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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)

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AmberSlime said:
Ah, yes. An ever-escalating series of events as Weld and Accord try to one-up each other. First, it is DDOS attacks and other distractions. Then it escalates to more thorough electronic warfare tactics. Then the Ambassadors try to kidnap Weld. Then the Wards, sleep-deprived, try to bury Accord alive. Eventually, proxies are brought in, and it escalates to guerilla warfare. Afterward, Brockton Bay, Boston, and all locations in between them are split between the Metal Men and the Fancy Fellowship. Everybody has since long forgotten that this was all because Weld kept getting the first post on music videos.
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And then, like a clarion call from the heavens, Apeiron crashes into the conflict. As everyone rises from the fire and flames, he walks the lonely road as Apeiron takes out his electric violin. A single strum and everyone halts in place, remembering who brought them together in the first place. Art so boundless, a music that sings through their very souls.

Boundless Music is Apeiron. This, everyone knows just from listening to his violin solo. As tears fall from everyone's eyes, flags of peace rise and doves flock in droves in the skies. The flames are cleansed, the damage restored. There is no need to have victor in this war when everybody wins. Accord and Weld come into terms. And without knowing it, Accord achieves his goal of world peace.

Except...

One soul screams in agony. Her voice rends through the harmony. For as she gazes at Boundless Music, she glares with hatred at those familiarly white gloves covering Apeiron's hands.

"I knew it! She was planning all of this!" Parian swears her vengeance then and there. "Garment Gloves, you shall soon fall!"

To be continued.
 
Akira D. said:
Actually, it would make perfect sense for the songwriter working with Garment to wear a mask. She's a supposed case 53, and she has no clear attachments (we all know the unwritten rules are more about not getting caught than anything else, really). The exception being the artist collaborating with Garment. Even just being connected with a cape is bound to give him some fame. And well, he can always just write it off as being shy, wanting privacy or as a straight up gimmick. (And seeing Pariah's reaction... fun! ♪~ ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ)
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LOL, I love the idea of Aisha wearing a mask at the auction, beautiful irony.

I'm curious about the models being imported to show off Garment's creations. How fast is Apeiron's teaching skill? Given that Apeiron and Survey will likely be acting as Garment's assistants, how much smarter, better trained, and educated will the models be after spending an evening (unknowingly) being directed and instructed by the Celestial Forge? I am suddenly imaging an o-make where a group of celebrity A-listers meet up at a party years later and start reminiscing about The Big Break they all got by being invited to participate in Brockton's charity event.
 
Spidey_phd said:
LOL, I love the idea of Aisha wearing a mask at the auction, beautiful irony.
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Considering the supposed intended character of the charity gala (less posh, more community feel) I imagine that masks will detract from that. Therefore, I imagine that though very well dressed, Garment's volunteers will all be wearing some degree of smart casual clothing.

Of course, just Aisha looking like that may be enough to shock all those that know her. After all, while Garment did improve her wardrobe, it's all still in that punk and flirty stage of her pre-Celestial Forge days. Combine smarter looks with Aisha casually handling her role as Garment expertly and I can ensure jaws will hit the floor.
 
Whamodyne said:
Known events for Tuesday April 26th 2011:

Results from the test deployment of stealth drones are evaluated
The Spirtron Computer comes online and all training, simulation, and Bakuda Deadman breaking that waited for this moment kick into gear
Meeting Uppercrust at 12:30
Therapy with Dr Campbell in the evening
Fleet and Tybalt go out for drinks at club Palanquin with Faultline's Crew
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We know more than this more groups will contact Joe, the next movie, the charity event will be further planned, Kamui Tetra will be planned, Lisa will have her check in call and Alec will also call, the drones will be deployed at 2:30 am and the Fallen London colours will probably be looked at more. Uppercrust also gave a 2 hr window he's free in for Joe to show up. Lisa will also have met with the undersiders before Alec's call.
 
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PrinceOfDoom said:
Don't get me wrong, I love Garment as a character.

I just don't know if she is even capable of having a relationship or thinking about anything but her specialization.

Which is sad for Lily.

But the reason why I ship Faultline and Apeiron? They are basically the team parents of their teams. And I keep getting a feeling that if they got into a relationship?

It'd be a Brady Bunch situation.

One day when a lady met this fella~
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Except we do know that she can think and care for things other than her specialisation, and that her and Joe do have a friendly and close relationship since she's shown personal care for Joe and other people on multiple occasions, something that goes beyond keeping him alive due to his clothing/fashion skills, materials, wardrobe, her reliance on his support for various things and it also goes beyond helping people just to show off her fashion and keeping them safe because they admire her fashion



Also, I believe that Garment probably can have romantic feelings and a relationship, though most likely not a conventional one (and only with Joe since IIRC it's took him multiple perks to get to the point of being able to understand as well as he does, one which I'm pretty sure was a big perk that gave him super-knowledge of fashion or something) and that she has a higher chance of forming romantic feeling and getting into a relationship.

