- Location
- Somewhere nearby.
Narratively speaking, I don't know who's more powerful. Numerically speaking, he has 15 to Janna's 13, and that's all Feldrake's trait should care about.I think that going by their respective DVV characterizations, Tobe is not more evil than Janna. He has momentarily acquired more personal power than Janna necessarily possesses, but it's hard to be sure of that without seeing what Janna can do without the staff.
Right now, he does, but they both have interludes this turn and we haven't seen Janna's yet, cuz its probably at the end.Narratively speaking, I don't know who's more powerful. Numerically speaking, he has 15 to Janna's 13, and that's all Feldrake's trait should care about.
I don't know why we're perpetuating this discussion, we're both in agreement (and nobody else has suggested otherwise) that Feldrake should stay with Janna.
I want to tell at least Xanatos. The guy is basically omniscient when it comes to Intrigue. If anyone finds out about this thing, he will. He's not gonna appreciate us not warning him about it, and I'd rather not have him for an enemy. If he tells anyone else, that's his business. I don't want to lose our partnership over something that may happenI'm definitely in the camp of not warning anyone and letting what happens happen.
I just think people are taking the inator way to seriously. Let people succeed and fail on their own terms. Just to the extreme is all.
This is a cursed image. You forgot to add 'Porn With Plot', 'Bondage', and 'Improper Use of Inators'.Ghosts by C-Moon69
Fandoms: Phineas and Ferb, Gargoyles, Star Vs, Disney Afternoon, Tron, Incredibles, Roger Rabbit, Kim Possible, Stich, House of Mouse, Pucca, Meet the Robinsons, Bg Hero 6, Alpha Teens on Machines, The 7D
Mature
Choose Not To Use Archive Warnings
M/M
Completed
23 Oct 2020
Tags
No Archive Warnings Apply, Dr Doofenshmirtz, David Xanatos, Janna, Max, Owen/Puck, Goofy, Mirage, Major Monogram, Tom Lucifer, Marco Diaz, Everyone else, Everyone else can see it but them, Doofenshmirtz/Xanatos, side Tom/Marco, Reminiscing, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Alternate Universe - Crossover, pining, lost loves, hurt/comfort, Business Partners to lovers, Explicit Sexual Content, Praise Kink
Summary: As Halloween ends, Doofenshmirtz's attempts to resurrect Xanatos' wife are a failure. Now Xanatos broods on lost love, while Doofenshmirtz hates being able to not help those he loves the most. Their own pride leaves them alone, but Doofenshmirtz Evil. Inc doesn't plan to let their boss stay unhappy.
This is a cursed image. You forgot to add 'Porn With Plot', 'Bondage', and 'Improper Use of Inators'.
Okay, we have got to stop thinking like this. Nobody warns us of incoming stuff. Nobody sends us an FYI about their projects that could affect us. Xanatos has a lot of things going on that almost certainly affects us and that he's not seen fit to divulge for our convenience. We don't owe him anything, and he's not about to get pissy we didn't give him a freebie.I want to tell at least Xanatos. The guy is basically omniscient when it comes to Intrigue. If anyone finds out about this thing, he will. He's not gonna appreciate us not warning him about it, and I'd rather not have him for an enemy. If he tells anyone else, that's his business. I don't want to lose our partnership over something that may happen
Uh, thats like, straight up not true. Our first interactions with Xanatos were him letting us know about this auction thing that was happeningOkay, we have got to stop thinking like this. Nobody warns us of incoming stuff. Nobody sends us an FYI about their projects that could affect us. Xanatos has a lot of things going on that almost certainly affects us and that he's not seen fit to divulge for our convenience. We don't owe him anything, and he's not about to get pissy we didn't give him a freebie.
This. This right here. Thank you.Uh, thats like, straight up not true. Our first interactions with Xanatos were him letting us know about this auction thing that was happening
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I sort of agree with the not a common practice thing. I don't even think we should do it because it opens up avenues with them. I just think doof is the kind of guy to think hes actually close enough to xanatos and shego that he should tell them just because he respects them/thinks of them as friendsOkay, we have got to stop thinking like this. Nobody warns us of incoming stuff. Nobody sends us an FYI about their projects that could affect us. Xanatos has a lot of things going on that almost certainly affects us and that he's not seen fit to divulge for our convenience. We don't owe him anything, and he's not about to get pissy we didn't give him a freebie.
Now, if we want to start this free exchange of information? Sure, we could take the first step, offer them info for free and hope they reciprocate. Even if they don't, I won't mind having tried it.
But let's dispel the notion that this is something that, in our position, they'd do the same for us, or that they have a right to be pissed about it. It's not the common practice of Kings to actually aid each other beyond the mutually beneficial.
Well
It might not be in the same canon
But I have an excuse
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Stats
Martial: 7 (Sunset has been in her fair share of fights and then some ... but has basically zero experience in doing battle without her arcane abilities, beyond spurts of bullying in her new-ish human form. This has been remedied somewhat by leading her own team of magical girls, but even then...)
Diplomacy: 40 ("Take my hand ... let me show you there's another way. Just like someone once did for me.")
