The human body is very close to the density of water so 1 kg/L, so a 150L person would be morbidly obese even if they are a 2m high giant.
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Tetra is just trying her best to be helpful while surrounded by people who are constantly improving, she doesn't want to be a burden by becoming obsolete. I feel like it's easier to empathize with that when you realize that Tetra is basically the youngest daughter of the group, and everyone around her has a role, she used to but now she doesn't.
Tybalt meanwhile isn't actually stronger than Joe, but in terms of raw power compared to what Joe carries on him (which he's probably going to upgrade at somepoint, it was outdated and underpowered before the ungodly hour, and he definitely wouldn't have been as bad as it was if Joe had any level of prep time.) Tybalt beats him out. Of course, Tybalt hasn't got any real counter to Joe dropping a Gigahypersuper bomb on him, or drowning him in mastercrafted magical robots, or making demigod slaying swords, or any number of incredibly potent things Joe can build with like an hour of prep time at most.
Amen brother.
So it's been a few years since I read Percy Jackson and I never read the new ones with the Egyptian gods or whatever, but wasn't one of the powers that daughter of Area's had that she could summon a boat crewed by Confeterate ghost soldiers because all the losing side of a war were doomed to serve Area's in death as punishment for losing a war.
Cause that would basically make Tybalt the farie queen on steroids.
Cause that would basically make Tybalt the farie queen on steroids.
Yeah your framing helped me quite a bit, thanks for adding that perspective! I went back and can see where that was kinda fleshed out, I can admit to a bit of skimming 🤷🏼♂️. I wonder how she'll pivot.
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That wasn't one of her powers. Ares just did it for her because by losing a war, the soldiers owed a debt to him.
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Honestly, I have a hard time thinking that Tetra could actually be obsoleted now that Joe has everything he does.
Like, a Kamui is already capable of evolving and changing and growing over time, and apparently of containing an arbitrary density of Life Fibers. A Heretically Adapted Named Divine Object Kamui immediately sounds disgustingly OP enough that I don't see a power ceiling for it; Tetra should be able to scale to keep up with whatever she misses, even if it takes canon-typical eleventh-hour power-ups.
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Ok, not going to lie, i love the new addition to the team....wait, if Aisha is Lethe, then Tybalt is going to be Acheron?(Since, you know, 5 rivers of the Underworld? And Child of Ares of all things).
Back on topic, while im loving this, this is dragging way too much. Whenever a new chapter notificarion pops up i think, "Will this finally be the Somers Rock reunion of Villains?"
Can we see the team making every villain survivor in Brockton sweat bullets and shit themselves in fear already?
Back on topic, while im loving this, this is dragging way too much. Whenever a new chapter notificarion pops up i think, "Will this finally be the Somers Rock reunion of Villains?"
Can we see the team making every villain survivor in Brockton sweat bullets and shit themselves in fear already?
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I could've sworn later there was a discussion between survey and Joe about how the architecture of the AI she was using to supplement her neural connection didn't bear the hallmarks of Dragon's design and was likely coopted from someone else.
And yeah as someone else mentioned there's no way he doesn't know that what he was fighting was an ai seeing as he specifically used an ai weapon, and then stopped it from destroying the backup of the Abominable Intelligence.
Edit: To clarify he does not think Dragon herself is an AI, just that she is using one, and possibly enslaved it under the prompting of her master.
Whelp can't find the relevant quotes so maybe it was wog.
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It's from using Liters purely as a volumetric measurement. You get two incredibly different measurements depending on if you use the 1 kg/L measurement, or base it on the person's actual measurements. The 150 Liter one is based on the idea that the mathematically average person is 160x39x23cm. Which, yes, that's the amount of space someone takes up, but humans aren't largely unedited walls of meat. When you remove all the empty spaces, you get around 70 liters, and removing the lung and instestinal gas pockets gets you down about five, and then I assume if you remove the stomach contents that gets you to that about 62 figure you just listed.
So the 150 liters would be the space that a human takes up, meaning that 150 liters of Matrix would be a person sized pillar.
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...oh damn. Acheron is a great choice. Especially the POWER the has. Its honestly an amazing choice.
I hope it gets picked.
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That would be so cool would that mean that the others would be named as the other rivers as well maybe tetra would be named as phlegethon (river of fire)
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I can see it already, Tybalt shows up at Somers Rock in armor and wearing an adorable domino mask.
