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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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Tower123 said:
Yeah its weird that Aisha's tone is so stilted, given her upbringing its not unknown that she might be wise for her age to human antics, plus the disconnect to her physical age to mental age thing that is going on. That is something that just doesn't exist in the minds of humans of her reality. Your physical age is your mental age and no one thinks differently. The fact that she is idk 14-16 years old and has the mental development of someone in their early 20's? Its going to throw everyone off. Joe has thousands of years and Dr. Who levels of time ****ery going on and he is struggling to cope.
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To be precise - Aisha is 13, turning 14 somewhere in the year (wonder what the Crew would give her on birthday). And no, Aisha's mental development is not in early 20s, that would suggest she experienced living to her early 20s and then got back into 13-year-old body. Instead, she was taught stuff that no 100s year olds know, while still having life experience of 13-year-old, which doesn't make her mentally 20s year old, just extremely knowledgable 13-year-old.

She still will act mature for her age, simply becouse extreme events in her life disincentivize Aisha from acting her age, but that not really all that unusual. Missy Biron have similar characteristic, although in her case it's even worse, as she puts a lot of effort into acting above her age, unlike Aisha who does it just in response to responsibility and otherwise still acts the same as before meeting Joe. Well, not completely the same, but now days she probably acts closer to how usual pre-teen acts then she did before, which in actuality just speaks volumes about how unfitting Aisha's previous behaviour was for her age.

Also, your comment about Joe struggling to cope with experiencing thousands of years reminded me of this recent WoG:
To be honest, the memories from living as a Transformer probably drove home the idea of immortality more than any of Joe's god perks. It's one thing to wrestle with the idea of how you would live forever, but it's another thing entirely to be presented with eternity and end up using it to do entry level technical work for hundreds of thousands of years. If anything can turn a fantastic concept into something mundane, it's a stagnant career in an inflexible society.
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Tbf, Aisha did spend an entire year with a good half dozen people who:
  • Don't judge her for her background
  • Encourage her to pursue her own interests
  • Are willing to lend a hand to do something silly but fun
  • Genuinely care about her opinion
  • Gave her a galactic class education in stuff she was genuinely engaged with
  • Trust her implicitly despite her frankly incredible superpower
  • Don't want to use/exploit her for her incredible superpower
  • Insist on giving her more superpowers so that she's safe from anyone who would try it
That sort of thing would definitely give someone a sense of perspective. Maybe a different perspective than anyone else has ever had, but it definitely recontextualises petty high school bullshit, and gives her the tools to deal with the less petty high school bullshit appropriately.
This might well look like maturity and/or wisdom from the outside.
 
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Tackyseven said:
grass is greener on the other side we have traded what you mentioned for internet addiction to keep that dopamine flowing 24/7. the west is very me focused and has lost the very healthy focus on being a part of the local community around us. Way to many people have no friends and if they do it's online only.

all of this are contributing to bad mental health, and none of it was a problem 100 years ago because of different culture, focus, mindset and overall way to live. It's the positives and negatives of our time. gain material wealth medicine and countless technological conveniences. Lose the natural ways to connect face to face with people if only to survive. Today you never have to see another human being to have all your basic physical needs met. I can have an online job with 0 human contact that pays for my food/groceries delivery via drones also 0 human contact. As well as ordering what ever digital entertainment I could ever want all while never leaving my home for years. Totally possible not recommended, see 2020-2022 for proof. Humans need meaningful irl interactions with each other to be healthy, that's just fact.

but to be on topic, the star trek skills alone make me confident that Joe will uplift with wisdom, and there are probably other perks that are just as good or synergize with that for example the culture perk from...macross(?) that helps him understand cultures and stuff which Is probably helpful
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I think you vastly overestimate how social people's lives where historically. The amount of depression, alcoholism, isolation, other major mental problems people going back say 150+ years shouldn't be underestimated.

In the country it was relativity common for someone to live alone and not see or speak to another person for days or weeks, or even sometimes months at a time. If you happened to live in a small community, you either spent time with those people or kept to your self in ways we can't quite imagine. Cities offered more options, but most jobs had long hours.

