- Location
- The Netherlands
yes, but not easely is still better than unable for the Amulet. since the amulet is unique and the encantus isn't
DoofQuest- a Disney Villains Victorious CK2-Style Quest
- Thread starter Made in Heaven
- Start date
- Crossover
Light
A world without Light would be Dark.
- Location
- United States
I think we should have Temujin learn more stuff in general before learning Ki.
DragonGrimoire
Half Dragon, Half Cat, Half Spellbook, All Cute
- Location
- On Your Lap, Sleeping
- Pronouns
- She/Her/Hers
i mean, we already resurrected Genghis Khan via DNA bullshit. Pretty sure No Ressurections means "nobody who dies during the quest comes back to life". Or we could get an alternate Perry, or Perry could have been not-actually-killed by the inator. plenty of options. Or we put his soul into some sort of Jumba-Made platybomination. or we could base Experiment 6whatever'snext (630 if Leroy is canon) on his DNA. plenty of non-ressurection options, but i don't think we'll be getting Perry back, as interesting as it would be.
- Location
- The Netherlands
nope. Ghengis is a unique case and it will not happen for anyone else ever
- Location
- Pindorama
[X] Plan No Risk, No Reward (Morgana edition)
Sure, don't care much about the Talisman. That people only feel safe with a 250% bid of the minimum really bothers me.
Sure, don't care much about the Talisman. That people only feel safe with a 250% bid of the minimum really bothers me.
DragonGrimoire
Half Dragon, Half Cat, Half Spellbook, All Cute
- Location
- On Your Lap, Sleeping
- Pronouns
- She/Her/Hers
Eh, whatever. Never expected people to actually take that sort of thing seriously, given his death is a pretty big deal for us. Undoing it would be bad, and is omake-only territory, but it's fun to think about how it would be done.
- Location
- The Netherlands
the big thing is. i don't think 10 will cut it due to multiple people not having bid on anything yet and our flubbed intrigue roll. and if we want to spend more than 10 we can't bid on anything else anyway due to minimum bid being 7.
i do not think 10 would cut it therefore we can spend all of it on it due to not being able to use the remaining say 6 on any other item
DragonGrimoire
Half Dragon, Half Cat, Half Spellbook, All Cute
- Location
- On Your Lap, Sleeping
- Pronouns
- She/Her/Hers
going all in is very neccesary because we have approximately zero chance of getting more than one of these items with our current funds.
- Location
- washington
I think it would still come down to a roll just with a very low chance of getting anything if we tried. Especially as round 3 is the one at least some have waited for to the exclusivity of everything else.
- Location
- Pindorama
I really wish I didn't become intimidated by the Talisman lead and made a Morganian 7/Manual 10 bid vote last night; people really don't seem to think we can get a Talisman with a 10 bid. And in retrospect I should have put a 6/6/4 split in my plan last round.
But given how we didn't lose a single bid due to being outspent last round, I think the surety everyone has about absolutely needing to dump 17 on whatever we want to be really weird. Literally no-one has displayed that level of profligate spending so far. This a blind auction, and 17 is about 242% of the original bid; it's absolute overkill. 200% of any bid should be overkill, frankly, and we are going significantly past that. I do think it is worth betting "just" 10 here, and it's crazy that it's not considered enough.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Well, at the moment it is to our advantage to help her by busting Kat, so that's something?
Remember that Felldrake does have ambitions of his own. Talismans that let him move and be animate while in staff form would make him a lot more independent, and I'm not sure we should trust him in that respect.
The people who haven't spent any money are not necessarily spending only on the talisman, precisely because it is far from the only valuable item on offer.
If we're bidding seventeen points on the talisman, I'd say we have a much better than 'nothing' chance.
"No Risk, No Reward" bids the bare minimum on the Morganian Encantus. If anyone wants to bid on it, we have a 50% chance. If anyone wants to bid 'plus one-' and there are plenty of participants with money to burn in the last round- then we lose.
