It's very unlikely that she will attack him unprovoked. She did not hate him, just was afraid of him. Since we are working on his side it should not be problem more than her general disdain for open fighting. Still she is useful for covering our activities with her illusions. World have enough revelations for now, no need to add existence of demons and witches to it. In the end it's no more problem than Lizzie diplomacy, or Hego trait.Yeah, there is bad history there.
She also more or less explicitly dislikes open fighting, as mentioned in her character sheet.
Martial: 17 (Kitsune can fight with her true form and bombs, but prefers not to.)
Now, Kitsune is somewhat fond of Janna and that may offset her dislike of fighting, but I am just about sure that it will not offset sending her to a hot zone in a place she knows to be the stomping grounds of somebody who apparently terrifies her.
Worst case scenario here is that she runs into Puck and Kitsune attacks him, ruining our relationship with Xanatos, while Kitsune suffers a major loyalty malus and simply decides to walk away. Considering the AU thing with Janna and the Toffee deal, I think that sending her in a collision course with Owen may mean simply losing Kitsune.
Less negative scenarios exist, but I don't see this leading anywhere but a major loyalty impact with Kitsune at the very least.
It strikes me as a very bad choice.
We also agreed to not break the masquerade, only for Xanay to pull this stunt. So while I'm inclined to agree about not wanting to do supervillainy, I do rather wish to express our irritation towards Xanatos. Preferably in the most petty, ridiculous, Doofenshmirtz way possible. Possibly using an inator.
Well shit! You're right! New York is traditional for superheroism! It's Marvel Comics New York AND DC's Metropolis and Gotham AT THE SAME TIME!
Genius.
Yeah, there is bad history there.
She also more or less explicitly dislikes open fighting, as mentioned in her character sheet.
Martial: 17 (Kitsune can fight with her true form and bombs, but prefers not to.)
Now, Kitsune is somewhat fond of Janna and that may offset her dislike of fighting, but I am just about sure that it will not offset sending her to a hot zone in a place she knows to be the stomping grounds of somebody who apparently terrifies her.
Worst case scenario here is that she runs into Puck and Kitsune attacks him, ruining our relationship with Xanatos, while Kitsune suffers a major loyalty malus and simply decides to walk away. Considering the AU thing with Janna and the Toffee deal, I think that sending her in a collision course with Owen may mean simply losing Kitsune.
Less negative scenarios exist, but I don't see this leading anywhere but a major loyalty impact with Kitsune at the very least.
It strikes me as a very bad choice.
To be fair, this vote isn't "who do we send to the battle." It's, "who was retroactively already in New York at the time of the battle." The distinction there makes any fighting that coincidentally happens there defensive in nature, rather than Doof intentionally sending certain people to New York to fight.
I feel like you guys are making a bit too big a deal about Kitsune's reaction to Illusion-Puck. Yes, she was scared, but more in a "this person could kill me in a blink of the eye' sense rather than anything personal. And besides, the end result of that scene was her deciding "Screw running away, I'll hit you with everything I've got!"
The rewards listed for that interlude even directly point that out:
That experience made her braver, not more cowardly.
I believe that the path towards furthering her character development is putting her in more situations like that, where she genuinely has to buckle down and go Plus Ultra instead of just running away like she's always done. And the best way to do so is having her fight for something she cares about, which right now is Janna. So in the service of hopefully furthering her character development, I support her going on this trip.
Why? Kitsune is scared of Puck? We have confirmation from the end of her interlude that she is more willing to stick her neck out and she did that bu setting the wards on "him". I don't think that's going to be as much of a problem as you think it is.[X] Tom
[X] Lizzy
[X] Hego
Not really the characters I'd want to use, but currently the best shot at keeping the very bad no good idea that is sending Kitsune out of the team.
Him doing so bad in the Wasteland started with him refusing to consider that he's anything other than the protagonist of a golden age superhero comic. Boldly confronting an evildoer rather than hiding, for example, and then scolding him for drug use. That's not because we've been coddling him, that's just who he is, and neither the narrative nor the people we've got in New York need someone nobody really knows getting the genre wrong that way. Janna's combat spells tend towards the absurdly lethal and Tom fights with literal hellfire, and neither of them deserve to have Hego moralizing at them about that, especially when they just found their friend and are busy fighting for their lives.You guys realize the entire reason Hego sucks is because we never actually let him go out and do things? Him doing so bad in the wasteland is entirely our fault because we won't stop babying him and trying to let others shine instead. We need to actually let him do things or he will always suck.
To be fair, this vote isn't "who do we send to the battle." It's, "who was retroactively already in New York at the time of the battle." The distinction there makes any fighting that coincidentally happens there defensive in nature, rather than Doof intentionally sending certain people to New York to fight.
I feel like you guys are making a bit too big a deal about Kitsune's reaction to Illusion-Puck. Yes, she was scared, but more in a "this person could kill me in a blink of the eye' sense rather than anything personal. And besides, the end result of that scene was her deciding "Screw running away, I'll hit you with everything I've got!"
It's very unlikely that she will attack him unprovoked. She did not hate him, just was afraid of him. Since we are working on his side it should not be problem more than her general disdain for open fighting. Still she is useful for covering our activities with her illusions. World have enough revelations for now, no need to add existence of demons and witches to it. In the end it's no more problem than Lizzie diplomacy, or Hego trait.
Additionally, Puck!Janna *startled* Kitsune and sent her into "Territorial Defense Mode", while here the same won´t exactly apply.
And even then she now got friends/allies with her in the form of whomever else aside from Janna we retroactively sent on this DEI striketeam, meaning that she won´t have as much reason to feel cornered and outgunned.
On top of all this: NYC is a *big* city and seems to be under attack as a whole right now - meaning that as one of Davids heavy-hitters, Puck will probably be occupied with defending main XanatosCorp hildings like the HQ and wherever Little Alexander has maybe been tucked away securely by his Daddy.
See, you can say that, but he was "going out and doing thing" in the past and it didn't knock the stupid out of him. So it's kind of... iffy, and he's a high-value individual where we worry what happens if he gets in over his head and dies.You guys realize the entire reason Hego sucks is because we never actually let him go out and do things? Him doing so bad in the wasteland is entirely our fault because we won't stop babying him and trying to let others shine instead. We need to actually let him do things or he will always suck.
That was a VERY recent development, dude. Like, literally last turn- and last turn we SENT him on a quest and nothing happened!
I mean.I'm not budging on Tom or Kitsune. They're both narratively relevant and they round out most of the stats. Lizzy I'm slightly less happy with but I can live with it.
Re: Hego. In any other circumstance I'd be fine with bringing him, but if there's any situation glory daze is going to proc, it's going to be the middle of a literal war zone, and I don't want to use this as a play test ground
Demona checks those boxes, and if she somehow isn't here then it's something at least as bad if not worse.The problem Hego has is with enemies who are ruthlessly pragmatic