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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

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[ ]Write In: "No, I'm worse than a villain. I'm a coward. All my time at Kronus working under Buddy, under Syndrome. I watched, and said nothing. I watched, as he tricked hero, after hero to test themselves against his creation, against his devices. I helped him find them, helped him lure them in, and said nothing while one by one, Syndrome had them killed. Just to improve his robot. It wasn't until Syndrome had killed all of the Parr family, that I understood what I was helping him do. When it was just the heroes. I could tell myself that we were cleaning up the government's mess. I could convince myself that his claims to a defense contract included getting rid of the heroes of old. But when he kill off Elastagirl, and her children, coming to save their father, her husband, Mr. Incredible... I couldn't convince myself any longer. And... I left. I joined Doofenshmirtz (sp?) because he's simple; what you see, is what you get. There were no hidden vileness, no secret nature. And I made myself forget, forget about my cowardice. About all the heroes I helped Syndrome kill. And to an extent, have helped the Doctor when he actually tries to help others. Ironically, he's less evil than he wants to believe, just wants people to acknowledge him for his greatness and all that, like most ego-maniacs."

Or something to that effect. Not good at writing. kinda also want to somehow call Evelyn out on her blaming her current, and recent actions on the "sins of others" instead of owning up to her own behavior. But again, can't really think of anything to really make it work... also my suggested "write in" is really preachy, so... please don't vote for it, unless someone else can par it down into something writeable.
 
[ ] Write-in: The Story of Buddy Pines
-[ ] Screw it. If your story is getting out, you'll tell it your way. Damn the consequences.
-[ ] "You mean my fling with Syndrome? The atrocities we committed together? The blood of hundreds I have on my hands and think of every. Single. Night?"
-[ ] Tell how Buddy Pines was brushed aside by Mr. Incredible, for reasons that made sense; he was a kid playing dress-up, not a hero. He was too full of himself, even then, to see it
-[ ] Tell how Buddy dedicated his life to revenge, to making the word "super" meaningless
-[ ] Tell how he won you over, with his honeyed words and promises, and how you and he led hundreds of desperate souls wanting to help to their deaths
-[ ] Tell how that culminated with his Syndrome Resistance, Mr. Incredible. How he was brought low and broken by you and him... and how he proved to you just how shallow it all was
--[ ] "Release me! NOW!" "Or what?" "I'll crush her." "That sounds a little dark for you... eh, go ahead."
-[ ] Speak of the guilt, the pain, the torture those crimes put you through every night... then look that bitch right in the eyes and say she's no different from Syndrome, because she will never understand what that's like. If anything, she's worse than he'll ever be with what she's done. So she can take her "holier-than-thou" schtick, shove it up her electric ass, and PISS. THE FUCK. OFF
 
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Keep in mind that this is being recorded and admitting to mass murder is more likely than not to get Mirage imprisoned.

I really don't have any investment in how this vote resolves itself because it seems like each path is going to lead to us losing, but eh.
 
mangawriter77 said:
[ ] Write-in: The Story of Buddy Pines
-[ ] Screw it. If your story is getting out, you'll tell it your way. Damn the consequences.
-[ ] "You mean my fling with Syndrome? The atrocities we committed together? The blood of hundreds I have on my hands and think of every. Single. Night?"
-[ ] Tell how Buddy Pines was brushed aside by Mr. Incredible, for reasons that made sense; he was a kid playing dress-up, not a hero. He was too full of himself, even then, to see it
-[ ] Tell how Buddy dedicated his life to revenge, to making the word "super" meaningless
-[ ] Tell how he won you over, with his honeyed words and promises, and how you and he led hundreds of desperate souls wanting to help to their deaths
-[ ] Tell how that culminated with his Syndrome Resistance, Mr. Incredible. How he was brought low and broken by you and him... and how he proved to you just how shallow it all was
--[ ] "Release me! NOW!" "Or what?" "I'll crush her." "That sounds a little dark for you... eh, go ahead."
-[ ] Speak of the guilt, the pain, the torture those crimes put you through every night... then look that bitch right in the eyes and say she's no different from Syndrome, because she will never understand what that's like. If anything, she's worse than he'll ever be with what she's done. So she can take her "holier-than-thou" schtick, shove it up her electric ass, and PISS. THE FUCK. OFF
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Alright let's tone down the edge.

