Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

Oh, terrific. That's just what I needed.

This has gone past cringe and annoying, and falls into abuse. People have been calling you out every time there's a delay for months now. It's the same things as jokes about weight or height or accents. It builds up, and hurts all the time. Some people build defenses by joking or ignoring it, but it never goes away.

Seriously it's pretty simple if you can't say something nice or constructive, don't say it.
 
This has gone past cringe and annoying, and falls into abuse. People have been calling you out every time there's a delay for months now. It's the same things as jokes about weight or height or accents. It builds up, and hurts all the time. Some people build defenses by joking or ignoring it, but it never goes away.

Seriously it's pretty simple if you can't say something nice or constructive, don't say it.
I believe exactly one third of their posts in this thread include headdesk at this point
 
Oh, terrific. That's just what I needed.
Seconded.

It is rude and you don't pay for reading this. So you have no right to complain
This has gone past cringe and annoying, and falls into abuse. People have been calling you out every time there's a delay for months now. It's the same things as jokes about weight or height or accents. It builds up, and hurts all the time. Some people build defenses by joking or ignoring it, but it never goes away.

Seriously it's pretty simple if you can't say something nice or constructive, don't say it.
I believe exactly one third of their posts in this thread include headdesk at this point

The only thing I can think of is that this fellow wants LordRoust to stop posting period, basically to kill his desire to write (and therefore BCF). They can't be that delusional that, after so many times of being told to stop it, they don't understand. I'm not the kind of person who normally ascribes those kinds of intentions to another person, but this is a bit much.

I know! Maybe he's a demon! Someone got pissed that someone has been writing to Joe and want them to stop? ;)
 
I will wait as long as I need to wait for this story. This story makes the world a better place by existing.

Work sucks, the fact that LR finds time to write this passion project on the side for us is nothing but admirable.
 
It may be a Cauldron plot, yes. But it's not one that they ran entirely willingly — they were forced into it, because otherwise the Super-Police would still have been formed, but without them having any influence over it.
me when someone in my global-sized conspiracy sees an opportunity to gain greater power and influence over the world and the conspiracy agrees to do it: i can't believe that the U.S. government is mind-controlling me to create my own super-police faction over which i have direct power and influence. why would the U.S. government do this. i can't believe that i am being forced to expand the power and influence that my conspiracy is able to wield over the inhabitants of this world, something that i would never do otherwise /s

in seriousness, the point being made in my posts is a rebuttal of the notion that the PRT/protectorate isn't a "cauldron plot" because it's Alexandria's pet project, as was stated in the post i originally responded to, here:
Remember that the Protectorate wasn't a Cauldron plan. It was a personal project that Alexandria came up with.
i am not and never have been trying to make the argument that Alexandria invented the idea of having there be super police in the setting. the post you are responding to was in itself responding to a notion that the idea of an inevitable superpowered-wing to law enforcement reduces the cauldron-plot-ness of the one that actually exists in the story. In fact, i find the framing of your post as a rebuttal or disagreement to be especially odd, because I can find nothing in your post that rebuts or disagrees with anything that I said.

to demonstrate:
well, certainly it's laughable that no one in a society that has police is going to come up with the idea of policing superpower users with other superpower users in Some fashion.
here is where i stated that i don't believe that the idea of "maybe there should be a special police for these insane superpower users running around" is a difficult or unique idea to come up with in a society that already has police.
Maybe there was some sort of pre-existing super-police structure or organization, but the only one that we actually see on-screen was pitched by a main member of cauldron to other members of cauldron and is led by said member in both civilian and hero identities.
here is where i concede the notion of a predecessor to the PRT/Protectorate structure in the setting
well, certainly it's laughable that no one in a society that has police is going to come up with the idea of policing superpower users with other superpower users in Some fashion. but it happens to be Alexandria, one of the main conspirators in Cauldron, who explicitly came up with the idea for the PRT/Protectorate structure on-screen.
here is where i state that Alexandria created the idea of the PRT/Protectorate structure as opposed to other ways that a society might structure it's law enforcement system around superpower users
So, Alexandria came up with the idea for that specific Government-backed team, but only because someone else had already come up with the idea of having a Government-backed team. She took their idea, and quickly added a lick of Cauldron-coloured paint to make it look like the preferable option.
It may be a Cauldron plot, yes. But it's not one that they ran entirely willingly — they were forced into it, because otherwise the Super-Police would still have been formed, but without them having any influence over it.
However, the reason we know this is because we also know that the Government were starting to create one. That was the entire reason that Alexandria suggested forming the Protectorate in the first place (Interlude 15.z): to undercut/preempt the Government, and ensure that members of Cauldron were embedded at key points throughout the management structure.
here are the points where you explicitly agree with my argument but frame it as disagreement, for reasons that are unknowable to me.

in fact, the part of your post that i quoted and sarcastically responded to at the beginning of your post was the only part of it with which i found myself disagreeing at all.
 