Faultline, while she probably has a good impression of and will develop a good relations with him, doesn't know Joe, wont interact with him as much, only knows him as Apeiron and has no reason to try and be friends or close with his civilian identity (Not saying she can't be close with Joe the Cape, just not as much with Joe the Civilian) if she ever finds out

Garment on the other hand, assuming she can have romantic feelings, has quite a few reasons to develop them for Joe (though these don't necessarily mean she will).
 
Carrnage said:
Shame, it being a font of magicka like the Elder Scrolls Sun would be even more hilariously op.
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Dr. Dragon said:
Is that how that works? I always thought that the sun (and other stars) were not so much fonts of magicka but holes between Mundus (Tamriel's plane) and Aetherius (The plane of the Gods) which the magicka just happened to leak through. I'm sure that if Joe figures out how to turn the star into a portal to a godly plane, he can extract magic from it too.
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new headcanon... humans in tamriel are magicka addicted kryptonians. their magic weakness stops them from truly using their powers, but they still collect sunlight/magicka into their cells, allowing them to learn magic and the voice, plus chiim (or however that thing is spelled)

edit: tamriel is therefore krypton absorbed at its "destruction" ...
 
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Maelwys5 said:
new headcanon... humans in tamriel are magicka addicted kryptonians. their magic weakness stops them from truly using their powers, but they still collect sunlight/magicka into their cells, allowing them to learn magic and the voice, plus chiim (or however that thing is spelled)

edit: tamriel is therefore krypton absorbed at its "destruction" ...
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You clearly don't know enough elder scrolls lore. The average inhabitant of Tamriel is stronger than a Kryptonian already, without the need for "magic". They can make a horse ride on nothing and swim through the air, and these powers come not from "yellow sunlight" or "Kryptonian genetics " they come from the sheer divine will of the humble Tamrielan. That most among them are unaware of this power is meaningless in the face of needing but one to reach towards the past and pluck the Kryptonian from the tapestry of history.
 
LoquaciousLizard said:
You clearly don't know enough elder scrolls lore. The average inhabitant of Tamriel is stronger than a Kryptonian already, without the need for "magic". They can make a horse ride on nothing and swim through the air, and these powers come not from "yellow sunlight" or "Kryptonian genetics " they come from the sheer divine will of the humble Tamrielan. That most among them are unaware of this power is meaningless in the face of needing but one to reach towards the past and pluck the Kryptonian from the tapestry of history.
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And cheese, don't forget the way cheese overcharges and heals them.
 
Ziggrrauglurr said:
And cheese, don't forget the way cheese overcharges and heals them.
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The journal of Nord Mcpantless, hater of witches and men in tights

Today a funny man wearing red and blue tired to punch me, it shattered every bone in my body and turned my upper torso into a red smear, but thankfully I ate 16 tons of raw cheese before I was felled. And so I did strike back against him with my copper sword, a most humble weapon, and while the 6928281719948181958289 points of damage did cause great harm to him, it was being launched directly into a tangled mesh of the world bones that dispatched him to the depths of the realm of broken geometry. Praise be to the almighty toddhead, For his bounty is great.
 
Akira D. said:
*Distant asexual laughter*

*Even more distant monsterfucker laughter*
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I'm pretty sure that Garment is pseudo-aromantic as well as asexual is what I was getting at though. That wasn't clear from how I phrased it though yeah.
Graviator said:
Joe has an awful lot of abilities relevant to fighting Zion, even if they're cogs in a complex plan. Outside Context Problem and Mental Fortress are basic defenses, and Countercraft is a single use but very general one. Efficiency and Do One Thing at a Time boost everything, including Entity killing. And so on.
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The Taigu crafting is also probably a big part of that since it means that he can take bits off of a enemy to make tools for taking bigger bits off of a enemy ad infinitum.
Graviator said:
He's just gained the ability to use natural sunlight instead.
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He'd probably want to use refraction or multiple skylights or something to optimize the Workshops internal lighting as well but that's no reason to not have pillars and torus's of plasma for the aesthetic.
Avidreader/fan said:
I also have to wonder if having any of the Sparks could even drive him insane with Mental Fortress going.
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I would think that the insanity would be a part of the process so at least partially yes.
Dracovictorious said:
He briefly contemplated on whether it would count as theft to take his own violin from his parents without them knowing.

A thing I'd really like to see, even though there isn't a realistic reason for it to happen
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Have Fleet steal the entire house and have Matrix build them a replacement with everything moved slightly to the left or a shade lighter or darker or bigger or smaller or something.
Graviator said:
Mastery at more than three unrelated instruments would itself be suspicious. High musical skill takes thousands of hours of practice to develop, and hours per week to maintain, per instrument. Musicians rarely do that for a large number of instruments.

Composers who were once musicians have a signature instrument from that. Composers frequently learn piano or another keyboard instrument because it's good for experimenting with harmonies, and some of them advance to virtuosic excellence for piano as well. But it's rare to take up a third. In the other direction, a player might a second instrument and then take up composing. Mastery of three, together with composition, is practically unheard-of. For four or more, the list is basically Paul McCartney and possibly a few Baroque-era wonders.

