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TheGleeman said:
And how are we supposed to get home (which by that logic would mean to either travel "anti-clockwise" or to hop-skip-and-jump across *infinite* universes) again? sry, but I never really liked that bit of technobabble...
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Basically Baljeet said that its easier to travel to another dimension then return home from said dimension.

Our Inator likely operates by opening a portal and keeping the portal open til it closes, since we're cheating using a magical power source and it still puts untold pressure of the power grid.
 
Hopefully we can improve our dimensional technology so we don't knock out Doofania's poeer grid every time we use it, but I imagine outside of literally just finding something better any options to improve the ODI will be locked behind actually building and using the thing.
 
I'm not against using other dimensions for fun and profit but there are far more efficient ways to do so than stealing their movies.

For example: finding a dimension where substances that are incredibly rare in ours are incredibly common.

A single trip to the Platinumverse pays for itself.
 
Tadpoleon said:
I'm not against using other dimensions for fun and profit but there are far more efficient ways to do so than stealing their movies.

For example: finding a dimension where substances that are incredibly rare in ours are incredibly common.

A single trip to the Platinumverse pays for itself.
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True, that would make sense, but two counterpoints:

1: Any universe like that is probably being fought over by at least three dimensional Kings and like fuck are we ready to enter that free for all

2: Pirating movies sounds way more fun, a proper disney villain diabolical scheme. A real Doof plan that also makes sense logically, at least somewhat.
 
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T2E said:
Andrias (from Amphibia) is an interdimensional conqueror with a robot army.
Now, I don't know whether he's actively started conquering yet, but still.
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He literally can't he has the single worst means of interdimensional transport out of anyone except maybe the Owl House dweebs.

Even if he did, I don't think his weird golem punk frog robots use conventional circuitboards.
 
Tadpoleon said:
He literally can't he has the single worst means of interdimensional transport out of anyone except maybe the Owl House dweebs.

Even if he did, I don't think his weird golem punk frog robots use conventional circuitboards.
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as the frog shaped interlude shown us, they can interface with it pretty well, if need a bit of help with it at first...
so, yes, material is important but the frogs can and will assimilate tech if its good enough for them.
 
Tadpoleon said:
For example: finding a dimension where substances that are incredibly rare in ours are incredibly common.
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That runs the risk of *crashing the entire market*, though.
But yeah, the ODI being so power-hungry that Danvilles grid might collapse is another reason to conquer Drusselstein and put stuff like the ODI there (*after* the necessary groundwork has been done, of course)
 
Tadpoleon said:
He literally can't he has the single worst means of interdimensional transport out of anyone except maybe the Owl House dweebs.
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By default his KLR has Andrias have just enough power in the box to do some raiding of nearby dimensions, but he isn't able to launch an invasion yet and knows it. He simply doesn't have enough resources do to Amphibia being pretty poor in mentals and not industrial enough to let him mass produce his frobots.

If he notices us he'll be annoyed, but Anne is still a threat and he can't launch an assault against us quite yet. At most he would try to intercept our guys bringing the money back to the portal.

Belos also technically had worse Interdimensional Travel, but he's likely not even aware of dimensions other then the Isles and Earth.

TheGleeman said:
That runs the risk of *crashing the entire market*, though.
But yeah, the ODI being so power-hungry that Danvilles grid might collapse is another reason to conquer Drusselstein and put stuff like the ODI there (*after* the necessary groundwork has been done, of course)
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ODI likely won't have enough electricity in Drusselstein, they use goat power.
 
...can we use Magic?
Like, if we had Golumetric theory done, we could have norm golems/magical normbots... or just small golems powering the norm bots.

And with mapping ley lines, we could tap into them for power.... if we have any nearby.
 
TheGleeman said:
That runs the risk of *crashing the entire market*, though.
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I'm gonna take a minute to vent about how fucking much I fucking hate this stupid fucking talking point.

Inflation only happens when supply outstrips demand. Inflation is far more structural than material. Printing more money or mining more silver is not what causes inflation except at absurd extremes like what the Spanish Empire did in the Andes and even that took a solid few decades to set in along with the increasing use of paper money for taxation purposes simultaneously reducing the demand for boullion.

Please read an actual economist's account of inflation and how reducing it to "more of x" is not sufficient.

It would take an absolutely fucking absurd amount of production to crash the rare metal economy on anything for the simple fact that as it stands there is an extremely high demand for all of it, particularly for metals with actual pressingly important uses like platinum conductors or catalytic converters in vehicles which reduce polluting exhaust (GREEVIL!).

The answer of "tee hee inflation" to hypotheticals about the midas touch or a magic money printer or whatever is just dumb because it does not account for the minimal structural impact a single additional source of an already constantly produced resource would actually have.

We mine over 200 tonnes of new platinum every year.
DEI could mine and sell just 30kg of the stuff annually and make an extra million dollars in yearly profit.
0.015% addition to the yearly supply.