This isn't the big epic moment where we risk it all to be a "badass", thinking plot armor will shield us cause we're the questers.

Comparing the options, I'm leaning towards leaving, but might be willing to do one of the 2 counter-attacks.

[ ] Leave
Maybe

[ ] Fight on
Nope

[ ] Pretend to agree
Maybe

[ ] Her Own Medicine
Maybe
 
Nystical said:
Alright let's tone down the edge.

This isn't the big epic moment where we risk it all to be a "badass", thinking plot armor will shield us cause we're the questers.

Comparing the options, I'm leaning towards leaving, but might be willing to do one of the 2 counter-attacks.

[ ] Leave
Maybe

[ ] Fight on
Nope

[ ] Pretend to agree
Maybe

[ ] Her Own Medicine
Maybe
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Leaving is, like, the worst option here. I feel like giving into the demands of a super-hating serial killer for her own convenience would...It'd be Buddy all over again. No thank you. I say, pretend to agree. Lull her guard down, then take her down before she has a chance to say shit.
 
...Man, there really is no good or even best option here

Can't retreat because Evelyn's too dangerous at this point, and just the fact she implied we're hiding something and we caved would be enough for some parties to do some digging on their own. Yet Mirage's past getting out in any sense would almost certainly result in us losing Mirage as a unit in the best circumstances and be absolutely disastrous for the company as a whole in the worst. Unless we render her not a threat before she speaks, seems like every option will cost us more than enough to make this a net loss even if we do win in the end.

With that in mind, the final two non write-ins seem the most appealing to me, in spite of how risky both are.
 
MrHobbit said:
Keep in mind that this is being recorded and admitting to mass murder is more likely than not to get Mirage imprisoned.
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Is it still? There's been a lot of major damage going on all over the place, I wouldn't be at all surprised if something happened to the recording equipment. And, in theory, something could be made to happen to the recording equipment, and it wouldn't raise eyebrows. Still, outright confession is probably a bad idea.

On the other hand, I have to wonder, does it matter either way? From the sounds of it, Evelyn probably has enough hard evidence to bury Mirage if she gets out of this alive. And while I wouldn't put it past Sinatron to make it vanish if he thought Mirage had reformed, I don't think he had time to decide. We may be doomed either way, no matter what Evelyn says here.
 
Honestly, I think the only good options here are Fight On or Pretend to Agree. Leaving will just damage our relationship with the super community, plus letting Evelyn get away would tank our PR. Her Own Medicine has so many ways it can go wrong, I'm not gonna even touch that. Fight On has the consequence of Evelyn blabbing, which would likely cause us to lose Mirage and tank our PR for having a hero killer as a temp CEO, but would still put Evelyn out of the picture, and we may be able to run some damage control with the fact that Mirage burned and ruined herself all so she could stop the bad guy. Pretend to Agree has the same consequences as Fight On, with a chance for a much better result if we manage to land the blow before she starts talking. So, yeah, Fight On and Pretend to Agree are pretty much our best options
 
Tumach said:
Is it still? There's been a lot of major damage going on all over the place, I wouldn't be at all surprised if something happened to the recording equipment. And, in theory, something could be made to happen to the recording equipment, and it wouldn't raise eyebrows. Still, outright confession is probably a bad idea.

On the other hand, I have to wonder, does it matter either way? From the sounds of it, Evelyn probably has enough hard evidence to bury Mirage if she gets out of this alive. And while I wouldn't put it past Sinatron to make it vanish if he thought Mirage had reformed, I don't think he had time to decide. We may be doomed either way, no matter what Evelyn says here.
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Honestly, I doubt it. Evelyn is sorta....Uh...Going fucking insane right about now. She's pulling everything and the kitchen sink to see what sticks. That said, yes, it is still recording. I say, take her out before she has a chance to say shit.
 