I'm not talking about basic proficiency here. A talented individual could learn to carry a tune on dozens of instruments. But the fine details, the small flaws that would pass beneath the conscious notice of an average listener but not for a fellow musician, require more than mere proficiency to get right. And while a musician Joe's age might have started early to put that work in for a single instrument, doing so for four or more would be entirely impractical. He might be able to get away with it without being outed as a once-in-a-century talent, were he not under close scrutiny from experts. As is? He has to limit himself.

So the question I asked isn't what instruments he could use. Rather, I want to know what instruments he's actually using.
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Boundless Music should make music out of nothing but remixes of open-source material.
PrinceOfDoom said:
Don't get me wrong, I love Garment as a character.

I just don't know if she is even capable of having a relationship or thinking about anything but her specialization.

Which is sad for Lily.

But the reason why I ship Faultline and Apeiron? They are basically the team parents of their teams. And I keep getting a feeling that if they got into a relationship?

It'd be a Brady Bunch situation.

One day when a lady met this fella~
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Garment is definitely able to appreciate the lives or others and form connections; I would even go so far as to say that she can probably form something analogous to romantic bonds.
 
You know it occurs to me that Joe could presumably use his Teigu creation knowledge to take abilities belonging to animate organisms and, after making artifacts that also possess those abilities, throw them into that alchemical hexagram pot or whatever it's called that extracts enchantments from things to extract those abilities.
 
Because they carry the weight of the creature they are made from. There is only one Void Fisher after all. Conceptually it goes against their creation to be mass produced or cheated into existence.

As for Garment, 'she' (we still don't know what she identifies as, but 'she' likes female clothing to wear so..) is probably the only person on Earth Bet who understands and like being with Joe as himself. So as long as these two can be happy its all good. Still ship it though.
 
Image said:
As for Garment, 'she' (we still don't know what she identifies as, but 'she' likes female clothing to wear so..)
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You forgot this exchange in chapter 9:
Something occurred to me. "Sorry if this is rude, but are you female?"


The gloves made a gesture to where their pelvis would be, then an irreverent gesture that seemed vaguely positive.


"It doesn't matter, but sure?" I guessed at a translation.


There was an excited response and an enthusiastic gesture towards the dress, and a dismissive one to a suit hanging on the wall.


"Female because women's clothes are better?"


Again enthusiasm from them, or I guess that should be 'her', if that's what she wanted.
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Dang it, I think I just thought of a good nickname for Garment: Lady Light Fingers.

I had a thought about the relationship between Joe and Garment, but I seem to have lost it. Regardless, I don't think they're a match. They're best friends.
 
A couple of continuity issues/questions.

What happened to aura training? Wasn't it supposed to be completed tonight? Particularly, Tetra was supposed to achieve it before being made into a kamui tomorrow.

Why haven't the hardcopy manuals from the Laboratorium been run through Library Services?
 
Image said:
Because they carry the weight of the creature they are made from. There is only one Void Fisher after all. Conceptually it goes against their creation to be mass produced or cheated into existence.
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Not even that, Joe himself said that there must be DEATH involved into creation, beast MUST be slain, no way around it.
 
Utterly Depraved said:
I'm pretty sure that that would require some Shirou Emiya grade history projection skills.
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I think they mean to make use of Waste Not to emulate monster parts at a 50% chance of failure.
ExploerTM said:
Not even that, Joe himself said that there must be DEATH involved into creation, beast MUST be slain, no way around it.
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Not quite. Death is the main theme, which is why it's WoG that Lung's arm definitely could be used in the process, but there's also a note that Weld's tissue sample works, if much less effectively.
 
readerdreamer said:
Not quite. Death is the main theme, which is why it's WoG that Lung's arm definitely could be used in the process, but there's also a note that Weld's tissue sample works, if much less effectively.
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If you're talking about this one, then I am pretty sure that about research into Teigu, not making one.
Lord's WoG said:
The Endbringers are pretty much the most powerful source of materials for a Teigu, excluding Titans or entire shards. Making a Teigu has a spiritual component which it heavily tied to death (which was a major theme in Akame ga Kill). There's more to it than just using parts of a creature, at least if you want to go for a full Teigu rather than a Shingu. For that reason, Joe's going to be able to do more with Lung's remains than Weld's tissue sample, though both will help in the work towards mastering proper Teigu creation.
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ExploerTM said:
Not even that, Joe himself said that there must be DEATH involved into creation, beast MUST be slain, no way around it.
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Except for the explicit way around it that is Shingu of course.
readerdreamer said:
I think they mean to make use of Waste Not to emulate monster parts at a 50% chance of failure.
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Yes but monster parts are defined by the monster they come from and monsters are defined by their history and experiences just like the swords that Shirou Emiya projects.
readerdreamer said:
Not quite. Death is the main theme, which is why it's WoG that Lung's arm definitely could be used in the process, but there's also a note that Weld's tissue sample works, if much less effectively.
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While Lungs arm would probably be fine to make a armor or organism Teigu out of I would think that a Shingu made out of Welds sample would be best thrown into the Eight Trigrams Crucible to get the abilities out of directly.
 
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