We could mine a hundred times that and not even make a dent in the price of platinum if we used it purely for internal purposes, which would still save us money because we wouldn't need to buy from external suppliers to perform our mad science/equipment manufacturing.
 
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Tadpoleon said:
We could mine a hundred times that and not even make a dent in the price of platinum if we used it purely for internal purposes, which would still save us money because we wouldn't need to buy from external suppliers to perform our mad science/equipment manufacturing.
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Oh that's a good point. Instead of selling the raw/refined material on the open market, keep it in house and use it to make goods so cheap that they undercut competitors while allowing Doofenshmirtz (Gre)Evil Incorporated to eat market share.

I do think just looking for "Easy Raw Material X" dimension is kind of boring as a thing outside of a short cash grab type pursuit unless it's a fancy Raw Material that we can use to make fancy stuff (a bit like how we could've had a whole Flubber tech tree had we risked going for it) but I can't say the idea doesn't have some appeal. Though I also have to acknowledge I think it's more likely to find a virgin world (or even more likely inhabited dimensions) than "Planet of X Raw Material" type dimensions. But these are all hypothetical discussions anyway!

To be honest I like most of the ideas here. It'e always a fun mix of whacky and cutthroat realism.
 
Qastiel said:
I do think just looking for "Easy Raw Material X" dimension is kind of boring as a thing outside of a short cash grab type pursuit unless it's a fancy Raw Material that we can use to make fancy stuff (a bit like how we could've had a whole Flubber tech tree had we risked going for it) but I can't say the idea doesn't have some appeal. Though I also have to acknowledge I think it's more likely to find a virgin world (or even more likely inhabited dimensions) than "Planet of X Raw Material" type dimensions. But these are all hypothetical discussions anyway!
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The problem with a virgin/inhabited world is that other parties would be interested, which would suck us into the politics of the Metawars.

Our best bet to take advantage of the ODI without drawing the bad sort of attention (too early) is to try to find a niche-use world that most of the interdimensional powers wouldn't care about.
 
Penguinbowler said:
ODI likely won't have enough electricity in Drusselstein, they use goat power.
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I did say "*after the necessary groundwork has been done*, of course" - please pay attention to my comments.

Tadpoleon said:
I'm gonna take a minute to vent about how fucking much I fucking hate this stupid fucking talking point.

Inflation only happens when supply outstrips demand. Inflation is far more structural than material. Printing more money or mining more silver is not what causes inflation except at absurd extremes like what the Spanish Empire did in the Andes and even that took a solid few decades to set in along with the increasing use of paper money for taxation purposes simultaneously reducing the demand for boullion.

Please read an actual economist's account of inflation and how reducing it to "more of x" is not sufficient.

It would take an absolutely fucking absurd amount of production to crash the rare metal economy on anything for the simple fact that as it stands there is an extremely high demand for all of it, particularly for metals with actual pressingly important uses like platinum conductors or catalytic converters in vehicles which reduce polluting exhaust (GREEVIL!).

The answer of "tee hee inflation" to hypotheticals about the midas touch or a magic money printer or whatever is just dumb because it does not account for the minimal structural impact a single additional source of an already constantly produced resource would actually have.

We mine over 200 tonnes of new platinum every year.
DEI could mine and sell just 30kg of the stuff annually and make an extra million dollars in yearly profit.
0.015% addition to the yearly supply.

We could mine a hundred times that and not even make a dent in the price of platinum if we used it purely for internal purposes, which would still save us money because we wouldn't need to buy from external suppliers to perform our mad science/equipment manufacturing.
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I said "we are *running the risk of*", not "we *Will*"
 
TheGleeman said:
I did say "*after the necessary groundwork has been done*, of course" - please pay attention to my comments.
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I mean I think in general it's a waste of money to try and rebuild our labspace in Drusselstein. Not against Conquering it, but moving our things from Danville is likely a bad idea economically do to the massive cost of set up combined with the poor labor pool in Drusselstein for SCIENCE!

I would still love to conquer it someday, who knows what we could find their, I just feel "Labs in Drusselstein" might not be the best use of it. Especially since we ran out of Flubber.
 
So do we think we'll actually the magical lava doom army, or what? They feel a bit strong, unless they're way weaker than advertised we'll probably only get a few, or we'll get a side benefit like access to the duck family or a few artefacts.
 
KnownParadox said:
So do we think we'll actually the magical lava doom army, or what? They feel a bit strong, unless they're way weaker than advertised we'll probably only get a few, or we'll get a side benefit like access to the duck family or a few artefacts.
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I don't think we're getting the army, mainly because of Feldrake's track record, but going by the occult crit at the beginning there might be some ritual stuff up for grabs.

I'm curious if Kitsune having the tailsman will come into play here though, we put it on her at the beginning of the turn plan, and we might be coming up to a combat situation right now.
 
Going back to potential actions, I feel Celena is important to do in one of the two upcoming turns (If not next turn, the turn after to get to a 100% success chance).

I want to ask her about the other queens so we know which one is missing.
 
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