DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
- Start date
- Crossover
- Location
- Two hours away
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I thought the scissor hunt would either become easier on account of reduced locations or harder due to heightened security.
Didn't cross my mind that anyone else was in the market for the snips.
- Location
- The Z-Cave
I feel extremely smug about how I predicted how Demona meeting Toffee would go.
- Location
- Somewhere nearby.
Only if the detractors are super arrogant about it and incredibly rude, like how the anti-OS people are here.
Toffee NegaQuest: Results of a Critical Critical Failure
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
- Location
- You'll neeever guess
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Toffee NegaQuest: Results of a Critical Critical Failure
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Just wanna point this out. Now that Demona's described what happened to her in New York, Toffee's gonna realize who exactly has Felldrake and what this means. Of course, this is going off the assumption that he was the one spying on us at the auction. Still, something to worry about.
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- Location
- Somewhere nearby.
He probably still in the crystal.
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
- Location
- You'll neeever guess
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Assuming the whole incident with Solego happened before Negaduck offed Darkwing, he's buried in the bottom of Scrooge's (or, I guess, now Glomgold's) Money Bin. Otherwise, things could get pretty bad if a certain fisherman catches that crystal. But, Shere Khan could have taken over Cape Suzette before the incident with Rebecca, so it's possible he's still locked up in that temple
- Location
- Attempting to cast animate object on a black hole.
The best Disney villains are often the ones that either have almost no backstory, or all the backstory.
Maleficent, back when all she had was the old Sleeping Beauty appearance? She stuck with people.
Doofenshmirtz? If he had a bit part, he'd just be another D-lister to fill out scenes so people could go "Hey, I know that guy!" and assert nerd-dominance.
If you're in B or C tier? You get just enough appearances to get contradictory characterization.
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How far reaching are the brownouts caused by Overclocking Technor?
If it's wide reaching enough we could do something like pitching a collaboration on a Greevil Energy Conservation Campaign to Shere Khan and justify it with Technor eating up the power saved by the program. Shere Khan gains some good publicity after his publicity nightmare and it doesn't effect his bottom line. Offer to Overclocking Technor and keep doing it to encourage the USA to overlook his latest mishap due a need for power.
If it's wide reaching enough we could do something like pitching a collaboration on a Greevil Energy Conservation Campaign to Shere Khan and justify it with Technor eating up the power saved by the program. Shere Khan gains some good publicity after his publicity nightmare and it doesn't effect his bottom line. Offer to Overclocking Technor and keep doing it to encourage the USA to overlook his latest mishap due a need for power.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I mean.
It's Demona's self-sabotage up against Toffee's resolve, patience, and skill at manipulation.
The irresistible farce is about to meet the immovable objective.
It's far reaching enough to give a -5 malus to all other actions in Doofania. I'm not sure what you're proposing.
- Location
- Somewhere nearby.
It's bad yes, but he has his work cut out for him. We are talking about someone so self-sabotaging that when she was under extremely powerful magic that served the soul purpose of making her less self-sacrificing, she still caused her own failure. If she is so inherently self-sacrificing that the literal Fates can't stop her, it's going to take a lot of doing, he might have just met his match.
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Toffee conquered a planet with Ludo as his proxy.
Even if Demona's self-sabotage is enforced by a trait, which we can't assume since Doof's isn't, it would be irresponsible to rely on that trait surviving Toffee's attention. We have to assume that Demona will be an asset for Toffee.
- Location
- Somewhere nearby.
Doofenshmirtz's failures were mostly the result of what his goals were combined with his self-admitted poor planning skills. He can still succeed.
Demona has self-sabotage and being her own worst enemy as a central core element of her character concept. If she doesn't self-sabotage, she isn't Demona anymore. It takes away the largest part of what makes her a good and compelling character, and just leaves some hate filled lump of Demona shaped disappointment in her place.
mangawriter77
Otaku^9000 (In my own opinion)
- Location
- You'll neeever guess
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I always saw it as the other way around. Demona's self-sabotaging habits were what made her pathetic and, honestly, a rather poor character. I mainly saw her as a grudge-filled, spiteful lump of anger and not much else. Take away that concept, and you have an actually compelling and dangerous villain.