An option that reads kinda like, "Bite your tongue and say nothing to the deranged villainess. You... you'll be needing to fess up to your colleages now, now that your past has been so blatantly called forward. But it's going to be on your terms, and in a place where you aren't being filmed for all eyes to see." That's what I'm thinking of.

Because frankly, I'm okay with her spilling the beans to people like Hego and her close associates, even if it's potentially critically damaging to her relationship with said people. But on live TV where Doof will then be forced to either sever ties with many or else hand over Mirage for a life sentence away in prison? Yeah. Fuck that.
 
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DaOneInDaCorner said:
An option that reads kinda like, "Bite your tongue and say nothing to the deranged villainess. You... you'll be needing to fess up to your colleages now, now that your past has been so blatantly called forward. But it's going to be on your terms, and in a place where you aren't being filmed for all eyes to see." That's what I'm thinking of.

Because frankly, I'm okay with her spilling the beans to people like Hego and her close associates, even if it's potentially critically damaging to her relationship with said people. But on live TV where Doof will then be forced to either sever ties with many or else hand over Mirage for a life sentence away in prison? Yeah. Fuck that.
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The goal here is stop Eve from saying anything. So...I say it's fake surrender time.
 
woweed said:
The goal here is stop Eve from saying anything. So...I say it's fake surrender time.
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I'm fine with that. I was mostly saying to make clear to Mirage personally that this is something she has to address now, that regardless of stopping Eve here, she'll still come clean in private. Because pushing your serial murders further under the rug at this stage is kinda screwed up. At least for the people she knows and who trust her. Cuz again, I wanna avoid a prison sentence on Mirage, even if she 100% deserves it for things she knowingly did in the past.
 
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We absolutely can't leave. Edna is right there and would wreck us.

We can't use our hypnosis. This is being broadcast. That would ruin us.

We could pretend to surrender but if stuff goes wrong that's the same as fight on and makes us look treacherous. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing. And regardless of what we choose, if Evelyn survives then all of Mirages stuff is coming out anyway.

I would choose fight on. It makes us look the most heroic and we can claim Evelyn is insane to the public since she actually is. We can talk to Edna and Hego in private to let them know our side of it since stuff is coming up anyway and I doubt Edna will leave us alone after this.

All the choices are bad. Let's be the best people we can.

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Sinatrons remark about us and seeing if we redeem ourselves or not pushes it over the edge for me. Not sure if he has a plan or if he is even still alive or not but he's right. This is Mirages chance. Fight on.
 
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Briefly gonna say, I doubt anyone will judge us too harshly for fake retreating here. We're kinda fighting a super villainess and people drawing the line at being 'dishonorable' or something is silly given the circumstances. She's putting lives at risk with her actions and quite possibly murdered somebody. Us lying to take her down? Not a big deal.
 
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Why did Mirage work with Syndrome originally? I remember a throwaway line about powerful men, but that's not exactly a full explanation. I know why she betrayed him - she didn't appreciate Syndrome gambling with her life when Mr. Incredible took her hostage, and didn't consider Mr. Incredible not going through with killing her weakness.

I guess I'm trying to contextualize Mirage's redemption in this quest. Was she a true believer in Syndrome's anti-super vendetta and later had a change of heart? Did she just treat it as a job, not caring how messed up it was?

What motivated her, and besides Buddy being a dick, what motivated her to change?

Not that anything would really excuse her actions, but the details of her story seem relevant if we're considering sharing her story on camera.
 
Something to note for those who want to hide, trick, and shut her down before she says anything. We'd have to KILL her. Otherwise she will take Mirage with her out of pure Spite. Better to control the narrative and spin things as redemption, and use the Doc's usual insanity to help make long term imprisonment inviable without war occurring.
More than that, Edna Mode is here. Mirage won't be able to get out of this without problems. Better to rip things off.
 
I chose fight on a pure narrative weight, losing mirage would be bad but anything else is either too risky or unacceptable
 
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