This is currently our only custom heroball option. There might be equivalents for each stat, but those are probably a long way off.[ ] Form a black ops group
DC 90, four capes required
Sometimes you need to be a little more subtle than a group of armored goons marching down the street, and for that, you need superpowers. Or technology so advanced it comes off like superpowers, you're not one of those power/anti-power bigots. Recruit a couple noteworthy individuals and stick them together on a team, then go ahead and make sure they actually get along!
In this instance, "cape" refers to anyone of a heroic or villainous leaning who isn't afraid of going out and getting some field work done, making judgements on the fly, or possibly getting their hands dirty. Hego would be considered a cape, while Norm would not.
(Reward: Black Ops Team established, Team will function as a Hero Unit with better stats than any single hero; can use team to undertake special actions)
Do we have a list of legal inators?Because they are so op, they have ruled out. Seriously, if Doof wasn't nerfed because of those inators he would be one of the most dangerous kings. Some of them could quite easily wipe out continents if he could use them.
Thus, for balance Doof has been nerfed.
No. They all violate the laws of physics.
The problem is that most of these units don't really synergize. Hego doesn't pair well with most of the group, nor does Lizzie, even though she'd be great for a heroball. Kitsune needs to be used in other areas etc
- Hego: High martial, ok stewardship, crippling traits. He's got experience leading a team, and practical fighters like Lizzie or Kitsune should mitigate his malus. Flavor-wise, brings super strength and managerial experience to the team
- Dennis: ok martial, fantastic traits. He's got enough personal development actions with the sandwich, the scrolls, and kung fool to be worth keeping independent. Favor-wise, brings toonforce based combat.
- Lizzie: High martial and learning, ok intrigue. Brings practicality, power, and learning to the team. We have so many learning heroes we can afford to lose her action. Flavor-wise brings a ton of cyborg ants and her own intelligence.
- Wile E: Good to ok in all stats but occult, with strong if unpredictable traits. Costs us a versatile quest leader and early access dummy in exchange for more well rounded stats. Flavor-wise brings the power and versatility of a violent toon
- Kitsune: Great intrigue, diplomacy, and occult, ok martial, bad traits. As a generalist, the team becomes more of a buff for her than anything. We don't know how goblin fox will affect the team, but I'd guess a stat penalty every other turn without violence. Flavor-wise brings magic, illusions, cunning, and a monstrous form.
- Tobe: Great intrigue, ok martial and occult, good traits. Technically brings 4 named characters and a bunch of mooks. He's still got enough personal development left via scrolls, ninja training, and romance that he's not a good fit for the team. Flavor-wise brings bumbling ninjas and some basic magic.
- Juniper: Bad stats, but her team-up focus and dance magic buffs might compensate. Does she generate her own power? if so she's better off buffing TECHNOR. No idea what she'll be like flavor-wise.
- Dynatron City Heroes: If we use Mirage's gatcha recruitment we'll probably pick up some of these. Not great, but ok if we need some filler for a 4th member.
No. No it does not.
I have shared this in the past.Discord said:MrHobbit1234: We do have four capes
Blueberrypanda: 80 or higher with max exp
MrHobbit1234: Wait, let me recheck
Clockworkchaos: Hego, Technor, and LIzzy are probably definatly
MrHobbit1234: 3
C-Moon: Correct.
Clockworkchaos: Khan and Tobe are no's then?
Blueberrypanda:i mean i could see janna fitting
would be worried about assigning people we might want doing their own thing though
MrHobbit1234: Khan could become a cape if his Atomic Genes thing reveals stuff in the future
C-Moon: You could probably make an argument for Khan or Tobe, given that Khan has atomic genes.
MrHobbit1234: maybe
C-Moon: Think about synergy with the group, though.
Fair point, but aside from a pre-packaged heroball like the BH6 any hero with enough synergy is either worth more independent like TECHNOR or Von Drake, or not good enough to justify an action to recruit.The problem is that most of these units don't really synergize. Hego doesn't pair well with most of the group, nor does Lizzie, even though she'd be great for a heroball. Kitsune needs to be used in other areas etc
Dennis I can almost understand, but are Wile E and Kistune really not 'cape' material?