It's like the joke in Taylor Varga if Raptaur puts on a domino mask and calls herself The Wonder Suzie, how does that work in the unwritten rules?
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From 36 Debrief:
Edit: Looks like I was wrong. Thanks @Knaka.
Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)
It was from 38 Build Up. Right now, Joe is under the impression that Dragon is a living human who has been mastered and might be using an AI for her interface. Also, in WoG, LordR mentioned that Joe does not know that Dragon is an AI. He used the Laboratorium systems against her, but...
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The average humans entire body has the average density of water. With bones being markedly denser and lungs being less dense but if you take body as a whole you wind up with a density approaching that of water. I don't understand your point about intestinal gas pockets (which typical maxes out at about 0.5L) as the density of the faecal material more than makes up for it. The calculations I've seen typical combine faecal material any gases to be very slightly heavier than water, but it has been a while since looked at the stats so I could be wrong.
The 150L idea derived by assuming people are cubes might be suitable for some pharmacokinetic calculations and calculating BMI, but in this instance it just doesn't cut it. A simple dip in your average 300L bathtub should provide ample proof of how inaccurate that average 150L per person figure is.
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Again, I was just saying that 150 comes entirely from the cubic measurement. If you follow the outline instead, you get the slightly higher 70-75 figure you also see if you look it up. By further removing internal empty spaces, you'll get the figure that you've arrived at by just using the density figure that you've used.
All I was trying to say was "Here was their flawed methodology, and here's how to refine that methodology to be more accurate". Your figure is more accurate, but they're both approximations based on abstractions. That's inevitable when dealing with the theoretical Average Person.
Edit: 1condor12 asked "where are they getting that figure". I was explaining where they got that figure and why it was wrong. We aren't disagreeing here. You corrected them, I explained how the mistake was made, in hopes that the mistake would not be made in the future. I probably could have gone about it better, but here we are.
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Ah sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought you were indicating that 150L was an accurate figure.
My figure was based on the average weight for people around the world then converted to L. No need to remove any internal cavities
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Recent WoG on the 150 liters of nanobots:
No one seems to have noticed, but the cat has an alt form from this perk for free.
The problem with that perk for 'game play' balance issues is that the games referenced are Disgaia. Being Disgaia your basically in a power fantasy grant afterlife to get such things out of your system so you can reincarnate without lingering attachments. Item World is completely insane. One of things I recall Disgaia granting you was a 'Base Square/panel' AKA the summonable deployment point. One of the mechanics you get from Item World is the ability to beat up random flaws and then pick them up and throw them into the base square. If you win you get a new minion. One that would possibly count as a companion. Yes many companions or at least mooks that can be respawned. Granted they are also probably completely insane personality wise.
There is a reason I've heard the series described as playing this game almost feels like your cheating.
Then there is the habit of finding monsters/generics from planets and world's you've been to. That sounds a way to get infinity Endbringers of your own. Granted going too deep is a good reason/way to get yourself TPK completely at random. Also in the bottom of everyone legendary grade item is a one grade same type of that item. Like spears get a one better spear type.
Then there is the matter of at level 1000, you get into scale where you really suck if you can't break the planet with a single attack.
Then there is the matter of if time passes while your actually in the item. So you could have the entire forge in a few real world minutes.
Level grinding in Item World would be more interesting than you think... as random insanity keeps happening. Pirate attacks. Walking into random extra areas. Encountering characters from random franchises. This may include a varient of the dreaded ungamed one.
theflyingbiscuit
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Now tell us how you feel only on his merits as opposed to being a kitty.
Unless Glory to Me gives him the power to punch through Apeiron's level of armor before exhausting himself, then all Apeiron has to do is just wear some armor and not get headbutted (I don't think increases weapon power, much less to that extent, but I would not rule it out). Most everything that Tybalt has, Joe has had the time to upgrade his version already or got better options. While he may have stronger demigod ancestry, Tybalt lacks many of the other upgrades that Joe went through, such as aura, which all stacks meaning that I think Joe might actually out stat him (I never actually read Percy Jackson), but not out skill him (arguable considering the number of Joe's martial arts upgrades, but I won't bother).
Except the helmet, all Tybalt's equipment looks mundane (sorta, in a sense, if you squint) so to get anywhere he would need to enhance all his equipment constantly to even hope to get past Joe's armor, while as his own armor is almost all designed for guns except the helmet, and therefore trivially weak against Joe's hypersonic sword barrage, for example.