The only thing I can think of is that this fellow wants LordRoust to stop posting period, basically to kill his desire to write (and therefore BCF). They can't be that delusional that, after so many times of being told to stop it, they don't understand. I'm not the kind of person who normally ascribes those kinds of intentions to another person, but this is a bit much.

I know! Maybe he's a demon! Someone got pissed that someone has been writing to Joe and want them to stop? ;)

Wow, you're way off. And blowing it out of proportion. And, yes, the sarcasm is strong here as well.

It just got meta in a hurry, and have finally played itself out.
 
Wow, you're way off. And blowing it out of proportion. And, yes, the sarcasm is strong here as well.

It just got meta in a hurry, and have finally played itself out.

Now you're just being argumentative and deliberately offensive. You've been told you've been insulting and abusive for months, and your response is "I was just making a joke." You've tried this tactic multiple times, and then rather than trying to find a better way to joke about it, you double down on the exact same behavior. This is exact same thing the idiots on social media do, with "It's just a prank, bro." No, it's not just a joke, and multiple people find it offensive.
 
Now you're just being argumentative and deliberately offensive. You've been told you've been insulting and abusive for months, and your response is "I was just making a joke." You've tried this tactic multiple times, and then rather than trying to find a better way to joke about it, you double down on the exact same behavior. This is exact same thing the idiots on social media do, with "It's just a prank, bro." No, it's not just a joke, and multiple people find it offensive.
Furthermore even if it was a joke joking about it is also shitty. Like I'm not even going to dignify who you're replying to with actually analyzing which specific thing they said but I bet that it was.
 
Hey, random thought about Joe meeting Noelle; what if she does clone him, but it's regular-human Joe connected to King of Arms? Aka immediately post-trigger.

Even though all the changes to his genetics were theoretically retroactive, they also were clearly dormant until a specific point so her power shouldn't see them, but King of Arms knows the host it was monitoring…
 
Stop throwing tantrums.

Cause dude has a life. You write at that speed if you think its that easy.

Dude, LR posts this for free, that's just rude.

What purpose do you think this serves? Does showing disatistfaction with an author expressing burnout risk help the situation? Has Lord sent you a DM asking you to make fun of him, and his efforts to share a creative endeavor with the readers, that I'm simply unaware of? Please, be kind.

This is painfully passive-aggressive, and entirely unnecessary.

It's practically obligatory at this point.

Drains the fun right out of it, I suppose, that I gotta explain this crappy little punchline.


This is some of the responses from this year.

And the last one was the last time you used "it's just a joke"

Sometimes it felt closer to a joke depending on how you worded your comment, but a lot of the time it feels more like passive aggressive mockery, especially since that's well over half the posts you've made in this thread over the last year and a half. When you say it once or twice over several updates and there's some other comments in between it's no where near as jarring or disruptive, but only four of the last twenty comments you've made in this thread were anything other than "*HEADDESK*"
 
That reminds me, what was the Protectorate called before Hero died? Because before he died the Triumvirate and Hero as a group of four was called the Protectorate, did WB ever clear up that weird bit of lore
They were the four founding members of the Protectorate (Protectorate was founded as a government organization in 93). They split up (moved to different cities) after Hero died.
Ridtoria: Since the original group has been disbanded/killed, if you would mind bow, how did the Triumvirate+Hero (I guess just Protectorate) function as a team in the early days? Did they stick to their singular cities and occasionally team up for big events, or did they travel around the nation with Cauldron's help to promote themselves in heroics?

Wildbow: One city as HQ, traveling to sites as situations demanded. - IRC cloud conversation with Wildbow, archived on Spacebattles
Around the time that they were a group, they were simply 'the Protectorate' or 'the guys at the top'. You could say, perhaps, that the loss of Hero splintered the team. They didn't hate each other or resent each other, but it was about time, and served as the catalyst to the group each going to their own individual cities - New York, LA, & Houston. - Comment by Wildbow on Reddit
Hero's death was seen as kind of the beginning of the end for the age of heroism. Leviathan attacked the day after he died and it was awful.
 
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