No car, phones, or radio, meant isolation in ways that just doesn't happen any more.
 
Slentoru said:
To be precise - Aisha is 13, turning 14 somewhere in the yea
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Thank you for the clarification. She is written to be off balance and standing straight at the same time because how could she not be.

Mr_Rose said:
Tbf, Aisha did spend an entire year with a good half dozen people who:
  • Don't judge her for her background
  • Encourage her to pursue her own interests
  • Are willing to lend a hand to do something silly but fun
  • Genuinely care about her opinion
  • Gave her a galactic class education in stuff she was genuinely engaged with
  • Trust her implicitly despite her frankly incredible superpower
  • Don't want to use/exploit her for her incredible superpower
  • Insist on giving her more superpowers so that she's safe from anyone who would try it
That sort of thing would definitely give someone a sense of perspective. Maybe a different perspective than anyone else has ever had, but it definitely recontextualises petty high school bullshit, and gives her the tools to deal with the less petty high school bullshit appropriately.
This might well look like maturity and/or wisdom from the outside.
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I love your comment. Its amazing.
 
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This actually works out for me since I have somewhere stressful to be on Friday, I can read it tomorrow to get my mind off of it.
 
LordRoustabout said:
Short delays are becoming far more common than I would like, but unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to finish the chapter for tonight. I'm announcing a 24 hour delay, with my apologies for the short notice.
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No problem Roustabout, we'll find something to do within 24 hours. Me, I decided to read the entire story with the discussion board on sufficient velocity. I started back in January 1. Guess how far I've gone


Page 78 of 1808.

I think I'm entertained for the next few years :)
 
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Lopezelpesado said:
Why not move chapters to thursday's instead! That way 24 delays shall be no more.
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That wouldn't do it. One week is 168 hours. Which day of the week those 168 hours take place between doesn't matter if he needs a bit more than that.

If you normally get the updates on Wednesday, then all moving it to Thursday would do is mean that the delayed chapters would be showing up for you on Friday.
 
frankly, most other stories are "it updates whenever it updates" and there's rarely any extra communication of anything short of maybe a long hiatus and it doesn't bother the people who read those stories. If the author finds it helpful to his process to try his best to keep to a set schedule, that's his decision, but maybe the rest of us could stand to be more grateful about it rather than taking it for granted. He doesn't owe us anything
 
Slentoru said:
life experience of 13-year-old, which doesn't make her mentally 20s year old, just extremely knowledgeable 13-year-old.
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I think we are conflating chronological, subjective experienced time, and knowledge here. She knows things no one can know because no one knows them besides the CF who directly taught her. Her experienced time is going to color her actions even taking into context that her physical body might only be 13. Filtered through all the emotions, hormones, and just neural circuitry of a 13 year old. I do like your point that though and I think it stands.
 
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Slentoru said:
To be precise - Aisha is 13, turning 14 somewhere in the year (wonder what the Crew would give her on birthday). And no, Aisha's mental development is not in early 20s, that would suggest she experienced living to her early 20s and then got back into 13-year-old body. Instead, she was taught stuff that no 100s year olds know, while still having life experience of 13-year-old, which doesn't make her mentally 20s year old, just extremely knowledgable 13-year-old.

She still will act mature for her age, simply becouse extreme events in her life disincentivize Aisha from acting her age, but that not really all that unusual. Missy Biron have similar characteristic, although in her case it's even worse, as she puts a lot of effort into acting above her age, unlike Aisha who does it just in response to responsibility and otherwise still acts the same as before meeting Joe. Well, not completely the same, but now days she probably acts closer to how usual pre-teen acts then she did before, which in actuality just speaks volumes about how unfitting Aisha's previous behaviour was for her age.

Also, your comment about Joe struggling to cope with experiencing thousands of years reminded me of this recent WoG:
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I misread that quote as terminator instead of transformer for a second there and got REALLY CONFUSED because i was all like "but where's the time machine?"
 
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