While there is a lot of synergy there as both Jumba and Janus are crazy-but-brilliant supervillains in love with their tech, and I could see him amusingly arguing with Jumba over their appreciation for different styles of Rock'n'Roll, Ed is more directly destructive compared to Janus and Jumba's more secondhand brand of chaos.
I don't see how that is a problem, necessarily.

If he likes hands on combat and such, he could be an experiment wrangler.
 
- Goliath and Eliza died in a fight against Demona, which she pinned on Tony friggin Dracon because *of course she is being blame-shifty again*
Well, not quite. My understanding is that Demona specifically set up Eliza to die against Tony Dracon, and that also got Goliath killed. She was never directly involved, and she didn't exactly frame anyone. She just refused to accept that she was the cause of it.
 
Dang, I hoped that Kitsune rolling well would give us an actual in to the Magical Underground instead of "only" an overview of the political climate - not that I am complaining though.
Well, now we do. Namely, we know that there isn't an in to the Magus Bazaar, there's an "in" with one of the two factions that run it, The Morganian sorcerers, represented by Marrok, and most likely led by Hovarth, and the traditional protectors of magical kind, represented by Lao Shi
Evil Western magicians of the Morganites (that idiot Horvarth is one of them, right?
1. Horvath is one of the most skilled mortal mages on the planet, maybe don't try to offend him. 2. Not just a member of the Morganians. He's high up and, with the context of his original movie, it's highly possible he's actually the leader of that faction.
 
1. Horvath is one of the most skilled mortal mages on the planet, maybe don't try to offend him. 2. Not just a member of the Morganians. He's high up and, with the context of his original movie, it's highly possible he's actually the leader of that faction.

Unless we get Chernabog from the original draft for Sorcerer's Apprentice or Morgana breaks out, Horvath should be the Morganian leader, yes.
 
Wait... If we're forming a Heroball led by TECHNOR; and TECHNOR is working on a giant robot body where he occupies the head; and we start working on personalized vehicles for the Heroball members; and then we put those things together...

TECHNOR Rangers, combine into the Megabody?
 
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Wait... If we're forming a Heroball led by TECHNOR; and TECHNOR is working on a giant robot body where he occupies the head; and we start working on personalized vehicles for the Heroball members; and then we put those things together...

TECHNOR Rangers, combine into the Megabody?
Nah, tanknor has already been rejected.

Maybe a vehicle that his mech body can fit inside as a passenger, but he still would prefer to be his mech rather than being a vehicle.
 
We probably want to unlock cloak technology, exotic vehicles, and sublight drives before we have Janus build the black ops vehicle, then once the group is formed Janus builds them a vehicle integrating all of that research.
I would once again like to point at Ed for all of those actions. Even because, Janus is now on the council and won't be doing them any time soon.
 
I would once again like to point at Ed for all of those actions. Even because, Janus is now on the council and won't be doing them any time soon.
Well the cloak and sublight is both Jumba stuff because GalFed.

I would also like to recruit Ed, just not sure how it fits into the short term timeline.

Timeline A
November - Recruit Red Feather
January - Recruit Diplo or Intrigue Unit
March - Recruit Intrigue or Diplo Unit
May - Recruit Motor Ed
July - Motor Ed does Exotic Vehicles
September - Buffer
November - Buffer
January - Janus builds black ops vehicle (Motor Ed helps?)

Timeline B
November - Recruit Red Feather
January - Recruit Diplo / Intrigue Unit
March - Recruit Motor Ed
May - Motor Ed does Exotic Vehicles
July - Janus builds black ops vehicle (Motor Ed helps?)

Issue with Timeline B:
Assumes every recruitment and action succeeds, no wiggle room if any fail. And the black ops needs to be formed before July so Janus can start on their vehicle. Also, people probably want to recruit a 2nd Diplo/Intrigue unit.

Timeline A seems pretty realistic for getting all of those actions done, and getting Motor Ed.

I see Motor Ed being a unit we have a chance of convincing people to recruit, especially to join a potential future "Chaotic Evil Scientists" heroball.
 
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Well the cloak and sublight is both Jumba stuff because GalFed.

I would also like to recruit Ed, just not sure how it fits into the short term timeline.
Ed is actually rated to work on spacecraft, particularly and specifically if the goal is to reverse engineer the tech to work on cars (he canonically modifies a prototype rocket with incredibly advanced boosters into a dragster race car).

I can't guarantee his bonus would be bigger than Jumba's for it, but it should still be up there, and we need Jumba working on genetics, especially now that Janus is unavailable and Glomgold put a deadline on dinosaur-related actions.
 
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Ed is actually rated to work on spacecraft, particularly and specifically if the goal is to reverse engineer the tech to work on cars.

I can't guarantee his bonus would be bigger than Jumba's for it, but it should still be up there, and we need Jumba working on genetics, especially now that Janus is unavailable and Glomgold put a deadline on dinosaur-related actions.
There is only one dinosaur learning action we need for Jumba to do for the park, the rest is stewardship.
 
