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DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest

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[X] Tom
[X] Kitsune
[X] Lizzy

While I agree with the sentiment that we should use Hego more in general, I don't believe this is the time. We just sent him to the wasteland, and I'd rather hear Shego's response to that before sending him out again.
 
Murazor said:
Okay, rather than intentionally sending her to New York to fight, it is intentionally sending her to New York and then intentionally sending her to fight. As far as I am concerned, I see the emphasis in that to be akin to splitting hairs.
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It's not splitting hairs because once more, Doof would have no knowledge IC that any fight would break out retroactively because she would have been in New York before the fighting even started. For that matter, given that we can just as easily have them end up in New York by ignoring a personal, I'm fairly certain the IC reason would be more like she (and any others who ended up in New York from a non-National Action) went on her own for one reason or another.

Like, dude, the gargoyle invasion is happening all over NYC. It's not telling her to fight. It's her having already been in New York for whatever reason and then defending herself when the freaking apocalypse starts.
 
Alright, I've even it some thought, and I'm.changing my vote.

[X] Tom
[X] Khan
[X] Lizzy

Khan adds some more Martial, while Tim handles more of the Occult stuff. Lizzy is there for.Learning shenanigans and Intrigue stuff.

As it was pointed out, Kitsune clearly has an unpleasant past with Puck of some sort. Add in the fact that this is likely going to be something that's a threat to the entirety of New York, and the two are all but guaranteed to meet if we send the fox lady. I'd prefer to not stress her like that, so I'm changing my vote for her to move for Khan. I'm still.not voting for Hego, on the basis that this is going to be very dangerous, possibly to.life threatening levels, and until we get rid of Glory Daze's negative effects I'm not comfortable sending him into such a situation. Demona is vicious enough that it's all but guaranteed to trigger the negative effects.
 
The points brought up about Kitsune and Puck are definitely worth considering... but I also like the narrative of her going to save Janna

[X] Tom
[X] Kitsune
[X] Lizzy
 
ReaperofInterest said:
As it was pointed out, Kitsune clearly has an unpleasant past with Puck of some sort. Add in the fact that this is likely going to be something that's a threat to the entirety of New York, and the two are all but guaranteed to meet if we send the fox lady. I'd prefer to not stress her like that, so I'm changing my vote for her to move for Khan. I'm still.not voting for Hego, on the basis that this is going to be very dangerous, possibly to.life threatening levels, and until we get rid of Glory Daze's negative effects I'm not comfortable sending him into such a situation. Demona is vicious enough that it's all but guaranteed to trigger the negative effects.
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It's not so scary. With her new found resolve after nat 100 action and full team on her side she surely can meet Pack, who can't even attack her since it would not count as protecting Alexander. As result I'll give her better odds of positive personal development than in Hego case. And sending Khan while more safe doesn't have the same narrative weight and possibility of learning some more about Kitsune history.

And if we consider bad outcomes it's either her failing intimidation check and running from fight, which is not critical since she is mostly our diplo. Or if we consider her attacking Pack as possibility, I think they will be mostly unable to hurt each other, at which point she is viable to learn about his bound status and have a good laught at his expense, which should end this conflict.
 
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Alex Sol said:
It's not so scary. With her new found resolve after nat 100 action and full team on her side she surely can meet Pack, who can't even attack her since it would not count as protecting Alexander. As result I'll give her better odds of positive personal development than in Hego case. And sending Khan while more safe doesn't have the same narrative weight and possibility of learning some more about Kitsune history.

And if we consider bad outcomes it's either her failing intimidation check and running from fight, which is not critical since she is mostly our diplo. Or if we consider her attacking Pack as possibility, I think they will be mostly unable to hurt each other, at which point she is viable to learn about his bound status and have a good laught at his expense, which should end this conflict.
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Heck, as long as her team doesn´t botch up de-escalation between the two completely, I see no reason for Kitsune and Puck to fight in the first place.

Again, he should remember Janna from the auction, where they actually chatted rather amicable for a bit. This means that Puck and/or Xanatos should rightly conclude that the other three people converging around her are DEI as well and therefore are to be considered "vaguely allied" with XanatosCorp in trying to contain Demonas attack.

So unless things go *really badly* for some BS reason (like abyssmal dice rolls or us taking moronic actions against Xanatos), I don´t think that things between the heavy hitters of DEI and XC will go nasty.
 
TheGleeman said:
He actualy didn´t break the Masquerade with his unveiling of the Gargoyles by explicitly describing them as purely biological beings in nature.

As this Crisis Interlude/Quest implies, he probably realized that Demonas attack on NYC was imminent (with him obviously too late to fully avert that disaster) and so in atypically-for-him case of frantic desperation he wanted to pre-emptively portray Gargoyles *as a whole* as not too bad a people and hopefully paint Demona and her cronies as violent extremists rather than the norm.

So no, I don´t consider his action as him going back on his lecture to us about secrecy
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Oh, I agree, he's not going back on what he told us. It does push the edges of that, and might have gone over the edge entirely if it'd gone wrong, but it's either that or leave it up to Demona. Perfectly reasonable.

Of course, we're not someone perfectly reasonable, we're Dr Heinz Doofenshmirtz, and judging by this section of the interlude:
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Meanwhile, in Doofania...

"Pardon me Heinz?" Mirage asked. "It seems you've received a message from Mr. Xanatos."

"Oh? What's he want?"

"He just said "WVRN, 6pm."

Time passed.

...

"OH, WHAT THE HECK XANAY!??!?!"
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We're a bit irked. And this seems like something Doofenshmirtz would take petty revenge for. Nothing that actually crosses the line, but "I'm not touching you!" type games seem in order. And if we're sending people to New York anyway...

Of course, I don't really have anything in mind, so I'm just throwing out the suggestion.
 
Tumach said:
We're a bit irked. And this seems like something Doofenshmirtz would take petty revenge for. Nothing that actually crosses the line, but "I'm not touching you!" type games seem in order. And if we're sending people to New York anyway...

Of course, I don't really have anything in mind, so I'm just throwing out the suggestion.
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Yeah, but on the other hand Doof lacks proper context for why Xanatos did that stunt.

Once Doof understands what David was attempting with it, I can see "us" simply blinking a bit before shrugging and say "Fair enough, I guess...you still coulda told, though"
 
[X] Tom
[X] Kitsune
[X] Lizzy

Regarding Hego, we've been mocked for sticking him in PA hell. We don't need to send him on this particular mission to not do that.

Just stick him into the next Feldrake quest, say. Or have him pad out any other exploratory quest we do. Even if he doesn't add much in the way of stats, the experience will be good for him, and we've usually got a spare slot or two in our quest lineups anyway.

We don't need to choose between treating him as an A-Tier combatant that we use for literally everything or sticking him in Bueno Nacho all day.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Lord Ultimus on Nov 4, 2020 at 11:02 AM, finished with 265 posts and 61 votes.
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[X] Tom
[X] Ghengis Khan
[X] Lizzy

Janna is in serious trouble, that means it's time to send in our A-Team. This is not something we're taking any chances on so we need the best.
 
I understand people want Khan available for other national actions, but given there seems to be effectively a WAR going on in New York City complete with people slinging missiles you'd think this would be the perfect thing to send Khan to resolve.

EDIT: I still don't get why we're sending Tom, doesn't Kitsune already have the Occult stat covered decently?
 
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