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
"I will activate my Inator in three! Two! One and a half! One and one quarter! Perry the Platypus, why aren't you foiling me?"
That's great and all, but she did successfully steal three sacred artifacts and find an ally who's just as interested in human genocide as she is, so whatever the central core element of her character concept is here, she is capable of performing tasks such as finding Star.
- Location
- Somewhere nearby.
I said mostly, not all, and when he's not trying to do something bad he's usually successful.
Her self-sabotageing habits are more than just some hindrance or way to stop her from being a major league threat. She's quite capable of being a dangerous enemy even with it, and when she messes up she leaves quite a lot of collateral damage in her wake. On both her side, and the one she's fighting.
I touched on it when I talked about why I personally despise her so much, but her self-sabotaging nature and refusal to acknowledge her own faults is something special, as much as she would hate it being said like this, it's real, it's human. It's something that people do in real life, something that everyone has seen or done themselves. It makes her more than just some generic ball of hate, it makes her a person, a horrible person, but a person nevertheless.
It's what makes her more than just some villain, because you can be a good villain without being a good character. She's a good and well written character, like almost all of the ones from Gargoyles, just one you're intended to hate. Take it away and you just have some grudge filled pile of spite and hatred, nothing about her would be compelling, nothing about her would be interesting, she would lose that spark that makes her who she is, and what makes her so easy and enjoyable to hate.
Without that hatred I wouldn't have reacted so vehemently, I wouldn't have been as invested in the entirety of the 12th night, and it all stems from her being self-sabotaging. Nothing she would have done would have elected as much of an emotional response, because there'd be no human connection. She'd just be some generic bad guy who wants to do bad things because she is bad. With it, she's a multifaceted character with clearly defined flaws and a reason why no one can get through to her, because acknowledging that she's in the wrong is to acknowledge that she has always been doing the wrong thing, that everything she sacrificed and went through was for nothing, and no matter how much it costs her and how much it hurts she can't do that.
I'm not saying it can't happen, but what I'm saying is as a quest, as a story, it shouldn't happen.
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- Location
- Germany
Preferably with either Janna or Marco as to smooth over probable issues with Star getting approached by some guy *literally declaring himself and his company "EVIL"*
Let´s see who caves in first.
The difference between Doofs self-sabotage and Demonas is that while Heinz to a point *admits* he fucked up himself and even seems to deliberately hold himself back (self-destruct buttons and giving Perry a very sporting chance as well as ample prep time, anyone?) because he isn´t really truly into it and only acts "evil" because he feels "pressured" into it by his admittedly sucky past, Demona always blames anyone BUT herself, is truly rotten to the core and any time there is the merest kindling of realisation that maybe it´s her fault, she immediately snuffs it out and doubles down on on "everyone else is against me".
So in the end, while both Doof and Demona are their own worst enemies and could be ridiculously dangerous if that was taken away, with Doof it´s because deep down he´s a GOOD GUY who only thinks he has to be evil on account of his backstory being so shitty it´s not even funny anymore while Demona is just a spoiled, whiny brat who should have gotten read the riot act a thousand years ago.
So toffee's current stat is 52 martial and 50 intrigue, darn he hasn't been slacking off. We would at least need an team / heroball just to win a direct battle which isn't even counting his employees.
Can he dodge a missile?
Light
A world without Light would be Dark.
- Location
- United States
Look him up on Vs Battles Wiki. Sub-Relativistic speed.
He's probably a bit faster than what he'd need, but on the other hand, the plot should go by disney time.
nkd1325
KNIGHT OF ORANGE
- Location
- AT HIS MAJESTY'S SIDE
The VS Battles Wiki overhypes literally everyone. Toffee's main danger in a personal encounter comes from his absurd durability coupled with near total immortality and extreme intelligence.
So while he can't dodge a missile it would merely inconvenience him
So while he can't dodge a missile it would merely inconvenience him
>_>
Well, he does have all the magic now. I wouldn't be surprised if he could, if he even bothered.