Unless we get Chernabog from the original draft for Sorcerer's Apprentice or Morgana breaks out, Horvath should be the Morganian leader, yes.
Is there somewhere you can find that original draft, perchance? I've heard about the original plan where Chernabog was gonna be the big bad but I've never seen where it comes from.

I'm TOTALLY not gonna use the existence of that draft to plug Chernabog into a Gridlocked campaign whenever I decide to run one.
 
I very much appreciate such a rubric, but the specific argumentation in Janus's case is flawed, In canon he was plotting to replace humanity with reptimanity, but in Doofquest he is only confirmed to have "an unspecified transhumanist agenda, that may or may not involve reptiles or other improvements to the human genome" also working with Jumba may allow him to go about his transhumanist dreams in a manner that does not inevitably lead to conflict with DEI, such as "cure genetic diseases"
Okay, that dials back his "likelihood of antagonism" a notch or two. Still not low. Also, notably, he's probably one of the heroes more likely to have some kind of violent or dangerous agenda if he does turn against us.

If most of our heroes stopped trusting us, they'd probably just leave. Some would be more likely to blow shit up on the way out, or become enemy factions. I think Janus is pretty high on that list.
 
Okay, that dials back his "likelihood of antagonism" a notch or two. Still not low. Also, notably, he's probably one of the heroes more likely to have some kind of violent or dangerous agenda if he does turn against us.

If most of our heroes stopped trusting us, they'd probably just leave. Some would be more likely to blow shit up on the way out, or become enemy factions. I think Janus is pretty high on that list.
Yeah, he's more of an eight than a nine, but not necessarily a "guaranteed to go off" eight, as much as a "bad if it went off" eight.
 
Well, now we do. Namely, we know that there isn't an in to the Magus Bazaar, there's an "in" with one of the two factions that run it, The Morganian sorcerers, represented by Marrok, and most likely led by Hovarth, and the traditional protectors of magical kind, represented by Lao Shi

1. Horvath is one of the most skilled mortal mages on the planet, maybe don't try to offend him. 2. Not just a member of the Morganians. He's high up and, with the context of his original movie, it's highly possible he's actually the leader of that faction.

Again, I prefer Lao Shis "faction" as a contact for several reasons (one of which being that the Morganians seem to be a bit too unhingedly Evil to work with our kooky and petty evil).

And yet this "one of the most skilled mortal mages on the planet" managed to overlook a giant magically-supported battle masquerading as a gang brawl that the boss of one side in the battle asked him to partake in to prevent what might have culminate in *a genocide on all of Humanity, including himself*. Heck, wasn´t he also part of "our side" against the Sanderson Sisters during the Auction *only two months prior* to the aforementioned giant battle? If so, then his magical prowess was only *barely enough* to prevent a Masquerade breach there as well - *after* other apparently powerful mages supported him, mind you.

So yeah, from where I am standing, right now Horvath isn´t exactly warranting the kind of thunder he seems to be demanding, you know?

Unless we get Chernabog from the original draft for Sorcerer's Apprentice or Morgana breaks out, Horvath should be the Morganian leader, yes.

...*That* Chernabog is a different one from the one featured in Classical DVV, right? Because otherwise that´d be a breach of that whole "no cross-pollination" rule between Gridlocked and Classic that I still don´t quite agree with, you know?
 
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Yeah, he's more of an eight than a nine, but not necessarily a "guaranteed to go off" eight, as much as a "bad if it went off" eight.
Remember that the twelve-point scale doesn't measure everything about the situation.

It certainly doesn't measure how bad it would be if the hero decided to part ways with us.

For example, Genghis Khan is much less likely to leave our side than Phineas and Ferb, but despite the boys' engineering genius... All else being equal I would much rather piss them off than piss off Temujin. Phineas and Ferb don't have a history of murdering their enemies and everyone standing in the same zip code as their enemies when they feel insulted. Temujin does.
 
For example, Genghis Khan is much less likely to leave our side than Phineas and Ferb, but despite the boys' engineering genius... All else being equal I would much rather piss them off than piss off Temujin. Phineas and Ferb don't have a history of murdering their enemies and everyone standing in the same zip code as their enemies when they feel insulted. Temujin does.
Oooh, so that's why Genghis pioneered one of the most efficient postal systems of the ancient world! He wanted to know what zip code to send his murder to.
 
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Oooh, so that's why Genghis pioneered one of the most efficient postal systems of the ancient world! He wanted to know what zip code to send his murder to.

Yeah, you don´t create one of the biggest Empires in all of history (although admittedly, it very quickly dissolved again thanks to a succession crisis after his death) by not having some strong infrastructure (both economically and administrative) at your back and call, you know? He wasn´t *just* a mass murderer after all, but people like to "forget" that for various reasons.
 
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