If Genghis Khan with his Captain Doofania trait can only be argued to be a cape, then they are absolutely not cape material.Dennis I can almost understand, but are Wile E and Kistune really not 'cape' material?
We are not sure whether he wants to be a hero, doesn't but could be convinced under the right circumstances (eg getting the gang back together), or fully does not. If the last is the case, I'll be rather dissapointed, but I'd also rather know now before start sinking diplo actions into recruiting BH6.Anyone else notice that Wasabi's Hero Card only refers to him being a plasma specialist and not as a super hero?
Are we sure he even wants to get back into being a hero?
Well, one of the QM's Gremlins, Aranthorn, did give us Not-Quite-Word-Of-God that BH6 is a valid Heroball here. He actually had to get permission to say it, so even if he's hesitant, if we get enough BH6, we'll be able to Do The Thing(TM).We are not sure whether he wants to be a hero, doesn't but could be convinced under the right circumstances (eg getting the gang back together), or fully does not. If the last is the case, I'll be rather dissapointed, but I'd also rather know now before start sinking diplo actions into recruiting BH6.
We are not sure whether he wants to be a hero, doesn't but could be convinced under the right circumstances (eg getting the gang back together), or fully does not. If the last is the case, I'll be rather dissapointed, but I'd also rather know now before start sinking diplo actions into recruiting BH6.
Well, one of the QM's Gremlins, Aranthorn, did give us Not-Quite-Word-Of-God that BH6 is a valid Heroball here. He actually had to get permission to say it, so even if he's hesitant, if we get enough BH6, we'll be able to Do The Thing(TM).
Yeah. If I didn't suspect we could form a BH6 Heroball, I wouldn't be lobbying nearly this hard to recruit Wasabi; he seems like an excellent hero unit in general, but we do have both a lot of those and a lot of diplo actions we want to take, so my logic for supporting him rests on that very heroball. I only refrained from voting him last time over Alan because Alan was in first and I didn't want to risk Wasabi edging out Roddy Blair and putting off Doofhawk yet more. However, that's not the same thing as knowing we can do it.Personally, I think it should be possible, I mean, literally one of the QMs mentioned that one of the advantages of Wasabi was that he was 1/6th of a premade and proven synergistic Hero team, so I doubt they'd said that if rebuilding BH6 was impossible.
No. My question is "should we grow a beard of evil?"Vanessa and Heinz Doofenshmirtz.
Some of you may ask "Why? Why would you do this? Why did you do this?"
And that is a question you may ask.
Anyone else notice that Wasabi's Hero Card only refers to him being a plasma specialist and not as a super hero?
Are we sure he even wants to get back into being a hero?
Doof doesn't know IC about Wasabi's superhero activities and Wasabi isn't going to just tell us when we hire him to do research.We are not sure whether he wants to be a hero, doesn't but could be convinced under the right circumstances (eg getting the gang back together), or fully does not. If the last is the case, I'll be rather dissapointed, but I'd also rather know now before start sinking diplo actions into recruiting BH6.
No, but hiring people (and increasing their loyalty, and chatting with the boss man, etc) is how we unveil preferences.Doof doesn't know IC about Wasabi's superhero activities and Wasabi isn't going to just tell us when we hire him to do research.
Even if he absolutely loves working for DEI why would he tell us about his superhero gig? We're aren't his fiance. We are his employer and his personal secrets aren't really relevant to the job of researching stuff. We'd need to actually recruit other members of BH6 in a martial role before it becomes relevant.No, but hiring people (and increasing their loyalty, and chatting with the boss man, etc) is how we unveil preferences.
Even if he absolutely loves working for DEI why would he tell us about his superhero gig? We're aren't his fiance. We are his employer and his personal secrets aren't really relevant to the job of researching stuff. We'd need to actually recruit other members of BH6 in a martial role before it becomes relevant.
Form BH6 with one member? Nahhhh no way who would ever do that (Pushes an image of a maddened Hiro making robotic versions of the other members to the side)This seems like pure speculation, sure it may go that way, it may also be that Wasabi actually would love to form back BH6.
In any case though, yes, we'll need to recruit other members of BH6 if we want to rebuild the team, I thought that was obvious.