Meanwhile, if anyone really wants the talisman, "No Risk, No Reward" gives us only a modest chance of getting it.
- Location
- California
Well Von drake would be best if we were to transcribe them for Xanatos, but if we can't then I'd suggest Hego and Jumba. Hego's our(at least) second best superhero and greatest link to shego, so making h better at his job would be a good twofer.
Jumba on the other hand canonically learned to make chi-empowered experiments via scrolls in Stitch and Ai, which sounds fun as hell!
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- Location
- The Netherlands
yes. but there are 3 people who have not spent anything on the auction this far. this means they can bid very high. (ie 10 or over) on what they want.
that is the reason i want to spend over 10 on the talisman. spending over 10 on the talisman means we cannot spend anything on something else due to minimum bid being 7. so therefore we may aswell go all in on the thing we want so we absolutely get it.
We cannot. Felldrake in the original continuity he's from is EVIL. Like, real evil, not our version. Sure, he's quirky, but, well, so is Bill. We can use him because he's stuck in the staff, but, if he gets his body back, he's actually quite the threat.
- Location
- Minnesota
[X] Plan: Expert Advice
HOW DARE YOU IMPLY WE ARE NOT REALLY EVIL?!!!
(Seriously,don't do that.It hurts Doof's feelings.And when our feelings are hurt,we punish the hurter.)
The problem is the math. We have 17 points. A 10 bid has a good chance of getting us the talisman, but, if we bet that, then we can only bet the minimum on the Enchantus, which almost-certainly won't be enough. So, best to just dump it all.
- Location
- Pindorama
I don't know why we can't bid the minimum on an item nearly no one else is interested in. Even Owen is likely interested in the Merlinian copy for Xanatos' son. No one else is going for it. If there's anything we can be with the minimum, it's the Morganian Encantus.
- Location
- washington
He did say hes probably gonna wait a few thousand years to try and conquer anything as the timeline and the world as a whole is so messed up. Also he sort of likes janna. While I'm sure he'd betray us if an opportunity presented itself it would have to be a good one. He'd probably just chill in our headquarters demanding tithes and drinks and massage chairs for a while rather than betraying us from what I've seen waiting for the world to chill out for his future conquests.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
Okay, regarding the Tempest Domain, actually gonna get into the nitty-gritty of realpolitik diplomatic relations here. Anyone who doesn't want to read complex political analysis of diplomacy between cartoon characters in an internet forum quest can just skip this post.
So, if we, Heinz Doofenschmirtz, Supreme Ruler of Doofania, reach out to the government of the United States of America offering to help broker a peace treaty between them and Drossel Juno Vierzehntes Heizregister Fürstin von Flügel, Duchess of the Tempest Domain, we benefit in the following ways: The Tempest Domain is a Sovereign Power within the territory that formerly belonged to the United States, just like Doofania. However, unlike Doofania, they lack the firepower to forcibly bring it back into the fold, and they know it. By getting the United States to recognize them as independent, it opens precedent for Doofania to be recognized as the same, particularly since, by offering to help broker a treaty between two sovereign powers, we implicate Doofania as being of equal standing to these two parties. If the US of A accepts this deal, it gives us a lot of legitimacy.
However, they can't afford to pass on it, because otherwise they get completely cut out of the communications between us and the Tempest Domain, and that could be disastrous for them. Worse, they can't even spy on our transmissions because they don't understand the language being spoken (and we should take care it remains so, leave any documents we keep of the Tempest Domain in their original language, not english). Also, by refusing the peace treaty, they might very well offend the Tempest Domain. So they need to come to the table, but that doesn't mean they have to take the deal as offered.