Stewardship: 10 (She has no special talent for it, but Sunset did study directly under Princess Celestia, millennium-reigning monarch of an entire kingdom. Miss Shimmer's achieved competence, if only by observation.)
Intrigue: 18 (Sunset Shimmer managed to manipulate an entire high school, including its staff, into dancing on her strings for multiple years. This puppeteering despite the fact that she'd recently changed species, and was from a different world entirely.)
Learning: 5 (Y'know, as much as Sunset is a spellcasting prodigy? As much as magic is a science on her home world? Yeah, the idea of attempting to conquer an entire magical kingdom with a single town's worth of hypnotized unmagical teenagers sure seems like the kind of plan someone who's been in high school for nearly a decade would come up with.)
Occult: 26 (Beyond her natural unicorn-born abilities, Sunset has also dedicated two very different lives to the study of two very different kinds of magic. That's not even including that she's the chosen carrier of a very potent magical artifact!)
Traits
Friendship = Magic: Where Sunset Shimmer comes from, emotional understanding is the cornerstone of arcane ability - and she carries that magic with her wherever she goes. While on Quests, Sunset Shimmer adds half of her Diplomacy to all Occult checks, and half of her Occult to all Diplomacy checks.
Touch of Empathy: Friendship - any relationship, really - is a matter of communication. You can't expect the other person to be a mind reader just because they're your friend! ... unless they're Sunset Shimmer, who can actually read minds with the power of friendship. Sunset receives a +15 boost to Intrigue rolls to find out a person's secrets, but only if she is able to physically touch that person.
Semi-Phenomenal, Nearly-Cosmic: This unit may use their Occult score in place of their Martial score when in combat.
Loyalty: 20
Evil Benefits: +5
Enough Horsing Around: +15 (A trip to Technor has forced Sunset to stand on her own two feet against the feelings she's been repressing. Whichever world she ends up calling home, she knows she'll always have a place at DEI.)
Known Preferences
My Past is Not Today: Sunset was once an equine - was once a snooty little self-absorbed student - was once a bully - was once an attempted conquerer of a faraway magical kingdom. But now, she is a new person, making a solid (if not perfect) attempt at redemption. Sunset will not undertake national actions she sees as being "backsliding".
My Friends are My Power!: Sunset Shimmer likes making friends, and making her friends happy!
...and also, thank you so much for the Omake. I'm honored, and pleased as pony punch besides.![]()
I bet this is because there was no "Get married for political clout" option early on like most CK2 quests. It lets the chat get the shipping wars out early in a quest rather than having it fester and mutate into something EVIL@Made in Heaven. Post something. Anything to distract them from this current line of thought. Please.
Right. As a test. As a means of gathering information on a potential-ally potential-threat. Not out of the niceness of his heart.Uh, thats like, straight up not true. Our first interactions with Xanatos were him letting us know about this auction thing that was happening
David Xanatos watched the security monitors in his dining room as Dr. Doofenshmirtz's designated diplomat, one of the most famous Toons in the world, and Head Janitor of DEI got into the elevator and started the very long ascent to the top. Seeing the various bits of paraphernalia Goofy was carrying allowed him to formulate a conclusion to his previous hypothesis. Danville's resident 'pharmacist' definitely knew of the existence of the supernatural, he was more informed than Xanatos thought, and he was very clearly broadcasting to Xanatos that he knew. The existence of the Magus Bazaar was a fairly well-kept secret among the magical community, and to see Goofy walk into his building arms quite literally piled high with magical Tchotchkes suggested that he was flaunting his knowledge. He kept open the theoretical explanations that allowed for Goofy, as a Toon, simply stumbling onto the place. That was within the realm of the plausible. Coupled with the incident at the Gala however, this was starting to feel like an active message.
"Owen? Pencil me in for the next auction at the Magus Bazaar and be sure to send Dr. Doofenshmirtz an invitation as well."
"Of course, Mr. Xanatos. You have considered the possibility that this is all one massive coincidence, I hope?"
"Naturally. I'm well aware of the odd accidents that happen to occur around Toons, particularly one as well-known as Goofy. I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't know about it before this morning. But coupled with what we spoke about at the Gala, Doofenshmirtz is either sending a message or has gotten very lucky. And if it is luck, then it would be best to manage how he enters the magical community."
Actually, all evidence points to canon Doof being a jerk, but not evil. He's incredibly petty and vindictive, but not really mean-spirited.In regards to the current avenue of discussion, allow me to reiterate a point I've made a couple times before.
We're evil, not a jerk.
Mr. Death is going to earn some overtime tonightDay 1372. It's gotten worse than the Discord trying to dissect Bill's words.
Somehow, My Little Pony has leaked into the timestreams. And not even the normal stuff - Equestria Girls.
In addition, the thread has lept off the normal train of shipping Doof and Shego, an image we could live with...
In favor of shipping Xanatos and Doof.
In the background, the common debates rage on, although somewhere the Among Us beans snuck in.
The super-glue is slipping. The duct-tape tearing.
Nobody will survive the night.
It was either Mr. Death or Discworld Death.
This is the proudest I've been since I got my school's newspaper censored.In addition, the thread has lept off the normal train of shipping Doof and Shego, an image we could live with...
In favor of shipping Xanatos and Doof.