Marked for Death: A Rational Naruto Quest
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- naruto rationalist romance armageddon is looking better and better damn you kishimoto explosions everywhere explosives solve everyone if in doubt surrender to the mercy of zabuza it seemed like a good idea at the time looks like a really bad case of being a jōnin my god. where does the lore end? precommitting is the winning plan screaming in kagome screw the rules i have explosives something bad might still happen sometimes you gotta sociopath stabby zabby subsection c of paragraph 9 should include we can weaponize this so hard open voting
So long as we develop the automatic version afterwards, that's fine.
But really the automatic version is the useful one. The only time you're going to need featherfall is if you can't use skywalkers (either because your seals are damaged, you've run out mid-flight, or you've been knocked out in combat and can't consciously trigger seals).
Cariyaga
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A step into the "directly affect kinetic force" branch of sealing is significant, though I see your point.
It has strategic utility, however, as a seal that someone of Hazou's skill could infuse, as opposed to, say, Kagome or Jiraiya's, and if we could change it to affect an area we could could potentially no-sell thrown weapons.
This kind of thing don't really play to our strength. It doesn't rely on the hivemind's existing stock of knowledge and rely more on Hazo and Kagome's in-universe theoretical knowledge.
For example, a semaphore system would really be revolutionary in warfare especially if Hazō develop the proper encoding scheme for it. It doesn't require anything complicated or special.
Meanwhile, you want your featerfall seal which required new magic.
I mean, if you're worried that it's going to be too hard for Hazou to invent, we could always ask Jiraiya to spend a couple of hours inventing it and give us research notes so we can reverse engineer it.
(He can't be that busy that he'd refuse to spare us a few hours a week, right?)
Cariyaga
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Maybe, although I'll note that his sealmaking process involves a lot of checking with other sealmasters.
Nobody making critique of winning plans?
We can look it up in a library. Follow Jiraiya's procedures to max safety.
We can look it up in a library. Follow Jiraiya's procedures to max safety.
That only works if he already knows seals that can remotely affect kinetic force. If he doesn't, a brand new branch of sealing is likely to require a new inspiration/stroke of genius even for Jiraiya.
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A feather-fall seal has two main components, detecting that you're falling and stopping the fall. Detecting that you're falling can be accomplished easily enough by having the seal check its velocity relative to the surface of the earth. If it's getting closer too fast, start feather-falling. From Macerators (and storage seals in general), we know seals can fairly simply understand coherent objects and can modify velocity directly, so it shouldn't be impossible to make a seal that directly alters our velocity, but we don't know how hard that is outside of the context of storage seals so it could easily be the next best thing to impossible. The other main option for slowing the user is some kind of impuse seal, pushing directly up on you with not enough force to splat you but enough to keep you from splatting against the ground.
There are, broadly speaking, two ways to make an impulse seal. The first is by directly sealing it that way, with one of Kagome's Shaped Charge seals at low power, but those seals are likely very difficult and also likely not something we want to spread around like candy. The other way, then, is to take a low-power explosive seal and put it in a frame that results in directional force. If the seal is fixed in a place in a box with no bottom, it will push up on the top of the box, pulling it up in the process, and the downward part of the explosion will dissipate as a shockwave beneath the box. Net force is upwards. With clever craftsmanship, the box the seal is in can probably be simplified to something that you can slip on the bottom of your shoe.
There are, broadly speaking, two ways to make an impulse seal. The first is by directly sealing it that way, with one of Kagome's Shaped Charge seals at low power, but those seals are likely very difficult and also likely not something we want to spread around like candy. The other way, then, is to take a low-power explosive seal and put it in a frame that results in directional force. If the seal is fixed in a place in a box with no bottom, it will push up on the top of the box, pulling it up in the process, and the downward part of the explosion will dissipate as a shockwave beneath the box. Net force is upwards. With clever craftsmanship, the box the seal is in can probably be simplified to something that you can slip on the bottom of your shoe.
[X] Finish the Mission with Minimal Fuss
If Minami decides to stay:
If Minami decides to stay:
- Secure the perimeter and maintain standard watch. We are still in the field with a contact to protect, even if that is in a safehouse. Don't get sloppy.
- Discuss ways to help the contact while still maintaining opsec. (Chores, trade goods, money, etc)
- Leave at the soonest opportunity.
- Continue the mission as usual.
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But I'm lazy
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- USA
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In the interest of being neither too surprising for suspension of disbelief nor too boring for interest, I will point out that all of the following are possible:
- You're about to be attacked because I'm sick of writing talking and want my gorram punching, gorram it.
- Nothing is going to happen on the mission except more gorram talking, but things are going on in the background and you need to see some of the effects so that when something happens later we don't get mountains of salt thrown at us about "well, why didn't we see X back when we were doing the courier missions?!"
- There is not, and never was, any collusion.
Some of these are much more likely than others.
This is what they did when attacking the ship, except they did it manually.
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It's because of the just complete the mission mindset. Our commander said we couldn't help them so just have to press on like good soldiers.
Cariyaga
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@faflec As part of the argument for doing something low-time-loss like having Kagome track down the chakra beasts to kill instead of the husband and son we could point out that back on the other side of the ocean she made the executive decision to stop for the night -- we could take 30 minutes to an hour to clear out the chakra beasts along the way.
Also, we should make a habit ofpackratting storing anything remotely useful. Like chakra beast parts.
Also, we should make a habit of
I just want to say, I find the following theory to be wholly credible.
Though I'm not sure why J wants everyone out of the way. Surely earning spurs fighting in battle alongside (other) Leaf forces would be the quickest way to get social acceptance.
Cariyaga
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It's a small kindness to the children of Mist.
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- Australia
I had a look at the different seals Hazou has access to in his character sheet and it is frustratingly non-specific and out of date
- 2 different storage seals - Basic Storage Seal
- 1 Explosive Seal from Kagome's Intro - Basic Explosive Note
- 2 sets of Alarm Seals that generate
light/sound respectively in reponse
to nearby chakra moulding
- Poor Man's Yellow Flash V1
- Macerator
- Basic Alarm Seal
- Variety of Hidden Mountain Seals - Tunneler's Friend
- All Kagome Seals shown so far - Party Trick Seal
- Variety of seal rewards from Jiraiya
- Unknown seals from Sarubetsu
- 2 different storage seals - Basic Storage Seal
- 1 Explosive Seal from Kagome's Intro - Basic Explosive Note
- 2 sets of Alarm Seals that generate
light/sound respectively in reponse
to nearby chakra moulding
- Poor Man's Yellow Flash V1
- Macerator
- Basic Alarm Seal
- Variety of Hidden Mountain Seals - Tunneler's Friend
- All Kagome Seals shown so far - Party Trick Seal
- Variety of seal rewards from Jiraiya
- Unknown seals from Sarubetsu
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- Somewhere over the rainbow
I imagine that's because if ANBU was cannon fodder versus the Akatsuki, there's no point in sending anyone less than ANBU level.
Sorry about dropping out of the conversation for a few days, my sleep schedule took a really weird time to flip out.
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We should make Jetpack seals very soon.
Cariyaga
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Even more Tac Move boosts!!!
Realistically, jetpack seals would be useful for dodging whereas Skywalkers are useful for disengaging.
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Actually, Sidewinder (taken from LUtD, jet pack seals all over body), would be the superior of skywalkers in tactical engagements in pretty much every way, as you get weird thrust angles and faster pursuit, which itself opens options.
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- Australia
We couldn't find binoculars and then we couldn't find a spyglass either. We might have to talk to Jiraiya about a possible conspiracy.