I can see them counter-offering to name us as a diplomatic envoy to the Tempest Domain. This lacks the strenght of them recognizing our status as a foreign power, but it still gives us legitimacy on our position in the Tri-State Area, as well as forging an unstable peace with the government: they can't come after us, because if they do the Tempest Domain could intervene in the name of "Doofanian freedom", which would be terrible for them politically, but we also sort-of compromise to not rock the boat too much or it'll force their hands anyways. Of course, during all of that time they'll be working around the clock to decipher the language we use to communicate with Drossel, and with us having already translated it it'd be considerably easier (possibly even within the government's ability) to decipher. However, the DEI headquarters physical and magical security is already insane, and as soon as our AIs come online on the cyberfront we'll be basically impregnable. That will pretty much start a race against the clock, and once enough time elapse either they'll continue trying to beat us or they'll resign themselves to working with us.
Besides, the current "heir apparent" of Doofania, Vanessa, wants nothing to do with all this nonsense and would like nothing better than to go back to normalcy, so the U.S. can probably afford to wait us out. However, if we recognize Norm and Princess Coffee Java as progeny, not to mention Genghis Khan technically being in the succession line, and the Tempest Domain also being ruled by immortal robots, the US might lose a little certainty on its idea of running out the clock on us.
So, if we, Heinz Doofenschmirtz, Supreme Ruler of Doofania, reach out to the government of the United States of America offering to help broker a peace treaty between them and Drossel Juno Vierzehntes Heizregister Fürstin von Flügel, Duchess of the Tempest Domain, we benefit in the following ways: The Tempest Domain is a Sovereign Power within the territory that formerly belonged to the United States, just like Doofania. However, unlike Doofania, they lack the firepower to forcibly bring it back into the fold, and they know it. By getting the United States to recognize them as independent, it opens precedent for Doofania to be recognized as the same, particularly since, by offering to help broker a treaty between two sovereign powers, we implicate Doofania as being of equal standing to these two parties. If the US of A accepts this deal, it gives us a lot of legitimacy.
However, they can't afford to pass on it, because otherwise they get completely cut out of the communications between us and the Tempest Domain, and that could be disastrous for them. Worse, they can't even spy on our transmissions because they don't understand the language being spoken (and we should take care it remains so, leave any documents we keep of the Tempest Domain in their original language, not english). Also, by refusing the peace treaty, they might very well offend the Tempest Domain. So they need to come to the table, but that doesn't mean they have to take the deal as offered.
I can see them counter-offering to name us as a diplomatic envoy to the Tempest Domain. This lacks the strenght of them recognizing our status as a foreign power, but it still gives us legitimacy on our position in the Tri-State Area, as well as forging an unstable peace with the government: they can't come after us, because if they do the Tempest Domain could intervene in the name of "Doofanian freedom", which would be terrible for them politically, but we also sort-of compromise to not rock the boat too much or it'll force their hands anyways. Of course, during all of that time they'll be working around the clock to decipher the language we use to communicate with Drossel, and with us having already translated it it'd be considerably easier (possibly even within the government's ability) to decipher. However, the DEI headquarters physical and magical security is already insane, and as soon as our AIs come online on the cyberfront we'll be basically impregnable. That will pretty much start a race against the clock, and once enough time elapse either they'll continue trying to beat us or they'll resign themselves to working with us.
Besides, the current "heir apparent" of Doofania, Vanessa, wants nothing to do with all this nonsense and would like nothing better than to go back to normalcy, so the U.S. can probably afford to wait us out. However, if we recognize Norm and Princess Coffee Java as progeny, not to mention Genghis Khan technically being in the succession line, and the Tempest Domain also being ruled by immortal robots, the US might lose a little certainty on its idea of running out the clock on us.
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Just give him a parallel universe to rule,problem solved.
Maybe THAT's how we crossover with the MCU!
It would be an improvement.
- Location
- California
YEAH! What, was the 1/2 to 4 years we opposed perry not enough for you? How about the time we insulted the mac and cheese recipe of a whale? Or the time we tried to freeze people's hotdog water! Or the Bake Sale Obliterationator!?
- Location
- Earth
[X] Plan No Risk, No Reward (Morgana edition)
Not likely to win at this point but I really want an encantus.
Not likely to win at this point but I really want an encantus.
