrome should be drastically reduced in threat once he no longer has the income of KRONOS to depend on. Still dangerous, though.


How about we do this:
[X] Martial: Assault A Rival
-[X] Sinatron (???)
--[X] Mongol Invasion Of Vegas
---[X] Ghengis Khan
[X] Stewardship: Hostile Corporate Takeover
-[X] KRONOS (???)
--[X] Doofenshmirtz
To be honest if we do send Khan out to attack, I'd like to recruit Warren Peace to go with him. He needs some structure and Khan has led armies. I'm sure the duo would work out.

But it would have to be an assassination though. I don't want the public to link it to us. I don't care if the other kings find out but I'd rather the public still see us as a wacky pharmacist.
 
We're buying Insuricare this turn. If the DC is low enough, I'd be down for buying out some of Syndrome's other shells if the thread is interested.
Unfortunately I don't think Kronos has many shell companies, Insuricare is a separate company that Kronos is very much entangled with, though DevTech might be one though we might be betterment off just buying Kronos if we can

In my opinion the main advantages of buying Insuricare are:

1) It will probably let us know the DC of buying Kronos since the two companies are very intertwined
2) It will give us information on a lot of things that Syndrome was doing and who he has in his employ since all those things are insured by Insuricare
3) It will reduce the DC of buying out Kronos since it's probably easier to do that when you control their insurance payouts, which on top of the very probable DC reduction from Syndrome being in no position to protest Doof buying his company, the enormous drop in their stock as a result of the gala being attacked, the Omnidroids crashing, Syndrome ordering his robots to kill people on a livestream and Sinatron going rogue and the possible benefit of sending Mirage to buy out a company she is extremely familiar with will probably be a significant reduction in the DC
What are Syndrome's other shells anyway? I didn't realize he had ties to Insuricare.

EDIT: Actually, who's our best Stewardship hero? What with the absolute DISASTER that was the Gala, I bet we could do a Hostile Corporate Takeover action next turn and succeed.

EDIT 2: Apparently it's Doof, with 24 Stewardship. That actually ties in well with the 3 Personal Actions for a reroll thing.
Kronos doesn't own Insuricare but basically all of their insurance polices, personal or otherwise, are with them and Syndrome really likes them for their anti-super policies

And other than Doof our best Stewardship character is Mirage, who just so happened to be a very high ranking executive in Kronos Industries before she came to work for Doof
 
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How about we do this:
[X] Martial: Assault A Rival
-[X] Sinatron
--[X] Ghengis Khan
[X] Stewardship: Hostile Corporate Takeover
-[X] KRONOS (???)
--[X] Doofenshmirtz
The only thing I'm iffy on is the Assualt A Rival action, without some lucky events on his side, Sinatron is doomed to fail, though this does get rid of him as a future foe we might have to deal with and it'll give us brownie points for the government and Russ.

Let's see how all of our other actions turn out and the rolls of everyone else before we commit to everything.

Honestly I wouldn't even waste time on Sinatron. That said, even with everything going on, Kronos likely still has a VERY HIGH DC. Let's not rush into things before seeing the DC.
Although Sinatron isn't going to be able to hold Vegas, he'll be a possible wildcard and threat. He could blame us for not giving him the Chip and come after is, although by the time he's ready we could have built up a strong enough defense that it'll be an annoyance rather than a legit threat.
 
Unfortunately I don't think Kronos has many shell companies, Insuricare is a separate company that Kronos is very much entangled with, though DevTech might be one though we might be betterment off just buying Kronos if we can

In my opinion the main advantages of buying Insuricare are:

1) It will probably let us know the DC of buying Kronos since the two companies are very intertwined
2) It will give us information on a lot of things that Syndrome was doing and who he has in his employ since all those things are insured by Insuricafe
3) It will reduce the DC of buying out Kronos since it's probably easier to do that when you control their insurance payouts, which on top of the very probable DC reduction from Syndrome being in no position to protest Doof buying his company, the enormous drop in their stock as a result of the gala being attacked, the Omnidroids crashing, Syndrome ordering his robots to kill people on a livestream and Sinatron going rogue and the possible benefit of sending Mirage to buy out a company she is extremely familiar with will probably be a significant reduction in the DC

Kronos doesn't own Insuricare but basically all of their insurance polices, personal or otherwise, are with them and Syndrome really likes them for their anti-super policies

And other than Doof our best Stewardship character is Mirage, who just so happened to be a very high ranking executive in Kronos Industries before she came to work for Doof
OOh that's an excellent point! Buying out Insuricare could very well tell us the Kronos DC!
 
The only thing I'm iffy on is the Assualt A Rival action, without some lucky events on his side, Sinatron is doomed to fail, though this does get rid of him as a future foe we might have to deal with and it'll give us brownie points for the government and Russ.

Let's see how all of our other actions turn out and the rolls of everyone else before we commit to everything.


Although Sinatron isn't going to be able to hold Vegas, he'll be a possible wildcard and threat. He could blame us for not giving him the Chip and come after is, although by the time he's ready we could have built up a strong enough defense that it'll be an annoyance rather than a legit threat.
It's more "I see an opportunity to potentially nab ALL of Syndrome's territory/stuff, including his ex-capital, and basically render him a non-threat, and I really really want it"
 
It's more "I see an opportunity to potentially nab ALL of Syndrome's territory/stuff, including his ex-capital, and basically render him a non-threat, and I really really want it"
No way it ends up working out like that. Maybe if we rushed stewardship instead of martial this whole time, but even with the hits, Kronos is almost certainly still going to be in the hundreds for DC.
 
No way it ends up working out like that. Maybe if we rushed stewardship instead of martial this whole time, but even with the hits, Kronos is almost certainly still going to be in the hundreds for DC.
We should keep chipping away at the DC through stealthy assaults/espionage/sabotage and other methods to continually lower the DC.

If we find ways to lower the DC for ourselves and not others, that also means we are likely to be the ones to actually end up doing the hostile takeover, instead of it getting swiped by Xanatos or Glomgold.
 
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Couldn't Mirage help us with it? She'd know who to bribe and who to put pressure on to help make the buy right?

But we really have to think this through. Syndrome, despite all his posturing, was the driving force of the company. Their products are most likely the result of his own research into it. I'm not saying he didn't have some help but most likely he was responsible for a good 90% of it. Depending on how hes doing (it's entirely possible he died from internal injuries later) the DC could be MUCH lower for a turn or two.
 
We should keep chipping away at the DC through stealthy assaults/espionage/sabotage and other methods to continually lower the DC.

If we find ways to lower the DC for ourselves and not others, that also means we are likely to be the ones to actually end up doing the hostile takeover, instead of it getting swiped by Xanatos or Glomgold.
That's something we'll have to weigh against building the toon railroad. It might be a good idea, but I don't have enough info r/n to make a judgement.
 
Man, we're going to have to clear and hold all those freaking tunnels Lizzie excavated. Who knows what/who has set up shop down there?!
 
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