In short, Tybalt seems to lack the ability to end the fight, has pathetic protection during the fight, might be physically weaker, has the slower movement options, no specific regeneration (barring Percy Jackson stuff), no specific tracking option barring is cat, and lacks the ability to counter many of the crazy things that Apeiron can pull out of his bag of tricky (i.e. pyrokinesis and alchemy).
I leave spiral energy out because he just got it, and lacks a mech to channel it through.
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Honestly, Joe probably would've been blessed if he got this Perk early on. No misunderstandings can be made when you can ensure that you can sure that your activities are judged objectively no matter what.
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I feel like there are plenty of objective criticisms to be made of Joe's actions, especially early on when he wasn't a tiny god. If he knew back then that every bad thing people said about him was an objective judgement of the merit of his actions, I imagine he would have become even more withdrawn.
Oh okay but I'm a bit iffy on that not counting as a power. I mean by that logic does a D&D Cleric not count as a spellcaster?
Either way though Glory to… Me is supposed to give you access to the entirety of your gods portfolio, more then a normal demi-god would get.
Let Slip the Cats of War (theTwitMachine)
Let Slip the Cats of War
The assembled parahumans were tense. Legend watched them joke and boast in nervous bravado as even more arrived by teleporters. He mentally reviewed the speech he had prepared. He never gave the same one twice, even though this happened every three or four months. It had to be inspiring and serious, and different enough that those who attended multiple endbringer battles didn't feel like he was giving the same speech over and over.
The volume of the assembled parahumans dropped as a new arrival walked towards the assembled heroes and villains. Apeiron was here - his armor different than the last public appearance, but Apeiron nonetheless. He stood in stylized greek armor, intricate etchings and sculptural forms on its surface. His helmet covered his face entirely, but had the telltale mohawk like sweep of...were those blue wires? Legend couldn't tell.
Wrapped around his neck was a fur...never mind that was actually a cat. A live cat was resting on Apeiron's shoulders and appeared to be sleeping. Legend didn't quite know what to make of it. Apeiron didn't seem to have any weapons, although with tinkers that didn't mean much. It might be in a pocket dimension, or invisible, or who knows what.
He moved to intercept the tinker as the triumverate had discussed.
"Apeiron. I'm glad to see you here." Aphelion kept walking, passing the assembled parahumans as he made towards the shore.
"Yes, well, and endbringer coming to my city is definitely a good reason to show up."
"Can I ask what you have planned? We should coordinate as best we can in advance."
"Planned? Well these endbringer things aren't really very fair right?"
Legend shook his head. "Fair is not how I'd describe endbringer fights."
"Exactly. It wouldn't be fair if I fought either. That's why I brought my cat."
Legend took a minute to consider the response, mostly in confusion.
"Your cat?"
"Yes. Mr Mittens. One of the deadliest warriors on earth."
The cat had been roused by hearing his name, and was now sitting on Apeiron's left shoulder. Legend could see the black ear-ring it wore.
"...you're not going to fight the endbringer with us because it wouldn't be fair?"
"Right."
"And you brought Mr Mittens to fight in your stead?"
"Right."
They had reached the shore, dark with clouds as Leviathan approached from sea. Apeiron reached towards his belt and reality warped around his hand. The device that appeared there twisted and became...a camping chair. Apeiron spread it out and sat down, somehow also pulling out a...magazine? Legend glanced at the cover of "Capes" with a photo of a stern-faced Alexandria on the front.
"All right Mr Mittens - we're here. You've trained for this for at least an hour. You know what to do. Go take care of this for me."
Legend didn't know what to do as the cat meowed, jumped off his shoulder, and scampered towards the water and then somehow ran on top of the water.
Legend glanced back at Apeiron who seemed to be flipping through the magazine.
"Hey Legend have you seen this article about scarfs? Ms Militia does the scarf thing. You think I could pull it off?"
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Posted On Apr 28th 2011:
I just saw...It's hard to describe. Apeiron made an appearance at the endbringer battle but he brought another cape with him and sat the whole fight out. Apparently he said it wouldn't be fair if he fought.
Look I don't even know how to say this. Leviathan is confirmed dead. A ?cape? associated with Apeiron killed Leviathan. By all accounts with only single hit.
I don't...look this isn't easy to talk about, so I'm just going to post a picture of the cape that killed Leviathan.
<I CAN HAS ENDBRINGER.JPG>
►Apeiron(Verified Cape) (Verified Demi God) (Verified Bullshit)
Replied On Apr 29th 2011:
All Hail Mister Mittens, conqueror of all he surveys!
►Mr Mittens (Verified Cat) (Verified Demi God) (Verified Ender of Endbringers)
Replied On Apr 29th 2011:
Meow!
►XxVoid_CowboyxX
Replied On Apr 29th 2011:
What the actual fuck
The assembled parahumans were tense. Legend watched them joke and boast in nervous bravado as even more arrived by teleporters. He mentally reviewed the speech he had prepared. He never gave the same one twice, even though this happened every three or four months. It had to be inspiring and serious, and different enough that those who attended multiple endbringer battles didn't feel like he was giving the same speech over and over.
The volume of the assembled parahumans dropped as a new arrival walked towards the assembled heroes and villains. Apeiron was here - his armor different than the last public appearance, but Apeiron nonetheless. He stood in stylized greek armor, intricate etchings and sculptural forms on its surface. His helmet covered his face entirely, but had the telltale mohawk like sweep of...were those blue wires? Legend couldn't tell.
Wrapped around his neck was a fur...never mind that was actually a cat. A live cat was resting on Apeiron's shoulders and appeared to be sleeping. Legend didn't quite know what to make of it. Apeiron didn't seem to have any weapons, although with tinkers that didn't mean much. It might be in a pocket dimension, or invisible, or who knows what.
He moved to intercept the tinker as the triumverate had discussed.
"Apeiron. I'm glad to see you here." Aphelion kept walking, passing the assembled parahumans as he made towards the shore.
"Yes, well, and endbringer coming to my city is definitely a good reason to show up."
"Can I ask what you have planned? We should coordinate as best we can in advance."
"Planned? Well these endbringer things aren't really very fair right?"
Legend shook his head. "Fair is not how I'd describe endbringer fights."
"Exactly. It wouldn't be fair if I fought either. That's why I brought my cat."
Legend took a minute to consider the response, mostly in confusion.
"Your cat?"
"Yes. Mr Mittens. One of the deadliest warriors on earth."
The cat had been roused by hearing his name, and was now sitting on Apeiron's left shoulder. Legend could see the black ear-ring it wore.
"...you're not going to fight the endbringer with us because it wouldn't be fair?"
"Right."
"And you brought Mr Mittens to fight in your stead?"
"Right."
They had reached the shore, dark with clouds as Leviathan approached from sea. Apeiron reached towards his belt and reality warped around his hand. The device that appeared there twisted and became...a camping chair. Apeiron spread it out and sat down, somehow also pulling out a...magazine? Legend glanced at the cover of "Capes" with a photo of a stern-faced Alexandria on the front.
"All right Mr Mittens - we're here. You've trained for this for at least an hour. You know what to do. Go take care of this for me."
Legend didn't know what to do as the cat meowed, jumped off his shoulder, and scampered towards the water and then somehow ran on top of the water.
Legend glanced back at Apeiron who seemed to be flipping through the magazine.
"Hey Legend have you seen this article about scarfs? Ms Militia does the scarf thing. You think I could pull it off?"
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Bagrat (Original Poster) (Veteran Member) (The Guy in the Know)
Posted On Apr 28th 2011:
I just saw...It's hard to describe. Apeiron made an appearance at the endbringer battle but he brought another cape with him and sat the whole fight out. Apparently he said it wouldn't be fair if he fought.
Look I don't even know how to say this. Leviathan is confirmed dead. A ?cape? associated with Apeiron killed Leviathan. By all accounts with only single hit.
I don't...look this isn't easy to talk about, so I'm just going to post a picture of the cape that killed Leviathan.
<I CAN HAS ENDBRINGER.JPG>
►Apeiron(Verified Cape) (Verified Demi God) (Verified Bullshit)
Replied On Apr 29th 2011:
All Hail Mister Mittens, conqueror of all he surveys!
►Mr Mittens (Verified Cat) (Verified Demi God) (Verified Ender of Endbringers)
Replied On Apr 29th 2011:
Meow!
►XxVoid_CowboyxX
Replied On Apr 29th 2011:
What the actual fuck
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MagicalAmbitions
the rose in your vase
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If a powered human could theoretically exponentially self-replicate by breeding with chimpanzees, the PRT would pre-sign a kill-order for that.
School is the place where most people start to experiment with their fashion style, so yeah, naturally.
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